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    Does India have talent waiting in the wings for the 2023 World Cup?

    In four years time, the ages of the current 11 will be:

    Rohit - 36
    Rahul - 31
    Kohli - 34
    Karthik - 38
    Pant - 25
    Pandya - 29
    Dhoni - 42
    Jadeja - 34
    Chahal - 32
    Kumar - 33
    Bumrah - 29

    Clearly a very old team. Dhoni is likely to have retired, likewise Karthik. Rohit will still be there you would imagine but it's doubtful that he can keep this sort of form up in his late thirties.

    So who is there to refresh this team?

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    Shaw, Gill and Pant. They will always be strong.

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    Those ages are not real age , you need to add 3 - 4 years to that.

    Dhoni will not be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasanali View Post
    In four years time, the ages of the current 11 will be:

    Rohit - 36
    Rahul - 31
    Kohli - 34
    Karthik - 38
    Pant - 25
    Pandya - 29
    Dhoni - 42
    Jadeja - 34
    Chahal - 32
    Kumar - 33
    Bumrah - 29

    Clearly a very old team. Dhoni is likely to have retired, likewise Karthik. Rohit will still be there you would imagine but it's doubtful that he can keep this sort of form up in his late thirties.

    So who is there to refresh this team?
    at 36 rohit will not be as good as he is, they need to looks for fresh players now.

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    will bumrah last another 4 years, rohit will not play next work cup, dhoni will retire shortly, kumar wont be playin also.

    Rebuild is due...

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    Please add Dhawan to your list.

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    Only Kohli will be there in the next World Cup. May be Bumrah too. I can't see anyone else surviving with mediocre performance for too long. Dhoni will retire now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Only Kohli will be there in the next World Cup. May be Bumrah too. I can't see anyone else surviving with mediocre performance for too long. Dhoni will retire now.
    pant should play, give him time.. hes young..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptan View Post
    Please add Dhawan to your list.
    Dhawan will be 37-38. Likely retired.

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    Incoming players are

    Gill(sure)
    Shaw(sure)
    Pant
    Agarwal
    Hanuma vihari(can bowl) maybe ?
    Ishan kishan is a middle order slogger type substitute for pant.

    Very young - abhishek sharma(18),riyan parag(17)
    Krunal pandya and washington sundar can be good spinning allrounders in 2023.
    Rahul chahar is the next good leg spinner with shreyas gopal next in the pecking order.Chahar can replace chahal if necessary.

    Mavi,saini,nagarkoti,avesh,rajpoot are fast bowling prospects.If khaleel builds muscle maybe.Good thing is saini ,rajpoot,avesh are all tall and good pace 140 plus.

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    People that will be there

    Sure -
    Kohli
    Hardik
    Bumrah
    Kuldeep
    Pant
    Rahul(hope not picked)

    Possible -
    Shami
    Bhuvi(unlikely)
    Jadeja(spinning allrounder at 7)
    Rohit
    Chahal

    NO chance for dhawan who is a reflexes player.But we have shaw and agarwal to cover that.Gill-pant and shaw are the trident of hope.

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    Honestly people rave about Pant but he kind of gives off a hack-y vibes. These sort of batsmen are good for destructive 20s and 30s that's about it.


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    By contrast, Pakistan will have a lot of players in their prime. Could the gap be about to close?

    Fakhar - 33
    Imam - 27
    Babar - 28
    Haris - 33
    Shadab - 24
    Shaheen - 23
    Hasnain - 23
    Hasan - 29
    Amir - 31

    Sarfraz won't be there. Hafeez and Malik will be in their forties so you would expect them to retire as well. Wahab will definitely not be there. The rest are all in contention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Those ages are not real age , you need to add 3 - 4 years to that.

    Dhoni will not be there
    This is not Pakistan, max 1 year and that probably applies to Dhoni only.

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    Yes. India didn't pick their best 15, and the skipper should take some of the responsibility for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Honestly people rave about Pant but he kind of gives off a hack-y vibes. These sort of batsmen are good for destructive 20s and 30s that's about it.
    He is our Umar Akmal.

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    Please refer to my thread - is this the beginning of the end of indian domination in odis!
    It downhill for india now, just like pak after the 90s!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realromeo View Post
    This is not Pakistan, max 1 year and that probably applies to Dhoni only.
    Your right it's India they should add 5-7 years

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    Talent wise no tension, plenty on the bench. The current selection committee is the problem. The best they could source for the middle order were Rayadu, Shankar, in last four years. Also, their risk aversing mentality. If these Jokers were there in late 80s, Tendu would have debuted in around 96.

