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    How would Islamabad United team do if participating in the IPL?

    Would they get far in the tournament? Remember, they will be playing very tough games so instead of just one game against the finalists (as we discussed before), would they have the ability to go to the top in IPL?


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    Would have reached playoffs considering all Foriegners all playing for IU


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    Don't see us ascending from 7th/6th in the near future. 5-0 in England and South Africa awaits us, we will be lucky to even draw one match.

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    Islamabad United has a pretty strong team, Sami who can hit few bats at Number 11...

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    They would have won the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    They would have won the tournament.
    That is sure. Being IPL , superstars can be selected for IU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    That is sure. Being IPL , superstars can be selected for IU.
    Not Ronchi. Heís the only guy they need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babajee View Post
    Not Ronchi. Heís the only guy they need.
    Nah. Ronchi is a mediocre cricketer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    Nah. Ronchi is a mediocre cricketer.
    He has always been a destructive batsman and now heís in the form of his life.

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    Ronchi can score against trundlers only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr7great View Post
    Ronchi can score against trundlers only.
    Perfect then. IPL is the league for him.

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    Considering the bowling standards of IPL

    all PSL teams would feast on IPL tracks and bowlings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr7great View Post
    Ronchi can score against trundlers only.
    You got that right... Ronchi has played 1 T20 against India where he remained unbeaten and scored at 200 strike rate.


    #Mein inko rolaonga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    You got that right... Ronchi has played 1 T20 against India where he remained unbeaten and scored at 200 strike rate.
    And phenomenal avg of 6 in IPL if i am not wrong.

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    United would have a good chance of winning the league. Would certainly make it to the play-offs. Considering the fact they can destroy bowlers in PSL, in IPL batting should be piece of cake for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Considering the bowling standards of IPL

    all PSL teams would feast on IPL tracks and bowlings.
    considering the batting quality of PSL, even bowlers like Siraj, Viney would look like Marshal and Ambrose.

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    there is a big day light of talent gap between IPL and PSL.

    PSL batsmen were struggling to clear 45 yrds boundaries. not even a single 200+ scores.. how are they going to match IPL teams. seriously.

    bowlers they had are sumit patel, Moh Sami, Wahab Riaz,Irfan Jr,etc.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    there is a big day light of talent gap between IPL and PSL.

    PSL batsmen were struggling to clear 45 yrds boundaries. not even a single 200+ scores.. how are they going to match IPL teams. seriously.

    bowlers they had are sumit patel, Moh Sami, Wahab Riaz,Irfan Jr,etc.,
    On these tracks McGrath would look like Bhuvi

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    Categorically Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    there is a big day light of talent gap between IPL and PSL.

    PSL batsmen were struggling to clear 45 yrds boundaries. not even a single 200+ scores.. how are they going to match IPL teams. seriously.

    bowlers they had are sumit patel, Moh Sami, Wahab Riaz,Irfan Jr,etc.,
    That is because, Dubai and Sharjah have seaming and spinning wickets, also the bowl stops before coming on to the bat. Batsmen will always struggle hitting through the line in these conditions.

    If you look at the score from IPL 7, that was jointly held in India and UAE, there was maybe one score that crossed 200 by CSK. Average scores there were closer to 140 - 150.

    In India, the IPL pitches don't support bowlers and bowl comes to the bat quite nicely.

    In PSL, as soon as the finals shifted to Lahore, and Karachi, 200+ scores started to happen, because those are like Indian pitches.

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    That is because, Dubai and Sharjah have seaming and spinning wickets, also the bowl stops before coming on to the bat. Batsmen will always struggle hitting through the line in these conditions.

    If you look at the score from IPL 7, that was jointly held in India and UAE, there was maybe one score that crossed 200 by CSK. Average scores there were closer to 140 - 150.

    In India, the IPL pitches don't support bowlers and bowl comes to the bat quite nicely.

