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    Thank you Pakistan

    So the curtain has been drawn on the historic Test and such a spectacle I dont think the most optimistic of Irish fans, or pessimistic of Pakistan fans, could have imagined.

    Since the Test was announced there has been an aura of anticipation and dread in Irish cricket circles over the possibilities of this match. An anticipation that the greatest generation of Irish cricketers to ever exist will finally, after decades of toil, earn the accolade of Test cricket that is reserved for so few. The dread that the occasion will come too late for many of those players, an opportunity that only comes around once we are too weak to grasp it.

    One thing that has never been in doubt however, was the opposition. Despite the immense pain and anguish 2007 caused for Pakistan cricket, since that fateful St. Patrick's Day the fate of our two cricketing sides have been permanently intertwined. Irish cricket would not exist if not for that Pakistan victory. It granted us a Super 8 passageway, it showed the world Ireland as a side would fight to the end with pride for everything on offer and much more importantly, it taught an island, an island where cricket has a 300 year history of strife, trouble and prejudice, one that has not entirely disappeared, that it had a team of part time amateurs who were the greatest ambassadors for our proud little island that you could ever find. I owe my presence on this forum and my love for cricket purely to that day and my father coming home and saying he heard the radio report of a possible shock on the cards in that match.

    Pakistan being the right opponents for this match has never been in doubt. From that day Pakistan have been invaluable supporters of Irish cricket, three separate ODI tours, 1 famous tied ODI, 1 oh so close victory for Pakistan amongst some one sided matches but still Pakistan always returned when they easily could have snubbed us as others have. It was only fate that the team who started our journey would be the one to oppose us on the occasion when our journey, and the journey of many of the Joyces, O Briens and Porterfields, who's careers began in 2007, reached its climax. Not just for the fact of 2007, but because, although some regard it as a weakness, Pakistan have, thanks to Misbahs tenure IMO, embodied everything great about cricket for so long.

    A mercurial team who could chase 500 vs Australia or collapse chasing 100 vs Bermuda. A team who, like Ireland has in the past, thankfully before my birth, known the horrors of terrorism and the impact it has on cricket. A team who have scaled the highs and plumbed the lows. A team of fans who I feel genuinely appreciate cricket for what it is and can separate the patriotic jingoism of other nations from the beauty of sport (even if some fall into the same trap as those of its neighbouring nations). A team who, even now despite the criticism, whatever the flaws and whatever England may do in two weeks, nobody can doubt their work ethic and the passion of the team and its fans. A team of pathetic bowlers and inspiring quicks alike, a team of majestic spinners and pie chuckers, a team of glorious openers and bunnies alike. A team of honest cricketers.

    This event has been an event no Irish cricket fan or Irishman worth his salt will ever forget. From the elderly Irish Pakistani wearing a ginger beard and leprechaun cheering on his adopted home when they were facing the barrel, to the Irish fans jokingly cheering Ireland Zindabad, This Test has epitomised not just everything great about Irish and Pakistani cricket fans, but everything great about Test cricket. An event and sport that draws two nations of polar opposite cultures, values, religions, customs and the like together. A nation known for its drinking and a nation known for its spirituality. A nation known for its football and a nation known for its cricket. Both nations known for their natural beauty, friendliness and poetry. In times of division, pain and sectarianism Test cricket these past few days has highlighted how people from opposite divides and countries and cultures can unite and enjoy together, back each other on, appreciate each others achievements and more importantly, battle one another in mutual respect.

    This Test may well be the highlight of our entire Test history. Ireland faces a very tough few years ahead when the stalwarts depart. But what a highlight and what a match Pakistan, and the Irish team themselves, have managed to give the Irish public. A match of nauseating highs where a win looked possible, a match of dizzying lows where a 5 session innings loss looked inevitable, I dont expect Ireland to win many matches in any format vs any decent nation on a regular for a long long time, but what an event we were treated to these past few days. And Pakistan more than played their part.