    Dravid is the NCA head, so will keep churning out A-grade cricketers.

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    If they maintain their bowling standards, they will be top contenders in 4 years time too. Let's face it... this was an enormously talented team and Indian fans will rue this missed opportunity to win a 2nd WC this decade. Clearly the best team of this tournament (evidenced by topping the group table). Only England was able to defeat them prior to this knockout game.


    Have the players going forward, just need coaching&professionalism! #1 priority: fielding

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    Wow did not know Kohli was 34. Thought he was 28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirris View Post
    Wow did not know Kohli was 34. Thought he was 28.
    He will be 34 in the next WC.

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    Kohli is probably 32-33. It's unusual for a 30 year old to have white facial hair. Next World Cup he will probbaly be 36-37


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful_Rox View Post
    Kohli is probably 32-33. It's unusual for a 30 year old to have white facial hair. Next World Cup he will probbaly be 36-37
    It may be genetic. I have several relatives who are 30-35 and are starting to get white hair.

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    Nah India will carry out of form/over the hill Rohit, dhawan, Kohli in next world cup. So will lose that one as well. Talent is overused word which is just used to hide shortcomings/failures. India as a country runs on emotions so you can win tournaments but more often than not we will shoot ourselves in foot and lose.

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    I don’t think India’s problem is talent. It’s been selecting the right players and dealing with the pressure of a knockout game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Honestly people rave about Pant but he kind of gives off a hack-y vibes. These sort of batsmen are good for destructive 20s and 30s that's about it.
    That is how he plays , I do not think you can change him , that is his strength , ideally you would put him at number 6 and expect to play 30 - 40 kind of cameos.

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    Who was in Indian selection panel during 2008-2011? I remember Rohit Sharma had a long lean period from 2008-2009 and despite of several calls for Badrinath and Manoj Tiwari (I liked that guy), the selectors persisted with him and they can all reap benefits of that now. They were also professional enough to let the seniors Dravid first and then SRT/Sehwag/Gambhir to phase out from ODI team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Realromeo View Post
    This is not Pakistan, max 1 year and that probably applies to Dhoni only.
    I do not agree , its more than a year. I am not saying everyone , but there is certainly doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    Please refer to my thread - is this the beginning of the end of indian domination in odis!
    It downhill for india now, just like pak after the 90s!!
    Pakistan went downhill because of the lack of a system whereas India has a solid domestic structure and prescheduled A- tours to nurture new players. So not a great comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Pakistan went downhill because of the lack of a system whereas India has a solid domestic structure and prescheduled A- tours to nurture new players. So not a great comparison.
    It doesnt matter how many players you nurture or talent you have. Every talaneted player will not convert his talent into performances as consistently as Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan, Dhoni etc.

    No doubt talent is there but how good they will become nobody can say with certainty.

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    Lol, when it comes to telent, this is the least of India’s problems. The way their domestic set-up works now there will keep coming strong players. The guys like Pant, Shaw, Gill, Samson to mention some will be very in 4 years time. So no worries there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Realromeo View Post
    This is not Pakistan, max 1 year and that probably applies to Dhoni only.
    So you are admitting that age manipulation does take place in India, and then showing your bias by citing a smaller number? The fact, no matter how much you remain in denial, is that it used to happen on both sides pretty regularly. However, modern systems implemented after 2002 have ensured accuracy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    It doesnt matter how many players you nurture or talent you have. Every talaneted player will not convert his talent into performances as consistently as Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan, Dhoni etc.

    No doubt talent is there but how good they will become nobody can say with certainty.
    Dude, thats a generic statement which you can say for every other team, not just India. Having played Football and volleyball in India, I know the value of a proper system in sports. I can tell you one example. Till 90’s, my State Kerala was one of the football giants in India .There was time when India team had more than five Keralites. However, now North-Eastern states like Manipur and Mizoram took our place. Why? Because of meticulous planning and proper domestic leagues. We are now slowly getting back to the groove as our system is slowly getting in place.
    Now in volleyball, we and Tamilnadu simply rule Indian volleyball. Because both of us have great coaches, colleges and schools who promote volleyball, thousands of tournaments all over the different districts.
    You can thank the NCAA for America’s unbelievable run in Olympics. Similarly even Chinese have theirs. Every successful sports team has a great system behind. Without that, you wont be winning anything consistent.
    Last edited by Dingolfy; 11th July 2019 at 01:02.