    In PSL, as soon as the finals shifted to Lahore, and Karachi, 200+ scores started to happen, because those are like Indian pitches.

    cheers

    Nas
    I don’t remember seeing 200+ in PSL. Even against club level Windies attack, your national team barely managed to score 200. Boundary size was not even 50 yards. I don’t see any big hitters to match with IPL teams. Sorry.
    IPL bowling is as good or bad as PSL. I don’t see much difference. I am being nice here. Personally IPL bowling is better than PSL bowling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adijazz1706 View Post
    On these tracks McGrath would look like Bhuvi
    Then what will happen to Sumit Patel and Sami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    I donít remember seeing 200+ in PSL. Even against club level Windies attack, your national team barely managed to score 200. Boundary size was not even 50 yards. I donít see any big hitters to match with IPL teams. Sorry.
    IPL bowling is as good or bad as PSL. I donít see much difference. I am being nice here. Personally IPL bowling is better than PSL bowling.
    You just need to look at the stats and scores for the matches, doesn't matter what your opinion is in this case, or how nice you are.

    And Pakistan are the number 1 team in T20s, it's not just big hitters that win T20s for you, its a combination of batting, bowling and fielding. Again, doesn't matter if you are nice or not, its not your opinion that counts here, just the stats.

    Cheers

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    I think UI will reach the play offs for sure, But teams like CSK will eat them for breakfast in knockout matches. Some IPL teams are just so well seasoned, PSL is new and still evolving, so comparisons like these are gonna have to wait for another 2 - 3 years to be comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    PSL batsmen were struggling to clear 45 yrds boundaries. not even a single 200+ scores..
    1. Slow decks vs the absolute belters in the IPL

    2. Boundary sizes is a rubbish argument, I've seen 55m edges go for six in the IPL, let the ball come on to the bat off a good deck and we would see higher scoring matches.

    No disputing generally IPL batting >>>>>>>>>> PSL batting but ISB UTD can compete for sure.

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    Hypothetical question. I dont rate IU to give any competition with IPL top teams. However, it can win matches against DD or RR.

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    Maybe if IU can play for 10 years. They are still new. The best IPL teams have many tricks and ways to win. Also the boundaries are atleast 65 m in IPL. One of the best players for IU Duminy is warming the bench in IPL. The bench strength needs to strong and the teams should have multiple strategies to win IPL. Also, the coaching team is world class in every team.

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    IU has to play at his highest potential to come at 7th position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    Laughter is good for healing the soul, seems you definitely need it.
    Who is no uno is ODI and Test ?
    T20 is entertaining cricket so laughing is part of entertainment, isn it ?

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    Not sure about them reaching the playoffs, but they will surely beat RCB.

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    They will beat RCB. It will be tough for them to beat CSK and/or MI in playoffs considering Ronchi will fail in one match at least and spinners will control him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    there is a big day light of talent gap between IPL and PSL.

    PSL batsmen were struggling to clear 45 yrds boundaries. not even a single 200+ scores.. how are they going to match IPL teams. seriously.

    bowlers they had are sumit patel, Moh Sami, Wahab Riaz,Irfan Jr,etc.,
    Just like Lahore beat the Mumbai Superstars.

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    Beating CSK, Sunrisers, Mumbai and KKR is difficult.

    Any decent team (from CPL, PSL, BBL etc.) should have good chances against the likes of RR, DD, KXIP, and RCB.

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    Additionally, KXIP is a fresh improved unit and RCB is still v good on paper.

    However, RR and DD would consistently lose against top teams from other leagues.

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    They can reach Playoffs.But I'm sure they would've smashed Gujarat lions that played in IPL 2017.

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    I really think they could compete. T20 is a lottery, any team can beat any team on any day. In the CLT20, Lahore Lions (whose squad was really not that great) beat Mumbai Indians comfortably and they really pushed KKR far as well, only last the match in the last over. So IU definitely would be capable of challenging for the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgrace View Post
    Hypothetical question. I dont rate IU to give any competition with IPL top teams. However, it can win matches against DD or RR.
    AND KKR as well. But I dont see IU beating SRH & CSK on any pitch.

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    IMHO It will be like Zimbabwe team playing 91 world cup. Every IPL team will have fun against them. IPL teams would use this team as their punching bag. But they might sneak a win against one of the teams though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuzaifaE View Post
    1. Slow decks vs the absolute belters in the IPL

    2. Boundary sizes is a rubbish argument, I've seen 55m edges go for six in the IPL, let the ball come on to the bat off a good deck and we would see higher scoring matches.