    From showing Ireland the respect we deserved by treating it like a proper match and not a glorified warm up, from applauding Kevin on his historic, sensational innings after he walked off the field on Day 4, from grinding their teeth and making life tough for us when it looked like you could collapse and yes, even if it pains me, to snatching victory from our grasp when the Irish cricket fan was beyond ecstatic at the proceedings, Pakistan gave us here in Ireland the utmost honour that any cricket nation can bestow upon an opponent, a battling, hard fought loss. Minnow mentality you may call it, I call it proper Test cricket. No shame in defeat when the opposition simply outplay you and that, ultimately, is what Pakistan did, shaky moments or not. The ultimate honour is to force your opponent to do well and exert themselves to beat you, and that is what occurred. No shame at all.

    So thank you and congratulations to @Markhor bhai despite him vanishing when Ireland were on top . Thank you @shaz619 for appreciating all sides and aspects of cricket when bias is an easier option. Thank you @Syed1 for the banter and good humour. Thank you @hur rizvi and co for the fearful comments post Day 4 which gave me much laughter seeing Pakistan fearing little old Ireland on test debut . Thank you @Mamoon and @dr bassim for the honest opinions which I always respect as nothing is more praiseworthy than giving a hard cold opinion regardless of the majority view, and thank you Pakistan. You came over, made the dreams of 699 past Irish cricketers and countless fans and an embattled cricketing fraternity here a reality. Whatever about the general Irish public, all Irish people, now and future and past, able to appreciate the majesty of the worlds greatest sport, Test cricket, will forever hold you in a special place in our hearts for coming over, playing your part in history, and earning yourselves a deserved victory. Even seeing a side of such skill, tradition and reputation as Pakistan striving for victory against a team of, 10 years ago, postmen, farmers and fabric salesmen, was an honour. Call it minnow mentality, I call it respect and appreciation.

    I finished my last undergraduate exam today, and aye to back up the stereotype have knocked back more than a few, but this has been on my mind all week. This was a cricketing festival of which nobody here would have dreamt of 10 years ago, and it culminated in two teams of hard working cricketers embracing one another in mutual respect on a battle well fought. For the Irish cricketers who had tears in their eyes in managing a Test cap they never ever thought would arrive, to the Pakistan cricketers who were just relieved at avoiding a humiliating loss. When all was said and done, two teams, who have inflicted immense pain on their opposing fanbases over the years, came together as men, as Test cricketers, and delivered one of the more memorable Tests in recent years, ended a match as equals, as test cricketers. An accolade we have dreamt of for so long and finally achieved.

    Thank you Pakistan. This Irish fan will never forget this match, the good spirit it was fought in and the way in which it ended. As Niall O Brien said, I only dream we can repay you the favour and bring Test cricket back home for you all too. I am certain the goodwill this match was played in will go a long way to fulfilling the dream you have all had, of a home Test series, a reality. As Niall said, see you in Lahore for the rematch, should it happen.

    I'll leave this image here as a final note, a more lasting and fitting tribute to this game, and the power of Test cricket as a whole, you will never find. Thank you all, and best of luck for England. You are amazing ambassadors for the sport of cricket. Who would have ever imagined that in 2009.





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    Well done Ireland, you did put up a great show after being enforced to follow on!


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    What a post!

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    Ireland showed guts.Didn't look too fazed by the occasion

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    on behalf of Pakistan, your welcome Donald

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    Thank you, Donal, for this write up. Brought tears to my eyes. This was indeed a memorable contest, one befitting the ocassion. You cant help but feel happy for the Irish lads whove been dreaming of this moment for decades. The way they fought in this match showed us they have the character and skills to achieve great thing in test cricket if given the opportunities and backing that they deserve. They gave us a real scare and I enjoyed this match as much as any other I have.

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    Great post! Congratulations on getting the test status and putting on a tremendous show in your first ever test. Ireland played like a professional team.

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    @ OP: so that's where you were all day!

