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    PCB unsatisfied with Chief Selector Inzamam-ul-Haq’s performance

    PCB unsatisfied with Chief Selector Inzamam’s performance

    Former Pakistan captain’s contract will only be extended if Men in Green do well at 2019 World Cup

    The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is, reportedly, unsatisfied with the performance of Chief Selector Inzamam-ul-Haq and his position could be in danger if Men in Green fail to live up to expectations, during the upcoming International Cricket Council (ICC) 2019 World Cup in England and Wales.

    According to Daily Express, Inzamam, who was appointed as chief selector in 2016, has only been able to achieve a mixed set of results during his tenure, which is a concerning factor for the PCB officials, although he deserves credit for selecting Pakistan’s triumphant ICC Champions Trophy squad in 2017.

    The former Pakistan captain has also been accused of nepotism and ignoring players who deserved a chance to don national colours.

    Inzamam also came under fire for his decision to rest core of Pakistan’s side for the recently concluded one-day international (ODI) series against Australia in United Arab Emirates — which Pakistan lost five-nil. Reports have also emerged about him ignoring captain Sarfaraz Ahmed’s advice in selection matters.

    Selecting Pakistan’s World Cup squad will be Inzamam’s final task as part of his current contract with the PCB. If Pakistan fails to do well at the at the mega event, it could signal the end to his tenure as chief selector of national side.

    Managing Director PCB Wasim Khan has also discreetly indicated that Inzamam’s contract extension will be linked to Pakistan’s performance at the World Cup. It must be noted that the former right-handed batsman is paid a hefty amount of PKR 1.2 million every month.

    Sources also stated that former Pakistan wicketkeeper-batsman Moin Khan is one of the top contenders for the chief selector spot, as one of the top PCB official is keen to see him in that role. Khan has previously worked as manager, head coach as well as chief selector of Pakistan side.

    The decision to extend contracts of current coaches, including Head Coach Mickey Arthur, will also be taken after the World Cup, which is in accordance with statement given by PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani, a little while back.

    https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/ne...ms-performance
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    Pretty disappointing if the rumours are true about moin khan is top contender. Moin khan have controversial past in pcb.it should be someone like younis khan

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    becharey ki jaan chorro.moin Khan is a good option I guess.

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    It shouldn't be a former cricketer, it should be an average Joe who is a fan of Pakistan cricket and wants them to do well. Someone who can go to the games and up to date with technology and can use his brain to come up with algorithms and such to determine how good a certain player is etc

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    Rinse and repeat. Pcbs motto.

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    Why can't Bazid khan or Mohammad Wasim?

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    I think CS job should be reviewed in every 2 years. No point to keep any corrupt failure like Inzi for 4 years.He did so much damage for our cricket. This guy didn't have any passion for cricket. All he knows to go in front of camera few times and select players from same circle of players. He never tried to discover young talents from our domestic cricket. He kept choosing many useless players both for PSL and domestic cricket.

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    The former Pakistan captain has also been accused of nepotism and ignoring players who deserved a chance to don national colours.
    Not a bad idea to sack and humiliate him now so he doesn't get any pleasure to select his favorites in the World Cup.

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    Moin khan has damaged many career during his tenure as captain and Selector, if he was selector i am 200% sure Shadab, fakhar, shaheen , fahim , babar etc would have never played uptill now you would have been seeing Ahmed shehzad , Umar akmal , nasir jamshed , Azam khan , rahat ali etc in team remember 2015 wc selector


    If moin is coming to replace him I'm praying to god please 🙏 keep inzamam for another 4 years even if it means to play imam continuously



    Having said that i would like to see modern cricketers like Saeed Ajmal , umar gul , Abdul rehman , younus khan , taufeeq umar etc as selectors
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    Quote Originally Posted by b.lesner View Post
    Moin khan has damaged many career during his tenure as captain and Selector, if he was selector i am 200% sure Shadab, fakhar, shaheen , fahim , babar etc would have never played uptill now you would have been seeing Ahmed shehzad , Umar akmal , nasir jamshed , Azam khan , rahat ali etc in team remember 2015 wc selector


    If moin is coming to replace him I'm praying to god please �� keep inzamam for another 4 years even if it means to play imam continuously



    Having said that i would like to see modern cricketers like Saeed Ajmal , umar gul , Abdul rehman , younus khan , taufeeq umar etc as selectors
    That's the fact!!!! One crook replace the other in our cricket. That's why we only won 1 World Cup with so many talent.