    No disputing generally IPL batting >>>>>>>>>> PSL batting but ISB UTD can compete for sure.
    pitch was batting friendly towards the end of the league.. and also Pak pitches were flat and boundary size was even smaller than what we saw in UAE.

    You cant compare IPL grounds with what we saw in UAE and Pak. boundary line pulled in almost close to inner cricle.

    Wankade is the smallest IPL ground whcih has 55 Yrd boundary whereas UAE/Pak ground were at least 10 yrs smaller. go compare. . you can play cricket in the space between advertisement board and first row where people sit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    IMHO It will be like Zimbabwe team playing 91 world cup. Every IPL team will have fun against them. IPL teams would use this team as their punching bag. But they might sneak a win against one of the teams though.
    Even RR and DD? Iíve not watched any other league except IPL, but Iíd assume a half decent local team with 2-3 International stars can easily beat a T20 team led by Rahane and another whose selectors are not any smarter than a brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Even RR and DD? I’ve not watched any other league except IPL, but I’d assume a half decent local team with 2-3 International stars can easily beat a T20 team led by Rahane and another whose selectors are not any smarter than a brick.
    I watched a lot of PSL games. Like i said above, huge talent gap between the two, Especially in batting.

    Not much difference in bowling. Outside of Amir, Hasan, two newbies, everyone else was very average. IPL has lot more and lot better spinners. Wahaab and Sami looked good against those batsmen tho. But they will be thrashed by better batsmen in IPL as we have always seen in international cricket.

    Fielding was surprisingly good, not as bad as I expected.

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    Love the summer

    Quote Originally Posted by saintgrace View Post
    Who is no uno is ODI and Test ?
    T20 is entertaining cricket so laughing is part of entertainment, isn it ?
    I really liked Summer of June 2017, ah birds were chirping , sun was shining, love was in the air.

    Do you feel the laughter?

    PS: thread was about T20, & unfortunately Pakistan hasn't had the luxury of padding the stats at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    I really liked Summer of June 2017, ah birds were chirping , sun was shining, love was in the air.

    Do you feel the laughter?

    PS: thread was about T20, & unfortunately Pakistan hasn't had the luxury of padding the stats at home.
    Lol you must be the last one to talk about padding the stats. Do you want me to talk about teams Pak played in t20s to get to no1 ranking? How about the great team that visited Pak recently?

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    This is too easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    Lol you must be the last one to talk about padding the stats. Do you want me to talk about teams Pak played in t20s to get to no1 ranking? How about the great team that visited Pak recently?
    Do you mean Saffis' unbeatable record that includes winning against NZ in NZ, WI in WI, Or England Perhaps?

    PS-The last windies team was actually pretty weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuxiliA View Post
    Not sure about them reaching the playoffs, but they will surely beat RCB.
    Watching RCB actually makes me angry because I love Kohli and De Villiers. They just need to let Sarfaraz go already and work on their bowling tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    Do you mean Saffis' unbeatable record that includes winning against NZ in NZ, WI in WI, Or England Perhaps?

    PS-The last windies team was actually pretty weak.
    Yes Windies C team and also you missed the series against SL and World 11 team.

    You won only one T20 game against India ever.

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    World 11 was damn good and competitive. India had what 3 series against Sri Lanka last year, so I would t bring that up �� Kabhi kabhi bachon ke saath khelna parta hai yaar...
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    Our team has a lot of players from the number 1 T20 side in the world. We are the only PSL team who can compete in the IPL. If we had our overseas players, I would back us to get to the play offs of the IPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    World 11 was damn good and competitive. India had what 3 series against Sri Lanka last year, so I would t bring that up �� Kabhi kabhi bachon ke saath khelna parta hai yaar...
    That world 11 was an average team. They just picked players who were ready to travel to Pak. Half of the squad were sleepwalking like Windies club team visited recently. Don’t fool people here.

    About playing more at home to become no 1, go check India’s test and ODI record. We didn’t get thrashed badly like your team in Aus, SA and NZ. Won a series in Windies and SL. We were a top ranked team before our home season started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    That world 11 was an average team. They just picked players who were ready to travel to Pak. Half of the squad were sleepwalking like Windies club team visited recently. Don’t fool people here.