    Commentators pointed out after the match that Pakistan was probably the most important team to the survival of Test cricket. I think the theory was that, if nothing else, Pakistan will always entertain, whether you're in awe of them or laughing at them (just look at the first ball of the Ireland match). That is probably true; they are somehow the most charismatic of all teams.
    Last edited by hadi123; 16th May 2018 at 13:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Cozzie View Post
    So the curtain has been drawn on the historic Test and such a spectacle I dont think the most optimistic of Irish fans, or pessimistic of Pakistan fans, could have imagined.

    Since the Test was announced there has been an aura of anticipation and dread in Irish cricket circles over the possibilities of this match. An anticipation that the greatest generation of Irish cricketers to ever exist will finally, after decades of toil, earn the accolade of Test cricket that is reserved for so few. The dread that the occasion will come too late for many of those players, an opportunity that only comes around once we are too weak to grasp it.

    One thing that has never been in doubt however, was the opposition. Despite the immense pain and anguish 2007 caused for Pakistan cricket, since that fateful St. Patrick's Day the fate of our two cricketing sides have been permanently intertwined. Irish cricket would not exist if not for that Pakistan victory. It granted us a Super 8 passageway, it showed the world Ireland as a side would fight to the end with pride for everything on offer and much more importantly, it taught an island, an island where cricket has a 300 year history of strife, trouble and prejudice, one that has not entirely disappeared, that it had a team of part time amateurs who were the greatest ambassadors for our proud little island that you could ever find. I owe my presence on this forum and my love for cricket purely to that day and my father coming home and saying he heard the radio report of a possible shock on the cards in that match.

    Pakistan being the right opponents for this match has never been in doubt. From that day Pakistan have been invaluable supporters of Irish cricket, three separate ODI tours, 1 famous tied ODI, 1 oh so close victory for Pakistan amongst some one sided matches but still Pakistan always returned when they easily could have snubbed us as others have. It was only fate that the team who started our journey would be the one to oppose us on the occasion when our journey, and the journey of many of the Joyces, O Briens and Porterfields, who's careers began in 2007, reached its climax. Not just for the fact of 2007, but because, although some regard it as a weakness, Pakistan have, thanks to Misbahs tenure IMO, embodied everything great about cricket for so long.

    A mercurial team who could chase 500 vs Australia or collapse chasing 100 vs Bermuda. A team who, like Ireland has in the past, thankfully before my birth, known the horrors of terrorism and the impact it has on cricket. A team who have scaled the highs and plumbed the lows. A team of fans who I feel genuinely appreciate cricket for what it is and can separate the patriotic jingoism of other nations from the beauty of sport (even if some fall into the same trap as those of its neighbouring nations). A team who, even now despite the criticism, whatever the flaws and whatever England may do in two weeks, nobody can doubt their work ethic and the passion of the team and its fans. A team of pathetic bowlers and inspiring quicks alike, a team of majestic spinners and pie chuckers, a team of glorious openers and bunnies alike. A team of honest cricketers.

    This event has been an event no Irish cricket fan or Irishman worth his salt will ever forget. From the elderly Irish Pakistani wearing a ginger beard and leprechaun cheering on his adopted home when they were facing the barrel, to the Irish fans jokingly cheering Ireland Zindabad, This Test has epitomised not just everything great about Irish and Pakistani cricket fans, but everything great about Test cricket. An event and sport that draws two nations of polar opposite cultures, values, religions, customs and the like together. A nation known for its drinking and a nation known for its spirituality. A nation known for its football and a nation known for its cricket. Both nations known for their natural beauty, friendliness and poetry. In times of division, pain and sectarianism Test cricket these past few days has highlighted how people from opposite divides and countries and cultures can unite and enjoy together, back each other on, appreciate each others achievements and more importantly, battle one another in mutual respect.

    This Test may well be the highlight of our entire Test history. Ireland faces a very tough few years ahead when the stalwarts depart. But what a highlight and what a match Pakistan, and the Irish team themselves, have managed to give the Irish public. A match of nauseating highs where a win looked possible, a match of dizzying lows where a 5 session innings loss looked inevitable, I dont expect Ireland to win many matches in any format vs any decent nation on a regular for a long long time, but what an event we were treated to these past few days. And Pakistan more than played their part.