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    Bad news for Imam Ul Haq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Bad news for Imam Ul Haq.
    Problem is his replacement is even worse. May be a foreign selector with passion is a good idea.

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    This CS role exists only in an outdated, old fashioned & slow dying game like cricket. In current structure, CS is the most comfortable role in cricket management - a job with utmost authority but without much accountability. Cricket being an elite British game, century long tradition is keeping a high profile CS (which in olden days was often a Royalty, may be an Ox-bridge graduate, whose family owns a County or owns high stakes in British cricket/politics) - Cricket expanded through Brits in their colonies, and every such country still feels proud to keep that obsolete tradition.

    Ideally, there shouldn't be any CS, rather there should be a scouting team, whose head reports to Manager/Head Coach (In fact, in Soccer, every scout is appointed by the Manager and top global managers have their own set of scouts who travel with the Manager from club to club). The only job for the scouts is to find/suggest players from different domestic/age level cricket according to the instructions of the Manager - final call is taken by the Manager and in some clubs, there is a Director who assists the Manager to seal the deals. In soccer, there are specialist scouts by region (Latin America, Africa, East Europe .....), and specialist scouts by type (Goal Keeping, defender, mid fielder, forwards, wingers ...) - in cricket also it's possible to appoint specialist scouts for WKeeping, fast bowling, spin bowling, batting etc. and it should be 3-4 region specific appointment, covering whole country.

    In current set-up players chase the CS & his team for a little opportunity, ideally it should be other way round - the Scouts should keep chasing players across country to keep their job. I don't think, in current set-up changing personality matters much - fortunately if the Captain is as influential like Imran, Lloyd, Tony Greig, ICappel (or Kohli, Williamson, Mash... in these days) then they might force their way to whatever squad they want, otherwise this useless position of Chief Selector will do more disturbance than help, regardless of who is incumbent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shafi View Post
    Problem is his replacement is even worse. May be a foreign selector with passion is a good idea.
    Not a bad shout. He might have more common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    This CS role exists only in an outdated, old fashioned & slow dying game like cricket. In current structure, CS is the most comfortable role in cricket management - a job with utmost authority but without much accountability. Cricket being an elite British game, century long tradition is keeping a high profile CS (which in olden days was often a Royalty, may be an Ox-bridge graduate, whose family owns a County or owns high stakes in British cricket/politics) - Cricket expanded through Brits in their colonies, and every such country still feels proud to keep that obsolete tradition.

    Ideally, there shouldn't be any CS, rather there should be a scouting team, whose head reports to Manager/Head Coach (In fact, in Soccer, every scout is appointed by the Manager and top global managers have their own set of scouts who travel with the Manager from club to club). The only job for the scouts is to find/suggest players from different domestic/age level cricket according to the instructions of the Manager - final call is taken by the Manager and in some clubs, there is a Director who assists the Manager to seal the deals. In soccer, there are specialist scouts by region (Latin America, Africa, East Europe .....), and specialist scouts by type (Goal Keeping, defender, mid fielder, forwards, wingers ...) - in cricket also it's possible to appoint specialist scouts for WKeeping, fast bowling, spin bowling, batting etc. and it should be 3-4 region specific appointment, covering whole country.

    In current set-up players chase the CS & his team for a little opportunity, ideally it should be other way round - the Scouts should keep chasing players across country to keep their job. I don't think, in current set-up changing personality matters much - fortunately if the Captain is as influential like Imran, Lloyd, Tony Greig, ICappel (or Kohli, Williamson, Mash... in these days) then they might force their way to whatever squad they want, otherwise this useless position of Chief Selector will do more disturbance than help, regardless of who is incumbent.
    I wrote the exact same thing in another thread.

    Pakistan has nothing to lose - with a team stuck mid table for a decade with very little fear factor.

    But Mani won't understand this. He likes his boardroom and his powerpoints.