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    what ever talent there may be , it is like 'a garland in the hands of a monkey' if the team management is of the calibre of the current lot . Should be able to select the ideal eleven for every condition & for every match situation..... this management has been far off w.r.t this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    I don’t think India’s problem is talent. It’s been selecting the right players and dealing with the pressure of a knockout game.
    spot on .... the nature of this game is that how ever good a team is on paper, it all boils down to how you deal with a knock out game especially 'chasing' in world cup. And this has lot more to do with subcontinental teams because it is here that cricket is given such importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasanali View Post
    By contrast, Pakistan will have a lot of players in their prime. Could the gap be about to close?

    Fakhar - 33
    Imam - 27
    Babar - 28
    Haris - 33
    Shadab - 24
    Shaheen - 23
    Hasnain - 23
    Hasan - 29
    Amir - 31

    Sarfraz won't be there. Hafeez and Malik will be in their forties so you would expect them to retire as well. Wahab will definitely not be there. The rest are all in contention.
    Add haris rauf,sharjeel khan,umer khan ,zafar gohar ,imad wasim ,Hussain talat and usman khan shinwari plus maybe Nasim Shah .This will be a gun team for the next world cup.

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    As next world cup in India, Kohli and a couple of good spinners will be enough to be in contention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satheesh View Post
    spot on .... the nature of this game is that how ever good a team is on paper, it all boils down to how you deal with a knock out game especially 'chasing' in world cup. And this has lot more to do with subcontinental teams because it is here that cricket is given such importance.
    I think the only way India can cure this mental issue by getting over the line.

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    Dhoni, jadeja and pandya in the short term need to be replaced. If or when Sharma, dhawan, shami and a couple others lose form, there also needs to be a replacement.

    India need to dig deep and find these guys.


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    Prithvi Shaw and Shubman Gill should be fast-tracked into the ODI team immediately. 4 years is enough time to develop them. There's also left-handed keeper-batsman Ishan Kishan who could be groomed as a No. 4/5 batsman. Navdeep Saini and Prasidh Krishna should get chances very soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farazaidi View Post
    I remember Rohit Sharma had a long lean period from 2008-2009 and despite of several calls for Badrinath and Manoj Tiwari (I liked that guy), the selectors persisted with him and they can all reap benefits of that now.
    Rohit Sharma was persisted with because of his performances in domestic and IPL. Everyone could see he had big potential, just that he wasn't able to convert them into performances at the international level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Dude, thats a generic statement which you can say for every other team, not just India. Having played Football and volleyball in India, I know the value of a proper system in sports. I can tell you one example. Till 90’s, my State Kerala was one of the football giants in India .There was time when India team had more than five Keralites. However, now North-Eastern states like Manipur and Mizoram took our place. Why? Because of meticulous planning and proper domestic leagues. We are now slowly getting back to the groove as our system is slowly getting in place.
    Now in volleyball, we and Tamilnadu simply rule Indian volleyball. Because both of us have great coaches, colleges and schools who promote volleyball, thousands of tournaments all over the different districts.
    You can thank the NCAA for America’s unbelievable run in Olympics. Similarly even Chinese have theirs. Every successful sports team has a great system behind. Without that, you wont be winning anything consistent.
    Yes this statement can be applied to any team or any sport. Also there is no denying Indian structure has improved a lot.

    At the same time the point stands that nobody can say with certainty whether Shaw, Gill, Pant etc can replicate the greatness of Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Dhoni etc. Same thing applies to other teams as well and some teams become better than before with those upcoming players while some teams struggle to find the similar greatness in new blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamM97 View Post
    It may be genetic. I have several relatives who are 30-35 and are starting to get white hair.
    I know teenagers who have gray hairs.

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    Rohit will be there and there is an outside chance of Dhawan as well.

    Indian players don't retire as long as fans start talking about this regularly.

    Shaw(opener), Gill(no.4)and Pant(no.5/6 & wkt-keeping) are the newbies who should be grown up in the next four years.

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    how is ic porel, the medium pacer?

    siraj is also a bright prospect, despite being hammered in ipl. there are other 25 year olds like gurbani who have been impressive statistically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    At the same time the point stands that nobody can say with certainty whether Shaw, Gill, Pant etc can replicate the greatness of Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Dhoni etc.
    To be fair, people thought the same when Gambhir, Sehwag were past it in 2012 and Tendulkar retired. And then Champions Trophy 2013 happened and today we talk of Dhawan, Sharma and Kohli as these ODI beasts.