    From showing Ireland the respect we deserved by treating it like a proper match and not a glorified warm up, from applauding Kevin on his historic, sensational innings after he walked off the field on Day 4, from grinding their teeth and making life tough for us when it looked like you could collapse and yes, even if it pains me, to snatching victory from our grasp when the Irish cricket fan was beyond ecstatic at the proceedings, Pakistan gave us here in Ireland the utmost honour that any cricket nation can bestow upon an opponent, a battling, hard fought loss. Minnow mentality you may call it, I call it proper Test cricket. No shame in defeat when the opposition simply outplay you and that, ultimately, is what Pakistan did, shaky moments or not. The ultimate honour is to force your opponent to do well and exert themselves to beat you, and that is what occurred. No shame at all.

    So thank you and congratulations to @Markhor bhai despite him vanishing when Ireland were on top . Thank you @shaz619 for appreciating all sides and aspects of cricket when bias is an easier option. Thank you @Syed1 for the banter and good humour. Thank you @hur rizvi and co for the fearful comments post Day 4 which gave me much laughter seeing Pakistan fearing little old Ireland on test debut . Thank you @Mamoon and @dr bassim for the honest opinions which I always respect as nothing is more praiseworthy than giving a hard cold opinion regardless of the majority view, and thank you Pakistan. You came over, made the dreams of 699 past Irish cricketers and countless fans and an embattled cricketing fraternity here a reality. Whatever about the general Irish public, all Irish people, now and future and past, able to appreciate the majesty of the worlds greatest sport, Test cricket, will forever hold you in a special place in our hearts for coming over, playing your part in history, and earning yourselves a deserved victory. Even seeing a side of such skill, tradition and reputation as Pakistan striving for victory against a team of, 10 years ago, postmen, farmers and fabric salesmen, was an honour. Call it minnow mentality, I call it respect and appreciation.

    I finished my last undergraduate exam today, and aye to back up the stereotype have knocked back more than a few, but this has been on my mind all week. This was a cricketing festival of which nobody here would have dreamt of 10 years ago, and it culminated in two teams of hard working cricketers embracing one another in mutual respect on a battle well fought. For the Irish cricketers who had tears in their eyes in managing a Test cap they never ever thought would arrive, to the Pakistan cricketers who were just relieved at avoiding a humiliating loss. When all was said and done, two teams, who have inflicted immense pain on their opposing fanbases over the years, came together as men, as Test cricketers, and delivered one of the more memorable Tests in recent years, ended a match as equals, as test cricketers. An accolade we have dreamt of for so long and finally achieved.

    Thank you Pakistan. This Irish fan will never forget this match, the good spirit it was fought in and the way in which it ended. As Niall O Brien said, I only dream we can repay you the favour and bring Test cricket back home for you all too. I am certain the goodwill this match was played in will go a long way to fulfilling the dream you have all had, of a home Test series, a reality. As Niall said, see you in Lahore for the rematch, should it happen.

    I'll leave this image here as a final note, a more lasting and fitting tribute to this game, and the power of Test cricket as a whole, you will never find. Thank you all, and best of luck for England. You are amazing ambassadors for the sport of cricket. Who would have ever imagined that in 2009.



    Always have loved the Ireland team since 2007 WC. I sincerely hope Ireland get some regular dose of test cricket in coming years. When ever we tour UK we should play a test against the Irish. I am also very excited at prospect of seeing Afghanistan and Ireland playing test against each other.

    And last but not the least you see my fearful comments were pretty much warranted:p

    Ireland cricket zindabad
    Pakistan zindabad

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    This was quite an emotional read. Very well written. And definitely looking forward to a one off or a series of 2 test matches in Pakistan.

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    Brilliant post. Ireland was a great opposition for a debut test and hope they can become even stronger in the future.


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    This is so beautifully written. Went through all kind of emotions while reading this. Thank you so much for this beautiful piece and hopefully a rematch in Lahore/ Karachi.

    P.s: Hope your exam went well. All the best with everything mate. Please consider a career in writing, you will go a long way.

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    Thanks for putting it into perspective. Never realized cricket meant so much for the Irish.