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    I can't remember the last time Pakistan had a dynamic and knowledgeable selector, a man who actually thought out of the box.



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    Is Azam Khan’s dad considered a favorite? PCB gambling with different options it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I can't remember the last time Pakistan had a dynamic and knowledgeable selector, a man who actually thought out of the box.
    I can't think any selector in the past who has been so biased in favor of his own family and friends when it comes to selection. Utter failure and disappointing.

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    Moin Khan? Lol, no thanks.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Moin Khan has actually a good record as chief selector in past so does Mohsin Khan. Also Inzamam is not too bad either; Arthur is the real failure

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    I doubt the PCB are unhappy with him. He's made selections which are political for 3 years and is still in the job. Maybe if we flop in the WC, he will be sacked.

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    Keep Inzy if Moin Khan is the alternative. Wonder how long it'd be before Azam Khan was picked.

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    If Moin is the alternative I would take Inzi in a heartbeat... Despite some controversial decisions, he is still given some good names in his tenure, and the lack of talent is not entirely his fault.

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    @Syed1

    You got your wish buddy

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    This witch hunt against Inzi is unfair, he has given Pakistan plenty of new players and has even selected the likes of Abid Ali, Saad Ali in the squad. It was Mickey Arthur's decision to not give those players a chance. Inzi selected spinners like Asghar, Bilal Asif but it was Mickey Arthur's decision to select just one spinner against SL in 2017.

    Inzi has given a lot of youngsters in Pakistan's domestic cricket and the PSL an opportunity. The only controversial selection was Imam ul Haq who has blown hot and cold but has done well recently. If anything Inzi has fully co-operated with Mickey Arthur and given him the players he wants.

    If anything, the PCB should be asking Mickey Arthur serious questions as well and not just aim its guns at Inzi alone just because he is not a foreigner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I can't remember the last time Pakistan had a dynamic and knowledgeable selector, a man who actually thought out of the box.
    Imran Khan was a scout, selector, player and captain. What a man he was all at the same time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    This witch hunt against Inzi is unfair, he has given Pakistan plenty of new players and has even selected the likes of Abid Ali, Saad Ali in the squad. It was Mickey Arthur's decision to not give those players a chance. Inzi selected spinners like Asghar, Bilal Asif but it was Mickey Arthur's decision to select just one spinner against SL in 2017.

    Inzi has given a lot of youngsters in Pakistan's domestic cricket and the PSL an opportunity. The only controversial selection was Imam ul Haq who has blown hot and cold but has done well recently. If anything Inzi has fully co-operated with Mickey Arthur and given him the players he wants.

    If anything, the PCB should be asking Mickey Arthur serious questions as well and not just aim its guns at Inzi alone just because he is not a foreigner.
    Good post. I am not a big fan of Inzi the selector but Arthur is a bigger culprit. In the recent series vs Aus too Inzamam picked Abid and wanted to give him chances to see how he does but Mickey kept playing Imam and Masood till Imam got sick and sidelined. Infact Imam was ready to play the 4th odi and their were no signs of Abid. And i agree with you that just because Inzamam is not a foreigner some people find all flaws in him and Sarfraz and not Mickey.
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    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    For all bad or good stuff Inzamam has done throughout his tenure, I would say we fans or the PCB will never be satisfied by any CS that does replace him. There will be flaws in everyone, and Inzi is one of them. His selection of Imam, that didn't even turned out to be bad, has taken all the shine of his all other good selections and will be replaced just like someone else if our team underperforms.

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    How about hiring a non-biased smart non-cricketer person. It is baffling to me this position goes to a former cricketer... most of them are not actually good scouts or judge of talents. Each player has their own view of whats a good talent based on their prior experience which is always subjective.

    Hire someone that's a quality scout and can actually judge a person's potential and ceiling.

    Pakistan has been on the same old re-thread for years recycling these same people in different positions when they have no right to be and look how far Pakistan has fallen in cricket over these times. Buck the trend and try something new and different. I'm sure Pakistan has no analytics department to speak of which is an area they should explore to see if there's an advantage they can find whether that's finding an advantage in your own players or finding deficiencies of oppositions.

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    Yah keep changing selectors until the whole team is full of bhanja , bhateejas and betas of selectors.