    There's no science to producing world-class talent. You pick the best performers at the domestic level, put them in an environment where they'll be challenged to their limits, thrust them into the international scene and hope they have the drive, hunger and determination to keep improving and succeed at it. The problem the past year or two is that India backed the wrong people. From Ambati Rayudu to Ajinkya Rahane to Dinesh Karthik. Two of them didn't make the World Cup squad and the third probably won't make the ODI team again.

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    Shaw and Gill looked good. International Cricket is a different animal though as we have seen many do not succeed that that level.


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    Next WC is in India. There they will be fine. Only way they can win a WC.

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    This might be our team for the next world cup

    Rohit/another opener if Rohit lose form badly
    Shah
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    one more batsmen/alrounder
    Pandya
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    Chahal/kuldeep/another spinner
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    Another pace bowler

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    India is a powerhouse and they will never be short of talent. They need better selectors who are more ruthless in phasing out players who are past their prime. I think it is time to take some tough calls especially on players like Dhawan. A phenomenal player, but he will be 37 in 2023 and it is time for someone like Shaw to have a decent opportunity to prove his worth in ODIs.

    Similarly, the likes of Gill etc. should be drafted into the middle-order as well. India paid a price for not addressing their middle-order problems in the last two years but they shouldn't repeat the same mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    India is a powerhouse and they will never be short of talent. They need better selectors who are more ruthless in phasing out players who are past their prime. I think it is time to take some tough calls especially on players like Dhawan. A phenomenal player, but he will be 37 in 2023 and it is time for someone like Shaw to have a decent opportunity to prove his worth in ODIs.

    Similarly, the likes of Gill etc. should be drafted into the middle-order as well. India paid a price for not addressing their middle-order problems in the last two years but they shouldn't repeat the same mistakes.
    You magically disappeared when your team was getting a mega phainta of their lives. Did they had an off day?

    Baring ftb Sharma and Kohli, they have nothing to show for their ‘powerhouse’.

    Is that the same Gill who failed miserably against NZ in an ODI series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    You magically disappeared when your team was getting a mega phainta of their lives. Did they had an off day?

    Baring ftb Sharma and Kohli, they have nothing to show for their ‘powerhouse’.

    Is that the same Gill who failed miserably against NZ in an ODI series?
    I am having troubles with my account. It has been hacked, you can confirm with the mods. I wanted to but couldn't log in.

    Gill is an illustrious talent and your myopic point of view, based on one series, means nothing. Give him a good run and watch him fly. He is an Indian great in the making and potentially equal to the likes of Kohli and Rohit. Shaw and Gill are the next big Indian batsmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I am having troubles with my account. It has been hacked, you can confirm with the mods. I wanted to but couldn't log in.

    Gill is an illustrious talent and your myopic point of view, based on one series, means nothing. Give him a good run and watch him fly. He is an Indian great in the making and potentially equal to the likes of Kohli and Rohit. Shaw and Gill are the next big Indian batsmen.
    Wow, what a team it will be, with the GOAT, Rohit, two upcoming GOAT, Pandya already in the Botham category. Better not play the world cup and give them the trophy?

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    Can an Indian fan please explain to me why hacks like Rayudu, Rahul, Shankar, etc. have been batting at 4/5 for India?

    While they have some very good young batsmen like Shaw, Pandey, Iyer, Kishan, etc. sitting on the bench.

    I can understand how TTFs like Karthik, Dhoni and Jadhav can leech their ways in to the team through politics similar to Hafeez and Malik, but there should be no excuse for leaving out young talent for mediocre players.

    A Pakistani equivalent of this Indian batting order would be:

    Fakhar
    Shehzad
    Babar
    Hafeez
    Maqsood
    Malik
    Sarfraz


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful_Rox View Post
    Kohli is probably 32-33. It's unusual for a 30 year old to have white facial hair. Next World Cup he will probbaly be 36-37
    I'm in my mid 20s and I'm getting some white facial hair..


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    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    With Dhoni sure to retire, who is there to guide the new batch of youngters coming in.
    Kohli is a good captain but its not hidden that Dhoni was his shoulder to lean on and support for when things got tough.

    India will always have new talent coming in what with their strong domestic structure and IPL success but the question really is will Kohli be able to lead without Dhoni without Sharma without Dhawan without his gun players?

    Does he have what it takes to lead a new batch of youngsters under his wing plus who will be the back up captain or vice captain by that year also.

    They have some rebuilding to do but not alot as I see it, they have work cut out for themselves in the middle order but I think in terms of the bowling department they are sorted for couple years and to find new openers to replace their most successful opening pair in a long time I talk about Dhawan and Sharma not Rahul.