    About playing more at home to become no 1, go check India’s test and ODI record. We didn’t get thrashed badly like your team in Aus, SA and NZ. Won a series in Windies and SL. We were a top ranked team before our home season started.
    Didn't old man Paul Collingwood play for World XI? And Tim Paine played as wicket-keeper? It was a terrible "team".

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    Well, after the Indians have finally come out of the closet and accepted they've banned Pakistanis from taking part in IPL after years of hiding behind excuses like 'Franchises are not sure if Pakistanis will get NOC'...'Government is unsure if Pakistanis players will get visas' it's better no Pakistani team or players ever takes part in IPL. No thanks....rather play depleted Word XI all day long than deal with snakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    pitch was batting friendly towards the end of the league.. and also Pak pitches were flat and boundary size was even smaller than what we saw in UAE.

    You cant compare IPL grounds with what we saw in UAE and Pak. boundary line pulled in almost close to inner cricle.

    Wankade is the smallest IPL ground whcih has 55 Yrd boundary whereas UAE/Pak ground were at least 10 yrs smaller. go compare. . you can play cricket in the space between advertisement board and first row where people sit.
    45 yard boundaries in PSL? Where did you hear/read that...please share some proof because 45 yards is next to nothing...sounds like you pulled it out of your rear. Because the law in cricket is ""The playing area shall be a minimum of 150 yards (137.16 metres) from boundary to boundary square"

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    Islamabad team would do OK - provided they could match the IPL 8.5 million dollar salary cap.

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    In T20 any team can win.. 1 bowler or 1 person can take away the game from opposition.. IU can win matches however can they be successful over a 18 game regular season run? I don’t think they can compete on a regular basis with top IPL teams at max they will be at the middle tier and if they somehow qualify for playoffs then Ofcourse they can win it all..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    45 yard boundaries in PSL? Where did you hear/read that...please share some proof because 45 yards is next to nothing...sounds like you pulled it out of your rear. Because the law in cricket is ""The playing area shall be a minimum of 150 yards (137.16 metres) from boundary to boundary square"
    Donít take it literally. But it was way smaller than Mumbai Wankhede groun$ though. I doubt that 150 yards thing that you mentioned was followed in PSL.

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    The World XI

    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    That world 11 was an average team. They just picked players who were ready to travel to Pak. Half of the squad were sleepwalking like Windies club team visited recently. Donít fool people here.

    About playing more at home to become no 1, go check Indiaís test and ODI record. We didnít get thrashed badly like your team in Aus, SA and NZ. Won a series in Windies and SL. We were a top ranked team before our home season started.
    Tamin
    Amla
    Tim Paine
    Faf
    NLTC Parera
    Dan Miller
    Collingwood
    Cutting
    Badree
    Morkel
    Imran Tahir

    Now tell me which one of these players is a part timer.

    India is played tests in SA (lost) and will play a weakened England in summer (best chance of beating them in England), and that is it for this year, going back home after that.

    Again, your opinion doesn't matter, this is reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    Don’t take it literally. But it was way smaller than Mumbai Wankhede groun$ though. I doubt that 150 yards thing that you mentioned was followed in PSL.
    How about you quit eye balling the size of boundaries and pulling stuff out of your rear. 45 yards lol. what a joke...do you even know how big 55 yards is? Indians making absurd claims about PSL proving they know jack about it....the other day another Indian was saying Darren Ganga was a legend and high scorer in PSL 3...please don't make stuff up..we know you're desperate but really you sound stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    Tamin
    Amla
    Tim Paine
    Faf
    NLTC Parera
    Dan Miller
    Collingwood
    Cutting
    Badree
    Morkel
    Imran Tahir

    Now tell me which one of these players is a part timer.

    India is played tests in SA (lost) and will play a weakened England in summer (best chance of beating them in England), and that is it for this year, going back home after that.

    Again, your opinion doesn't matter, this is reality.
    That’s pretty average T20 team. Amla , Collingwood and Morkel don’t even play for their countries T20 team but played for world 11. Was that an exhibition game? Especially Collingwood retired long long t8me back.