    No doubt that inzamam has failed badly which was shown in the last series when players were tested just a few months before the world cup when every other team is well settled. Pakistan should have a fixed set of players in at least last one year .


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    I really don't understand why there is a chief selector. A captain should be selecting players. Personal likes and dislikes will definitely come into play but that's the way it is. Dhoni loved Ashwin, Jadeja and got them into the team. They've done superbly well. Don't think both of them would've played much for India had it not been for Dhoni.

    Let the captain select his group of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shariqnoor View Post
    I really don't understand why there is a chief selector. A captain should be selecting players. Personal likes and dislikes will definitely come into play but that's the way it is. Dhoni loved Ashwin, Jadeja and got them into the team. They've done superbly well. Don't think both of them would've played much for India had it not been for Dhoni.

    Let the captain select his group of players.
    It only works with honest people with good work ethic. It will never work in Pakistan. Because captain from Lahore/Karachi/Hyderabad/.... will take 80% players from their region/loyal friend.

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    Inzi needs to go. but moin as a replacement is going even more backwards.

    Younger and fresher minded selectors needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amjid Javed View Post
    Inzi needs to go. but moin as a replacement is going even more backwards.

    Younger and fresher minded selectors needed.
    You should be grateful if they go to someone like Moin who played cricket in this millennium and not an old timer like Intikhab or Haroon Rashid, or that legendary Shafiq Papa who must have been member of more PCB selection committees than anyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Majid Khan View Post
    You should be grateful if they go to someone like Moin who played cricket in this millennium and not an old timer like Intikhab or Haroon Rashid, or that legendary Shafiq Papa who must have been member of more PCB selection committees than anyone.
    I thibk bazid khan can be perfect , has a lot of knowledge of domestic players and structure.


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    Looks like kicking out the TTFs and seniors has come back to haunt Inzamam (if these reports are true, which I doubt given that there are no specific complaints). Kicking out the Akmal brothers, Shehzad, Afridi, Riaz and Farhat, along with not giving in to Younis Khan's demands for the captaincy after Misbah's retirement would have made their powerful friends and family quite upset.

    However, Inzamam has set the ball rolling and given debuts to the players who deserved a chance. The TTFs are going to find it hard to make a comeback even if someone like Moin Khan replaces Inzamam.

    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    Yah keep changing selectors until the whole team is full of bhanja , bhateejas and betas of selectors.

    No doubt that inzamam has failed badly which was shown in the last series when players were tested just a few months before the world cup when every other team is well settled. Pakistan should have a fixed set of players in at least last one year .
    Wrong. Every team has/had a couple of undecided spots until recently. Pakistan were doing the same and trying to figure out who the back-up batsman and pacer should be. 13 players had already booked their place for the World Cup.


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    I think the nil in Inzi's coffin was the selection of the squad for the Aussie series.
    It doesn't take an ex professional / International player to see that Yasir Shah is not an ODI bowler....
    This was the best series to check out the youngsters and instead he went with Yasir Shah and Umar Akmal.

    He gets credit for picking other youngsters but any one of us arm chair critics would have selected the likes of Hasan Ali, Fakhar Zaman or Shadab Khan from their PSL performances. So really he shouldn't be given any special praise for that..

    We need selectors who are willing to travel around the country and search out talent by actually watching games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    This CS role exists only in an outdated, old fashioned & slow dying game like cricket. In current structure, CS is the most comfortable role in cricket management - a job with utmost authority but without much accountability. Cricket being an elite British game, century long tradition is keeping a high profile CS (which in olden days was often a Royalty, may be an Ox-bridge graduate, whose family owns a County or owns high stakes in British cricket/politics) - Cricket expanded through Brits in their colonies, and every such country still feels proud to keep that obsolete tradition.

    Ideally, there shouldn't be any CS, rather there should be a scouting team, whose head reports to Manager/Head Coach (In fact, in Soccer, every scout is appointed by the Manager and top global managers have their own set of scouts who travel with the Manager from club to club). The only job for the scouts is to find/suggest players from different domestic/age level cricket according to the instructions of the Manager - final call is taken by the Manager and in some clubs, there is a Director who assists the Manager to seal the deals. In soccer, there are specialist scouts by region (Latin America, Africa, East Europe .....), and specialist scouts by type (Goal Keeping, defender, mid fielder, forwards, wingers ...) - in cricket also it's possible to appoint specialist scouts for WKeeping, fast bowling, spin bowling, batting etc. and it should be 3-4 region specific appointment, covering whole country.