    How old is KL Rahul because he would still be part of the squad if he improves his technique.

    Pant seems like bits and pieces cricketer not solid mind you. And Pandya although is a finisher, still needs alot of work on his shots too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nads_rocks View Post
    With Dhoni sure to retire, who is there to guide the new batch of youngters coming in.
    Kohli is a good captain but its not hidden that Dhoni was his shoulder to lean on and support for when things got tough.

    India will always have new talent coming in what with their strong domestic structure and IPL success but the question really is will Kohli be able to lead without Dhoni without Sharma without Dhawan without his gun players?

    Does he have what it takes to lead a new batch of youngsters under his wing plus who will be the back up captain or vice captain by that year also.

    They have some rebuilding to do but not alot as I see it, they have work cut out for themselves in the middle order but I think in terms of the bowling department they are sorted for couple years and to find new openers to replace their most successful opening pair in a long time I talk about Dhawan and Sharma not Rahul.

    How old is KL Rahul because he would still be part of the squad if he improves his technique.

    Pant seems like bits and pieces cricketer not solid mind you. And Pandya although is a finisher, still needs alot of work on his shots too.
    He won a series in Australia without Dhoni and with newbies like Pant and Mayank Agarwal which even the likes of Ganguly couldn’t. Guiding Youngsters in ODI cricket is much easier task than that.

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    Time for Shaw and Gill to cement themselves in the top 5

    2023 line up should be,

    1. Shaw
    2. Sharma
    3. Kohli
    4. Gill
    5. Pant
    6. Pandya

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    Shaw
    Sharma/Agarwal/Gill
    Kohli
    Gill/Iyer(Gill certain,either as opener or at 4)
    Iyer/Vihari
    Pant
    Pandya

    Krunal pandya and ravi jadeja will also be crucial as spinning allrounders next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asfandyar View Post
    So you are admitting that age manipulation does take place in India, and then showing your bias by citing a smaller number? The fact, no matter how much you remain in denial, is that it used to happen on both sides pretty regularly. However, modern systems implemented after 2002 have ensured accuracy.
    Most of these cricketer come from higher-middle class or middle class families. They are usually born in cities, in a hospital where they actually record time of birth and etc. It is well known that Dhoni maybe 1 to 2 years older. That may have played a role in him not getting called up for the 2000 U-19 WC.

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    They still have a great spin attack for Asian conditions so their only real struggle will be to replace the aging openers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I am having troubles with my account. It has been hacked, you can confirm with the mods. I wanted to but couldn't log in.

    Gill is an illustrious talent and your myopic point of view, based on one series, means nothing. Give him a good run and watch him fly. He is an Indian great in the making and potentially equal to the likes of Kohli and Rohit. Shaw and Gill are the next big Indian batsmen.
    Both are very weak and have attitude problems one under 19 World Cup doesn’t show how good a batsman is. At the time the likes of kohli and Sharma we’re playing u19 there was no IPL players dreamed of playing for India. Now the upcoming players dream of playing the IPL and getting Crores which both have got before even playing for their country. So both are bound to fail in international cricket and even if they play they won’t play with the same intensity they play IPL. I remember pandya skipped a series just so he could be fit for the IPL lol

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    Question for Indian fans here, how good or bad is Pandey? As every time I have seen him bat I was aghast that he was not featured in Indian middle order?
    Last edited by BakuGM; 11th July 2019 at 08:42.

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    Talent is not a problem for Indian cricket, utilizing that talent is the problem, big problem as we all witnessed during this WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakuGM View Post
    Question for Indian fans here, how good or bad is Pandey? As every time I have seen him bat I was aghast that he was not featured in Indian middle order?
    Manish Pandey is awful. Plays safe to keep his place in the side like Rayudu, not to win matches. Only has that one innings of note against Australia but shouldn't be anywhere near the Indian team anytime soon.

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    This thread is discussing the wrong thing. We have the talent but will we get a management and selectors who will give these players a chance.