    Tim Paine is in Aus test team I know. Not sure if he is in the LOI setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    Tamin
    Amla
    Tim Paine
    Faf
    NLTC Parera
    Dan Miller
    Collingwood
    Cutting
    Badree
    Morkel
    Imran Tahir

    Now tell me which one of these players is a part timer.

    India is played tests in SA (lost) and will play a weakened England in summer (best chance of beating them in England), and that is it for this year, going back home after that.

    Again, your opinion doesn't matter, this is reality.
    Who is Dan miller? Was dat Paul Collingwood from England? He was retired from cricketnaa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    considering the batting quality of PSL, even bowlers like Siraj, Viney would look like Marshal and Ambrose.
    Yes we saw what Lahore Lions did to Mumbai Indians

    Players like Jamshed and Shehzad killed Bumrah

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    I think they will be competitive, it's all about having a balanced team and once you get into some momentum you can beat any team. Their batting may look weak on paper but you just need couple of batsmen to have a good season.
    RCB for example have always had one of the best teams, but I wudnt bet on them to beat a side from Zimbabwe, same with DD. These teams just don't know to win consistently.
    Some teams like csk , kkr and MI will be tough to beat though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Yes we saw what Lahore Lions did to Mumbai Indians

    Players like Jamshed and Shehzad killed Bumrah
    You are talking about one off thing. Overall Pakistani clubs won nothing or not even in semis once. It’s more like minnows in big tournaments. Win a game against tournament favorites, talk about that victory for years. Just Ireland beating Pak team in 2007 WC or bangla beating India in the same tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    Thatís pretty average T20 team. Amla , Collingwood and Morkel donít even play for their countries T20 team but played for world 11. Was that an exhibition game? Especially Collingwood retired long long t8me back.

    Tim Paine is in Aus test team I know. Not sure if he is in the LOI setup.

    heh, i don't think you watch anything except IPL buddy.

    Questioning Amla's class is like saying who the heck is Kohli, who has dropped to # 8 in T20s btw, any guesses to who is number 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    heh, i don't think you watch anything except IPL buddy.

    Questioning Amla's class is like saying who the heck is Kohli, who has dropped to # 8 in T20s btw, any guesses to who is number 1?
    Lol. When did I question Amlaís Class? Are we talking test cricket here? You didnít want to talk about test or ODI here as we all know the reason. Because one particular team is no 1 in those two formats.

    Amla is known for his great batting in Test and ODI but when it comes to T20, he is one of the average T20 players. Again if you have different opinion, thatís fine. I have no issues. I am sure many here have similar opinion as mine.

    About current no 1 T20 batsman, classic case for a player who scored 50% of his runs against great Windies bowling line up which includes great team that recently visited pak where bowler fell asleep while bowling.

    Another 20% against this great world 11 team when they visited pak sometime last year.
    Last edited by Send1983; 18th April 2018 at 23:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    I really think they could compete. T20 is a lottery, any team can beat any team on any day. In the CLT20, Lahore Lions (whose squad was really not that great) beat Mumbai Indians comfortably and they really pushed KKR far as well, only last the match in the last over. So IU definitely would be capable of challenging for the title.
    But eventually CSK won the title and Lahore Lions did not qualify for the semis. 3 IPL teams qualified for the semis and two played in the finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    Lol. When did I question Amlaís Class? Are we talking test cricket here? You didnít want to talk about test or ODI here as we all know the reason. Because one particular team is no 1 in those two formats.

    Amla is known for his great batting in Test and ODI but when it comes to T20, he is one of the average T20 players. Again if you have different opinion, thatís fine. I have no issues. I am sure many here have similar opinion as mine.

    About current no 1 T20 batsman, classic case for a player who scored 50% of his runs against great Windies bowling line up which includes great team that recently visited pak where bowler fell asleep while bowling.

    Another 20% against this great world 11 team when they visited pak sometime last year.

    Bhayya, go check the stats for Amla, in T20s. Only reason he doesn't play is to concentrate on Tests against Australia and India. Even then he is only 30 points behind Kohli and currently number 11 on the planet.

    And Windies destroyed India and well also won the world title. Only their recent team visit to Pakistan were under par, really because they wanted to play for IPL and not get injured.