    In current set-up players chase the CS & his team for a little opportunity, ideally it should be other way round - the Scouts should keep chasing players across country to keep their job. I don't think, in current set-up changing personality matters much - fortunately if the Captain is as influential like Imran, Lloyd, Tony Greig, ICappel (or Kohli, Williamson, Mash... in these days) then they might force their way to whatever squad they want, otherwise this useless position of Chief Selector will do more disturbance than help, regardless of who is incumbent.
    Very good suggestion

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    I think the nil in Inzi's coffin was the selection of the squad for the Aussie series.
    It doesn't take an ex professional / International player to see that Yasir Shah is not an ODI bowler....
    This was the best series to check out the youngsters and instead he went with Yasir Shah and Umar Akmal.

    He gets credit for picking other youngsters but any one of us arm chair critics would have selected the likes of Hasan Ali, Fakhar Zaman or Shadab Khan from their PSL performances. So really he shouldn't be given any special praise for that..

    We need selectors who are willing to travel around the country and search out talent by actually watching games.
    Going to agree with you and @MMHS

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    Inzi's been one of our best selectors we've ever had. So much talent added to the squad who have performed right away. Look at how many newish/new players who have proven their worth, Imad, Imam, Fakhar, Imam, Abbas, Bilal Asif, Abid etc. There are so many of these guys particularly Abbas and Fakhar who would not have got a chance with previous selectors as they look "bad on the eye".

    He's selected plenty of the guys performing in domestic that posters on here have been crying for. It's not his fault if they aren't playing. And while a senior or two is there, Inzi's literally kicked out most of them.

    In addition people complaining after a player is taken to a squad then dropped the next, if Mickey doesn't want them why select them again? Find players that genuinely impress. That's being proactive rather than just sending the same 15 3 tours in a row.

    It's just typical response, we are losing because we didn't select the right squad. There are better players in Pakistan if we'd selected them we'd be best in the world etc. Rather than fault the players underperforming or the coach.

    It's very simple to assess Inzi's performance. Is he selecting the best performing guys in domestic? Generally yes he is, they just aren't being played. Is he a good eye for talent? I'd agree with this too, he's selected a few outliers with mediocre stats like Imam, Bilal and they've outperformed what people thought. And lastly do the players he selects perform well on debut/first few matches? This is a resounding success, Inzi has an excellent record here where most players upon debuting/early on are showing promise and good performances.

    What Inzi is being blamed for is the downwards trend in players performance after a year or more. Team selection. Not giving younger players in the squad chances, especially in the dead rubber matches. Poor team strategy (like not playing 2 spinners in UAE). A lack of general talent in Pakistan. Ineffectiveness of coaches. All things which have nothing to do with being a selector. He's being blamed for things that aren't his fault and criticised without logic.

    Imam being nepotism, the guy is our highest averaging batsman lol. And if Mickey didn't want him, just bench him and play someone else, Inzi's provided squads which allow for that. But it's clear Mickey wants to play him, so I'm not so sure what the issue is in terms of nepotism, Inzi's call was right. Not to mention Imam was one of Pak's best batsman in U19 anyway, after Babar and Sami, Imam's was literally the next name on the list being hyped even before selection.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    This CS role exists only in an outdated, old fashioned & slow dying game like cricket. In current structure, CS is the most comfortable role in cricket management - a job with utmost authority but without much accountability. Cricket being an elite British game, century long tradition is keeping a high profile CS (which in olden days was often a Royalty, may be an Ox-bridge graduate, whose family owns a County or owns high stakes in British cricket/politics) - Cricket expanded through Brits in their colonies, and every such country still feels proud to keep that obsolete tradition.