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    An excellent write-up, but I am afraid you are giving the PCB too much credit here. They did not agree to play a Test in Ireland out of the goodness of their hearts; they are simply not spoiled for choice.

    They have to beg teams to play a solitary match in Pakistan, and as a result we tend to play less cricket than the other big teams anyway. We are not in a position to snub teams who are willing to play with us (unless they are Bangladesh).

    This occasion was all about Ireland and Pakistan does not deserve the spotlight here. A massive moment for Irish cricket, and hopefully they will be able to play 3-4 Tests per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    An excellent write-up, but I am afraid you are giving the PCB too much credit here. They did not agree to play a Test in Ireland out of the goodness of their hearts; they are simply not spoiled for choice.

    They have to beg teams to play a solitary match in Pakistan, and as a result we tend to play less cricket than the other big teams anyway. We are not in a position to snub teams who are willing to play with us (unless they are Bangladesh).

    This occasion was all about Ireland and Pakistan does not deserve the spotlight here. A massive moment for Irish cricket, and hopefully they will be able to play 3-4 Tests per year.
    You and your negativity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    You and your negativity.
    It has nothing to do with negativity or positivity. Pakistan is not in a position to throw its weight around, and with no international cricket since the fateful New Zealand tour in the winters, they were probably as keen to play this Test match as Ireland.

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    Beautiful post Donal Cozzie and thanks for the shout out.....



    I hope teams touring Ireland before visiting England becomes a regular thing.


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    Great Test. I am glad Pakistan won but what an occasion. Really happy for Ireland and they put up a good fight. Long live Test cricket!

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    Nice write-up, Donal. Also congrats on your final undergraduate exam.


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    Top post, Donal.

    Got really anxious at one point but in hindsight, I'm glad we were put on the ropes. A fitting match for a historic occasion. Hopefully Ireland tours Pakistan too sometime down the road.

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    Great effort by Ireland.I doubt any other team has competed better than Ireland in their inaugural Test Match.

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    What a post !!!! Zindabad to both Irish cricket and Pakistani cricket. Can't even imagine the emotions Irish fans are going through over their country's initiation to test cricket, the greatest game in the world of humans.

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    I want India to tour Ireland for a 3 test series in the future, we must always strive to grow our beautiful game beyond conventional boundaries.

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    POTW congrats cricket ireland

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    Good write up, despite the negativity displayed by certain doom mongers, it was a good test for Pakistan and excellent preparation for England. The Irish bowlers used the seaming conditions well, and that certainly put the Pakistan batsmen under pressure which made for what could have been a borefest into a very interesting game in the end. Good luck for the future, hopefully cricket will gain some popularity in Ireland following granting of test status.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    An excellent write-up, but I am afraid you are giving the PCB too much credit here. They did not agree to play a Test in Ireland out of the goodness of their hearts; they are simply not spoiled for choice.

    They have to beg teams to play a solitary match in Pakistan, and as a result we tend to play less cricket than the other big teams anyway. We are not in a position to snub teams who are willing to play with us (unless they are Bangladesh).

    This occasion was all about Ireland and Pakistan does not deserve the spotlight here. A massive moment for Irish cricket, and hopefully they will be able to play 3-4 Tests per year.
    Always with some negativity......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckler View Post
    I want India to tour Ireland for a 3 test series in the future, we must always strive to grow our beautiful game beyond conventional boundaries.
    @every team should play one or 2 tests before ENg series whenever they tour.

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    Pakistan is the savior of cricket.

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    Pakistan historically always helped newcomers like bangladesh Afgh etc and will do it in future .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Beautiful post Donal Cozzie and thanks for the shout out.....



    I hope teams touring Ireland before visiting England becomes a regular thing.
    I would love if they make an annual St Patricks day test tradition. I guess the weather wont be too kind in Ireland. They can probably be the first team to have this tradition while touring!


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    What does Pakistan benefit from it?

    Pakistan in that past has helped Sri lanka and Bangaldesh, yet when Paksitan had troubles in finding a country to tour them both backed off.