    At least make an effort bud, you talking like Trump.

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    So suddenly when Babar Bradman is the no 1 t-20 batsman and pakistan are the number one t-20 team, the t-20 rankings are the most credible rankings in the world.

    But when Kohli was the no 1 batsman and India were the no 1 team in t-20s, the same rankings were useless and had no credibility and no one cared about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani_nasir View Post
    Bhayya, go check the stats for Amla, in T20s. Only reason he doesn't play is to concentrate on Tests against Australia and India. Even then he is only 30 points behind Kohli and currently number 11 on the planet.

    And Windies destroyed India and well also won the world title. Only their recent team visit to Pakistan were under par, really because they wanted to play for IPL and not get injured.

    At least make an effort bud, you talking like Trump.
    You are giving all kind of excuse why Amla is not picked for S.A. T20 team. He is not good enough currently to make their T20 team, in fact he is not currently good enough to play ODI or Test too if you have seen his game in the last few seasons Now all in sudden ranking is Every thing. Then accept India is overall the best team in the world by big margin if you consider all format as per ranking.

    Just because they won couple of T20 games against India, they are the Top T20 team? Yes they are with all their stars. But most of the stars were not available when you played all those games against them.

    Not sure about your last line, I am being nice to you as seem to be new to cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    You are talking about one off thing. Overall Pakistani clubs won nothing or not even in semis once. It’s more like minnows in big tournaments. Win a game against tournament favorites, talk about that victory for years. Just Ireland beating Pak team in 2007 WC or bangla beating India in the same tournament.
    Are you kidding?

    Lahore lions made it to the next round almost qualified for semis with a group of TTFs

    None of the Pakistani club teams had international players and there was just one team in every edition of the CLT20

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    Almost qualified? Lol. now You are coming up with excuses that they had TTFs and not having internationals. That’s why I said they were like minnows winning one or two games. Did nothing overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    Almost qualified? Lol. now You are coming up with excuses that they had TTFs and not having internationals. That’s why I said they were like minnows winning one or two games. Did nothing overall.
    Yes they almost qualified the game between CSK and LL was washed out and between KKR and LL was very close

    If a team with no international players can beat your IPL teams imagine what would a PSL team do?

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    They would do well but losing international players to IPL teams would hurt a lot.

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    Did any pakistan team won champions league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Yes they almost qualified the game between CSK and LL was washed out and between KKR and LL was very close

    If a team with no international players can beat your IPL teams imagine what would a PSL team do?
    You didn't get it. Zimbabwe beat Australia, Ireland beat Pakistan, etc it can happen. When you say IPL team, it has best overseas players wirh very good indian players. Thats why everyone is saying they are way better than teams from other leagues.

    Overseas talent Islamabad has is nothing Ronchi, Sum it Patel,etc are international failures. Common players would choose IPL obviously. It's not a big upgrade from Lahore Lions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Send1983 View Post
    You didn't get it. Zimbabwe beat Australia, Ireland beat Pakistan, etc it can happen. When you say IPL team, it has best overseas players wirh very good indian players. Thats why everyone is saying they are way better than teams from other leagues.

    Overseas talent Islamabad has is nothing Ronchi, Sum it Patel,etc are international failures. Common players would choose IPL obviously. It's not a big upgrade from Lahore Lions.

    You clearly didn't follow PSL as you have no idea about the makeup of ISLU. It's the local talent and foreigners IPL didnt pick that carried them through. Common players such as Badree and Russell were mostly on the bench. Its on the basis of local talent that ISLU can beat any IPL team on any given day. The backbone of the team are rising stars for PCT: Farhan, Asif, Talat, Faheem and Shadab! These guys give immense depth to the batting lineup and if you plug in Ronchi, Patel and Duminy in there, that's a top 7 that is hard to beat. Forget IPL even the Indian national team will find ISLU to be very competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Well, after the Indians have finally come out of the closet and accepted they've banned Pakistanis from taking part in IPL after years of hiding behind excuses like 'Franchises are not sure if Pakistanis will get NOC'...'Government is unsure if Pakistanis players will get visas' it's better no Pakistani team or players ever takes part in IPL. No thanks....rather play depleted Word XI all day long than deal with snakes.
    why does it even matter what reasons us Indians give regarding banning Pakistani players? Its a private league and IPL decide who they want it and who they dont. Discriminatory or not it doesnt matter. IPL is not ICC event that every team has some kinda right to be part of it.