    Ideally, there shouldn't be any CS, rather there should be a scouting team, whose head reports to Manager/Head Coach (In fact, in Soccer, every scout is appointed by the Manager and top global managers have their own set of scouts who travel with the Manager from club to club). The only job for the scouts is to find/suggest players from different domestic/age level cricket according to the instructions of the Manager - final call is taken by the Manager and in some clubs, there is a Director who assists the Manager to seal the deals. In soccer, there are specialist scouts by region (Latin America, Africa, East Europe .....), and specialist scouts by type (Goal Keeping, defender, mid fielder, forwards, wingers ...) - in cricket also it's possible to appoint specialist scouts for WKeeping, fast bowling, spin bowling, batting etc. and it should be 3-4 region specific appointment, covering whole country.

    In current set-up players chase the CS & his team for a little opportunity, ideally it should be other way round - the Scouts should keep chasing players across country to keep their job. I don't think, in current set-up changing personality matters much - fortunately if the Captain is as influential like Imran, Lloyd, Tony Greig, ICappel (or Kohli, Williamson, Mash... in these days) then they might force their way to whatever squad they want, otherwise this useless position of Chief Selector will do more disturbance than help, regardless of who is incumbent.
    POTW for me. Very insightful

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    Mickey is as big a culprit as Inzy. Wonder, how come his performance is never scrutinized.

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    @ads101

    A brilliant post !

    Before Inzamam's appointment we had 7 chief selectors in 11 years. How could there be any continuity or consistency in selection ? Meanwhile most of these these domestic performers Inzamam has picked were ignored.

    Needs to pick better specialist spinners though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    @ads101

    A brilliant post !

    Before Inzamam's appointment we had 7 chief selectors in 11 years. How could there be any continuity or consistency in selection ? Meanwhile most of these these domestic performers Inzamam has picked were ignored.

    Needs to pick better specialist spinners though.
    That's true but under Inzi we lost our unbeaten record in the UAE and have been pathetic in Tests, it's also largely due to Mickey and Sarfraz; all three need to be sacked. Inzi also needs to go on the Keto diet ideally, Sarfraz as well come to think of it @Syed1 , I wonder who would win in a 100m sprint out of Inzi and Sarfraz ? if there is Biryani at the finishing line then am betting on Sarfraz


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    That's true but under Inzi we lost our unbeaten record in the UAE and have been pathetic in Tests, it's also largely due to Mickey and Sarfraz; all three need to be sacked. Inzi also needs to go on the Keto diet ideally, Sarfraz as well come to think of it @Syed1 , I wonder who would win in a 100m sprint out of Inzi and Sarfraz ? if there is Biryani at the finishing line then am betting on Sarfraz
    Look the Test record would be intact if Captain Fantastic scored 27 more runs in two Abu Dhabi run chases.

    However even that mighty achievement was beyond Captain Fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Look the Test record would be intact if Captain Fantastic scored 27 more runs in two Abu Dhabi run chases.

    However even that mighty achievement was beyond Captain Fantastic.
    Inzi's greatest mistake has been persisting with Sarfraz after so many monumental flops either as a captain or with the bat, that has been the biggest sifarish; why does Sarfraz enjoy so much support from the CS, are they related ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    Inzi's greatest mistake has been persisting with Sarfraz after so many monumental flops either as a captain or with the bat, that has been the biggest sifarish; why does Sarfraz enjoy so much support from the CS, are they related ?
    So who should he back as captain? Malik? Hafeez? Azhar? Or someone like Imad or Amir who isn't guranteed his place in any format? Sarfaraz is the best choice as captain and even when he isn't scoring runs, he's still the best wicket-keeper in the country and thus, can justify his spot in any XI.

    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    Inzi's been one of our best selectors we've ever had. So much talent added to the squad who have performed right away. Look at how many newish/new players who have proven their worth, Imad, Imam, Fakhar, Imam, Abbas, Bilal Asif, Abid etc. There are so many of these guys particularly Abbas and Fakhar who would not have got a chance with previous selectors as they look "bad on the eye".

    He's selected plenty of the guys performing in domestic that posters on here have been crying for. It's not his fault if they aren't playing. And while a senior or two is there, Inzi's literally kicked out most of them.

    In addition people complaining after a player is taken to a squad then dropped the next, if Mickey doesn't want them why select them again? Find players that genuinely impress. That's being proactive rather than just sending the same 15 3 tours in a row.