    Then they helped Afghanistan and we know what happened.

    Now Pakistan is helping both Ireland and Scotland(t20 series), and lets be honest, we all know what will happen in the years to come. THese boards will back off when Pakistan will need their help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    An excellent write-up, but I am afraid you are giving the PCB too much credit here. They did not agree to play a Test in Ireland out of the goodness of their hearts; they are simply not spoiled for choice.

    They have to beg teams to play a solitary match in Pakistan, and as a result we tend to play less cricket than the other big teams anyway. We are not in a position to snub teams who are willing to play with us (unless they are Bangladesh).

    This occasion was all about Ireland and Pakistan does not deserve the spotlight here. A massive moment for Irish cricket, and hopefully they will be able to play 3-4 Tests per year.
    Its actually a very negative post. For no concrete reason at that. Ireland could have been made to play against proper test minnows like Bangladesh or Zimbabwe or Westindies for that matter in their 1st test. Pakistan deserves credit for always helping minnows and newcomers. Even when they were at their peak of powers they helped Bangladesh.

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    Great post and happy for Irish Cricket, hopefully this will help develop Cricket in the country.

    @Mamoon you lack authenticity, everything you write is getting boring. Massive snooze fest! Need to lighten up bro....

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    Beautiful post.

    A great day for cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Its actually a very negative post. For no concrete reason at that. Ireland could have been made to play against proper test minnows like Bangladesh or Zimbabwe or Westindies for that matter in their 1st test. Pakistan deserves credit for always helping minnows and newcomers. Even when they were at their peak of powers they helped Bangladesh.
    and what does Pakistan get in return?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    What does Pakistan benefit from it?

    Pakistan in that past has helped Sri lanka and Bangaldesh, yet when Paksitan had troubles in finding a country to tour them both backed off.

    Then they helped Afghanistan and we know what happened.

    Now Pakistan is helping both Ireland and Scotland(t20 series), and lets be honest, we all know what will happen in the years to come. THese boards will back off when Pakistan will need their help.
    Excellently written Donal.

    Ummm I have a feeling Ireland would help providing it safe to travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhanNn View Post
    Excellently written Donal.

    Ummm I have a feeling Ireland would help providing it safe to travel
    thats what we thought when we asked Sri Lanka. No one would tour that country for terrorism aswell, but Pakistan would.

    Bangladesh cricket got alot of support at the start by Pakistan.

    Look at Afghanistan treated us recently.

    Thing is, these appreciation means nothing by them unless they come for a full tour and show their support for cricekt returning to Pakistan in future


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    Daniyal Qazi making us emotional and all that.


    it's written. an akmal will never be a hero.

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    In recent times my love for cricket has been on the decline, I've been watching Boxing and MMA more then ever and even T20's just don't do it for me. I've always loved Test Cricket but even then sometimes you just lose interest on the whole, however having followed Ireland's journey very closely beyond their players representing my local county team and being a fan of their team in general alongside WI's and Pakistan you just had to tune into their debut Test.

    I have been busy but went out of my way to follow this game and my word what a breathtaking event, one of the greatest Test matches I have ever seen. And it couldn't happen to nicer blokes, if Ireland had won the game I can honestly say as a Pak fan it wouldn't have bothered me one bit; these lads have toiled for decades giving their blood, sweat and tears for this one moment on the grandest stage of them all, believe me many could have opted to secure full time county deals or pursue international cricket in a foreign land but not everyone was greedy like Morgan; they wanted to be the FIRST GENERATION and show the world the FIGHTING SPIRIT of the IRISH ! this was about honour and the dignity of their country in their bid to secure Test status which they so richly deserve. And they could have been routed and it wouldn't have mattered given the occasion, but they proved that they belong and I wish them the best, their prowess will hopefully boost associate nations and force the ICC to think bigger and use their brains a little bit more,

    What an incredible game, it made me fall in love with cricket again; many can look at Pakistan from many angles but they are very important when it comes to the growth of Test Cricket and so is Ireland. Was reading @Donal Cozzie POTW post during me lunch break and got a bit emotional:




    Top top bloke this Donal fella, PP wouldn't be the same without you. Good luck with the exams mate and am sure we can all agree every PPer wishes Ireland cricket the best, even the ones which are great fun at party's as quoted by @Syed1


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    An excellent write-up, but I am afraid you are giving the PCB too much credit here. They did not agree to play a Test in Ireland out of the goodness of their hearts; they are simply not spoiled for choice.