    My next door neighbour throws party every once in a while(IPL) and he invites everyone except me, discriminatory? Perhaps. Can i do something about it? Probably not.

    I go on and host my own party (PSL) albeit not as grand as his but i still do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedgreen4ever View Post
    Yes they almost qualified the game between CSK and LL was washed out and between KKR and LL was very close

    If a team with no international players can beat your IPL teams imagine what would a PSL team do?
    what happenes to Sialkot something that was qualified for CL?

    They got epic beatings and couldnt even win a single game.

    In T20s any team can beat any team. One player is enough to define the outcome. IU can defeat most IPL teams but probability is low. If Ronchi fails then IU is doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianG00se View Post
    why does it even matter what reasons us Indians give regarding banning Pakistani players? Its a private league and IPL decide who they want it and who they dont. Discriminatory or not it doesnt matter. IPL is not ICC event that every team has some kinda right to be part of it.

    My next door neighbour throws party every once in a while(IPL) and he invites everyone except me, discriminatory? Perhaps. Can i do something about it? Probably not.

    I go on and host my own party (PSL) albeit not as grand as his but i still do it.
    Lol ...good post, apt party analogy .. IPL vs PSL

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianG00se View Post
    why does it even matter what reasons us Indians give regarding banning Pakistani players? Its a private league and IPL decide who they want it and who they dont. Discriminatory or not it doesnt matter. IPL is not ICC event that every team has some kinda right to be part of it.

    My next door neighbour throws party every once in a while(IPL) and he invites everyone except me, discriminatory? Perhaps. Can i do something about it? Probably not.

    I go on and host my own party (PSL) albeit not as grand as his but i still do it.
    No one cares who you invite to the party but its pretty LAME to change your reasoning like a chameleon so you don't seem like a racist. Be who you want to be and don't be scared to be called out if you choose to discriminate. I'm not sure why it took Indians over 8 years to finally admit what they were aiming to do with this. I'd like you to pull up old threads from 2010 where all Indians were adamant that they were not discriminating. It only makes you guys look dumb as hell. We Pakistanis would have have a lot more respect if you guys weren't such sissies in admitting what you guys really are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    No one cares who you invite to the party but its pretty LAME to change your reasoning like a chameleon so you don't seem like a racist. Be who you want to be and don't be scared to be called out if you choose to discriminate. I'm not sure why it took Indians over 8 years to finally admit what they were aiming to do with this. I'd like you to pull up old threads from 2010 where all Indians were adamant that they were not discriminating. It only makes you guys look dumb as hell. We Pakistanis would have have a lot more respect if you guys weren't such sissies in admitting what you guys really are.

    I only speak for myself and what other Indian think or says makes no difference to my opinion. I do openly admit it is somewhat discriminatory in nature, but its not ILLEGAL. I gave you a reference of throwing a private party where lets assume host discriminates against certain race/nationality. Discriminatory, perhaps but its a private event and he can do whatever he wants. PCB did a good job of creating their own league rather than waiting to be accepted in IPL.

    Lastly, i honestly doubt if an avg Indian cares whether Pakistani respect us or not, I personally dont care whether i get respected or not. It makes no difference to me. So, yes you guys can please continue to disrespect us, if that helps you guys sleep at night.

    Just an honest Question, why does it even matter if Indian accepts whether its discriminatory or not? Bottom line is its still an INDIAN EVENT, taking place in Indian cities, Watched by Indians, Sponsored by Indian companies. Basically, its an Indian domestic tournament for Indian viewers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianFan2018 View Post
    Lol ...good post, apt party analogy .. IPL vs PSL
    Lol
    Im just miffed at why some fans think we need to justify why Pakistani players arent in it.

    First, they say they dont watch IPL, then create threads day in day out, then try to make it look cheap with PSL bowling >> IPL, and when all that fails, pull out Racism card.

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    Would be much better than top 4 sides like RCB etc.


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