    It's just typical response, we are losing because we didn't select the right squad. There are better players in Pakistan if we'd selected them we'd be best in the world etc. Rather than fault the players underperforming or the coach.

    It's very simple to assess Inzi's performance. Is he selecting the best performing guys in domestic? Generally yes he is, they just aren't being played. Is he a good eye for talent? I'd agree with this too, he's selected a few outliers with mediocre stats like Imam, Bilal and they've outperformed what people thought. And lastly do the players he selects perform well on debut/first few matches? This is a resounding success, Inzi has an excellent record here where most players upon debuting/early on are showing promise and good performances.

    What Inzi is being blamed for is the downwards trend in players performance after a year or more. Team selection. Not giving younger players in the squad chances, especially in the dead rubber matches. Poor team strategy (like not playing 2 spinners in UAE). A lack of general talent in Pakistan. Ineffectiveness of coaches. All things which have nothing to do with being a selector. He's being blamed for things that aren't his fault and criticised without logic.

    Imam being nepotism, the guy is our highest averaging batsman lol. And if Mickey didn't want him, just bench him and play someone else, Inzi's provided squads which allow for that. But it's clear Mickey wants to play him, so I'm not so sure what the issue is in terms of nepotism, Inzi's call was right. Not to mention Imam was one of Pak's best batsman in U19 anyway, after Babar and Sami, Imam's was literally the next name on the list being hyped even before selection.
    Please award this POTW. A fantastic post that should clear Inzamam's name in anyone's mind, provided they are not hating for the sake of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    @ads101

    A brilliant post !

    Before Inzamam's appointment we had 7 chief selectors in 11 years. How could there be any continuity or consistency in selection ? Meanwhile most of these these domestic performers Inzamam has picked were ignored.

    Needs to pick better specialist spinners though.
    Unfortunately, apart from Shah in tests and Shadab in LOIs, Pakistan's spin stocks have been seriously depleted. There are no better spinners.


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    People seem not to like Sarfraz for reasons unrelated to cricket. Unfortunately colonial insecurities are hard to shed.

    That said, Pakistan hasn't developed good leaders or thinkers for a long time. Although Sarfraz does have decent leadership qualities he hasn't grown as a cricketer or a tactician. I would blame Mickey Arthur for that. Mickeys and provided very little help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    So who should he back as captain? Malik? Hafeez? Azhar? Or someone like Imad or Amir who isn't guranteed his place in any format? Sarfaraz is the best choice as captain and even when he isn't scoring runs, he's still the best wicket-keeper in the country and thus, can justify his spot in any XI.



    Please award this POTW. A fantastic post that should clear Inzamam's name in anyone's mind, provided they are not hating for the sake of it.
    Sarfraz can easily be replaced by Rizwan and we could have made either Babar, Fakhar or Imad as captain; may as well give them the chance when Sarfraz is going to perform a massive botch-mania in the tournament, he is going to lose his cool way to easily under pressure. Don't get me wrong he did okay in the CT but that was a short tournament and ever since he has been horrific as a batsman to and has his lapses at times with the gloves to, but I hope you are right and his position as the specialist captain brings the trophy home


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Unfortunately, apart from Shah in tests and Shadab in LOIs, Pakistan's spin stocks have been seriously depleted. There are no better spinners.
    There are guys like Zafar Gohar , Raza Hamza / Hassan (forgot his name), Mohammad Asgir, hope I spelt their names right but our spin resources have been fine however we've been ignoring them for too long and it has showed in our pathetic showings in the UAE due to both poor selection and tactics


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    My support is with Inzimam after the WC squad.

    Im surprised he has selected a very good squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    There are guys like Zafar Gohar , Raza Hamza / Hassan (forgot his name), Mohammad Asgir, hope I spelt their names right but our spin resources have been fine however we've been ignoring them for too long and it has showed in our pathetic showings in the UAE due to both poor selection and tactics
    People talk about there not being any Saeed Ajmal's waiting in the ranks to be picked...


    We didn't know Saeed Ajmal was Saeed Ajmal until he was finally picked.