    They have to beg teams to play a solitary match in Pakistan, and as a result we tend to play less cricket than the other big teams anyway. We are not in a position to snub teams who are willing to play with us (unless they are Bangladesh).

    This occasion was all about Ireland and Pakistan does not deserve the spotlight here. A massive moment for Irish cricket, and hopefully they will be able to play 3-4 Tests per year.
    Take a day off and have some shame!

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    Well put by Donal. I was big nay sayer in giving Ireland test status and it showed what it means for them. Well done to Ireland.

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    Great piece Donal and congrats on the POTW.

    To all those saying about Afghanistan and Bangladesh not treating us nicely after all we did for them. I doubt very much, Ireland would pull off the kind of stunts that those two did.

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    What an amazing post! POTW for a reason, beautifully written and tugging on the heart strings!
    Shows really how much this means to Ireland Cricket fans and yes your team did not disappoint! On Day 4, it crossed my mind that Pakistan can lose this test, which would be humiliating. At the same time I was thinking this would be a victory for the growth of test cricket and growth of cricket in Ireland. Though Pakistan won I wouldn’t have preferred if Ireland rattled through the rest of our wickets too and won this historic fixture.
    Thanks for the love Ireland, thanks for putting up a seriously good fight! Hope more tests come your way and look forward to another test against you guys (hopefully a longer series), whether it’s in Lahore or Dublin I don’t mind!

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    If two teams that are so polar opposite can play together, enjoy each other’s company, appreciate one another
    Why can’t two teams which have very few cultural differences?
    The world needs more Pak vs Ireland and Pak vs Ind

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    Congrats on POTW! I truly believe Ireland was on top for 90% of the game and had we not seen some Imam heroics we would've seen history created yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    An excellent write-up, but I am afraid you are giving the PCB too much credit here. They did not agree to play a Test in Ireland out of the goodness of their hearts; they are simply not spoiled for choice.

    They have to beg teams to play a solitary match in Pakistan, and as a result we tend to play less cricket than the other big teams anyway. We are not in a position to snub teams who are willing to play with us (unless they are Bangladesh).

    This occasion was all about Ireland and Pakistan does not deserve the spotlight here. A massive moment for Irish cricket, and hopefully they will be able to play 3-4 Tests per year.
    How about just accept the appreciation and not put a downer on everything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    What does Pakistan benefit from it?

    Pakistan in that past has helped Sri lanka and Bangaldesh, yet when Paksitan had troubles in finding a country to tour them both backed off.

    Then they helped Afghanistan and we know what happened.

    Now Pakistan is helping both Ireland and Scotland(t20 series), and lets be honest, we all know what will happen in the years to come. THese boards will back off when Pakistan will need their help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Its actually a very negative post. For no concrete reason at that. Ireland could have been made to play against proper test minnows like Bangladesh or Zimbabwe or Westindies for that matter in their 1st test. Pakistan deserves credit for always helping minnows and newcomers. Even when they were at their peak of powers they helped Bangladesh.
    We may have gone out of their way in the past to help out teams in trouble, but I don't feel like this is an occasion where we deserve a pat on our backs. We are not getting enough international matches and we did not go out of our way to play against Ireland.

    Also, the cynical in me can't help but feel that it will be only be a matter of time before PCB attempts to "pressurize" Ireland to tour Pakistan, in order to "repay the favor".

    I am not saying that what we are doing is wrong. Any team in our position would do the same, but I have hard time believing the narrative that Pakistan helped out Ireland because they want to see Irish cricket succeed, and not because they saw it as an opportunity to convince Ireland to tour Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ik92yk09sa17 View Post
    Great post and happy for Irish Cricket, hopefully this will help develop Cricket in the country.