    We won't know what spinners have the potential to be great if you don't select them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    People talk about there not being any Saeed Ajmal's waiting in the ranks to be picked...


    We didn't know Saeed Ajmal was Saeed Ajmal until he was finally picked.

    We won't know what spinners have the potential to be great if you don't select them.
    Saying there is no one better is like a default response when it doesn't make any sense to begin with, firstly even if we don't have any you have to give people opportunities and then you develop them further; but mA Pakistan have amazing spin resources but they haven't been picked, my friend @Chief Destroyer can also confirm this he keeps a close eye on them in Pakistan


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    My support is with Inzimam after the WC squad.

    Im surprised he has selected a very good squad.
    I second this. Can't ask for more after this squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    Saying there is no one better is like a default response when it doesn't make any sense to begin with, firstly even if we don't have any you have to give people opportunities and then you develop them further; but mA Pakistan have amazing spin resources but they haven't been picked, my friend @Chief Destroyer can also confirm this he keeps a close eye on them in Pakistan
    ofcourse, I completely agree with you.

    there not being any potential spinners in Pakistan is a preposterous thought to begin with.

    of course there are spinners, but f.f.s you have to select them first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    ofcourse, I completely agree with you.

    there not being any potential spinners in Pakistan is a preposterous thought to begin with.

    of course there are spinners, but f.f.s you have to select them first.
    Agree with you bro, for example it's like me saying oh damn! I don't have a beard! but first I need to make the decision that I want a beard, once that has been made then I have to grow it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    There are guys like Zafar Gohar , Raza Hamza / Hassan (forgot his name), Mohammad Asgir, hope I spelt their names right but our spin resources have been fine however we've been ignoring them for too long and it has showed in our pathetic showings in the UAE due to both poor selection and tactics
    Please do post Zafar Gohar and Asghar's recent numbers. The former was given a chance but failed to impress. Raza Hasan was busted for being a druggie and hasn't done much of note since then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    Agree with you bro, for example it's like me saying oh damn! I don't have a beard! but first I need to make the decision that I want a beard, once that has been made then I have to grow it.
    and Lol @ your mention of botch-a-mania... you a wrestling fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    Sarfraz can easily be replaced by Rizwan and we could have made either Babar, Fakhar or Imad as captain; may as well give them the chance when Sarfraz is going to perform a massive botch-mania in the tournament, he is going to lose his cool way to easily under pressure. Don't get me wrong he did okay in the CT but that was a short tournament and ever since he has been horrific as a batsman to and has his lapses at times with the gloves to, but I hope you are right and his position as the specialist captain brings the trophy home
    Do Babar and Fakhar have any prior experience and success with the captaincy? Imad being a guaranteed started in all nine group games would be bad for our team balance. As for Rizwan, he is a better batsman than Sarfaraz but a worse keeper. I would much like to stay away from another Kamran Akmal situation at this WC, thank you very much.


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    If replacement is Moin Khan then let Inzi stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Do Babar and Fakhar have any prior experience and success with the captaincy? Imad being a guaranteed started in all nine group games would be bad for our team balance. As for Rizwan, he is a better batsman than Sarfaraz but a worse keeper. I would much like to stay away from another Kamran Akmal situation at this WC, thank you very much.
    Sarfraz is obese and his peak is over, Rizwan is coming into his own and is the better keeper / batsman, how does Sarfraz even keep his place in the side when he cant score any runs ? is he on the level of Imran Khan, is his captaincy going to be that instrumental in WC triumph? if so he should be selected 100%


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Please do post Zafar Gohar and Asghar's recent numbers. The former was given a chance but failed to impress. Raza Hasan was busted for being a druggie and hasn't done much of note since then.
    They pass the eye test and their numbers are irrelevant, people have been picked with a lot worse but if you go by this attitude then Yasir Shah and Shadab will be close to their late 30s before we decide to use our brain and use the resources we have and develop them; the same logic kept Shah out of the team for so long even when Ajmal's chucking peak had begun to decline but his rep kept him in the team


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    Inzi is a good batting coach but he is no chief selector. I would say Pak has to at least reach the semi's for him to be retained as chief selector.


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    Doesnt matter, Pakistan cricket has always survived any personnel change.


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