    @Mamoon you lack authenticity, everything you write is getting boring. Massive snooze fest! Need to lighten up bro....
    I am sorry if you feel that way. I hope that in due time, my writing will improve enough to meet your desired expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I am sorry if you feel that way. I hope that in due time, my writing will improve enough to meet your desired expectations.
    I actually share the doom and gloom of Pakistan team nowadays. I started watching Pak in 2000 and it hasn't been the same since the likes of Saeed, Inzy, Moyo, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar, Saqlain. The current test side has to be the worst Pakistan side ever.

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    tbh @Mamoon is right. At no stage do I want to imply that the PCB did this out of charity, its a business at the end of the day, but whether it would have happened or not had the PCB made a loss is irrelevant since ultimately they came, played a full part and contributed to an amazing occasion. Will always be grateful for that.

    Many a sourer cricketing side would've spoiled the occasion with petty squabbles or gamesmanship. This Test was so memorable because it contained none of that.

    How often, in any sport, have you ever seen the two sides end with a joint photograph and a smile?


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    Brilliant post and wonderfully written

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    An excellent write-up, but I am afraid you are giving the PCB too much credit here. They did not agree to play a Test in Ireland out of the goodness of their hearts; they are simply not spoiled for choice.

    They have to beg teams to play a solitary match in Pakistan, and as a result we tend to play less cricket than the other big teams anyway. We are not in a position to snub teams who are willing to play with us (unless they are Bangladesh).

    This occasion was all about Ireland and Pakistan does not deserve the spotlight here. A massive moment for Irish cricket, and hopefully they will be able to play 3-4 Tests per year.
    There are other boards in much dire straits financially than PCB but you didnt see them go out of their way to arrange a Test series. WICB and Sri Lankan Board definitely fall into that category and tbh even NZ and Bangladesh can be part of that bucket.

    For PCB the more successful route financially would have been to sign up SL for yet another series which definitely would have been the more lucrative option.

    Finally. PCB has a clear history of supporting Associate nations regardless of circumstance


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    There are other boards in much dire straits financially than PCB but you didnt see them go out of their way to arrange a Test series. WICB and Sri Lankan Board definitely fall into that category and tbh even NZ and Bangladesh can be part of that bucket.

    For PCB the more successful route financially would have been to sign up SL for yet another series which definitely would have been the more lucrative option.

    Finally. PCB has a clear history of supporting Associate nations regardless of circumstance
    Good post, usually i have found myself agreeing with @Mamoon but this time he has been wrong and overly pessimistic.

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    Hopefully Ireland get more tests. Was a nice experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    We may have gone out of their way in the past to help out teams in trouble, but I don't feel like this is an occasion where we deserve a pat on our backs. We are not getting enough international matches and we did not go out of our way to play against Ireland.

    Also, the cynical in me can't help but feel that it will be only be a matter of time before PCB attempts to "pressurize" Ireland to tour Pakistan, in order to "repay the favor".

    I am not saying that what we are doing is wrong. Any team in our position would do the same, but I have hard time believing the narrative that Pakistan helped out Ireland because they want to see Irish cricket succeed, and not because they saw it as an opportunity to convince Ireland to tour Pakistan.
    So what is there to by cynical about? Perhaps you think Pakistan would be better off trying to persuade Glorious India to tour Pakistan instead?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    We may have gone out of their way in the past to help out teams in trouble, but I don't feel like this is an occasion where we deserve a pat on our backs. We are not getting enough international matches and we did not go out of our way to play against Ireland.

    Also, the cynical in me can't help but feel that it will be only be a matter of time before PCB attempts to "pressurize" Ireland to tour Pakistan, in order to "repay the favor".

    I am not saying that what we are doing is wrong. Any team in our position would do the same, but I have hard time believing the narrative that Pakistan helped out Ireland because they want to see Irish cricket succeed, and not because they saw it as an opportunity to convince Ireland to tour Pakistan.
    If the Irish fans and Irish cricket are appreciating it and telling us, then who are we to argue?


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