    Jadeja's knock will set us back a bit, but I hope. The general dislike of kohli's management style and shastri not being liked much either carries us through. What india need is coach and selectors who can question kohli's decision making ability, this isn't his fiefdom and that needs to be made clear that choker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean&Green View Post
    Both are very weak and have attitude problems one under 19 World Cup doesn’t show how good a batsman is. At the time the likes of kohli and Sharma we’re playing u19 there was no IPL players dreamed of playing for India. Now the upcoming players dream of playing the IPL and getting Crores which both have got before even playing for their country. So both are bound to fail in international cricket and even if they play they won’t play with the same intensity they play IPL. I remember pandya skipped a series just so he could be fit for the IPL lol
    So you personally know about these attitude issues that no one else knows about, you must be a real life sherlock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean&Green View Post
    Both are very weak and have attitude problems one under 19 World Cup doesn’t show how good a batsman is.
    Shubman Gill has scored 1089 runs in 9 first-class matches at an average of 77.8 and a strike rate of 77.3, while in List-A cricket he has scored 1591 runs in 39 matches at an average of 45.5 and a strike rate of 84.9.

    Prithvi Shae has scored 1767 runs in 17 first-class matches at an average of 60.93 and a strike rate of 78.81, while in List-A cricket he has scored 1045 runs in 26 matches at an average of 40.19 and a strike rate of 113.33.

    They're scoring big runs in domestic cricket unlike any other 19-year-olds have before in India. Hence the hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Those ages are not real age , you need to add 3 - 4 years to that.

    Dhoni will not be there
    Quote Originally Posted by Realromeo View Post
    This is not Pakistan, max 1 year and that probably applies to Dhoni only.
    Quote Originally Posted by nextover666666 View Post
    Your right it's India they should add 5-7 years
    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    I do not agree , its more than a year. I am not saying everyone , but there is certainly doubt.
    Having actually grown up in India, unlike many who are posting about this, I can tell you that Indian ages are accurate. The age fudging thing doesn't happen except in rare cases and in those cases too it is detected by referring to birth and school records.

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    The kid Shaw is next level talent. Not sure about others.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    You magically disappeared when your team was getting a mega phainta of their lives. Did they had an off day?

    Baring ftb Sharma and Kohli, they have nothing to show for their ‘powerhouse’.

    Is that the same Gill who failed miserably against NZ in an ODI series?
    We were always good enough to give a phainta to Pakistan team and make sure they didnot qualify for semis.

    Isnt it a bit shameless for a pakistani fan to try and make fun of a team thats has performed far better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean&Green View Post
    Both are very weak and have attitude problems one under 19 World Cup doesn’t show how good a batsman is. At the time the likes of kohli and Sharma we’re playing u19 there was no IPL players dreamed of playing for India. Now the upcoming players dream of playing the IPL and getting Crores which both have got before even playing for their country. So both are bound to fail in international cricket and even if they play they won’t play with the same intensity they play IPL. I remember pandya skipped a series just so he could be fit for the IPL lol
    Weak? Atitude problem? Who said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realromeo View Post
    Most of these cricketer come from higher-middle class or middle class families. They are usually born in cities, in a hospital where they actually record time of birth and etc. It is well known that Dhoni maybe 1 to 2 years older. That may have played a role in him not getting called up for the 2000 U-19 WC.
    Doesn't mean anything. The affluent are the first to jump in when 2-3 years can be bought for a bribe (had a rich friend who was 2 years older than his official age). The age of lower-class is misrepresented due to lack of access to facilities (most of them don't even know their real birth date).


    In merit vs potential, potential usually causes the greatest heartbreak

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    Quote Originally Posted by asfandyar View Post
    Doesn't mean anything. The affluent are the first to jump in when 2-3 years can be bought for a bribe (had a rich friend who was 2 years older than his official age). The age of lower-class is misrepresented due to lack of access to facilities (most of them don't even know their real birth date).
    Quite true my rich Indian friend lowered his age by 4 years, he said his dad did it to for cheaper flights

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    India's 2023 team looks top class honestly

    Shaw
    Mayank
    Gill
    kohli
    pant
    pandya
    shubam dube
    nagarkoti/vihari
    kuldeep
    saini /bhuvi/shami?
    bumrah

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    With Dhoni gone, they will have Shaw at 3 soon. The openers Rohit and Dhawan are gun. Kohli will bat at 4. I think Gill will be 5, Pant at 6 and Pandya at 7. Bowlers are very young. That should be a solid top 5 capable of scoring hundreds and then a couple of hitters in Pant and Pandya. Spin twins will continue and Bumrah will probably get a new bowling partner

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    India will have a better line up. Manjot Kalra will also join them. Ryan Parag looked supremely confident

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Those ages are not real age , you need to add 3 - 4 years to that.

    Dhoni will not be there
    Not everybody fakes there age and I'd say most people in the Pakistan are also their actual age now. I hate desi but especially Pakistani habit doubting peoples age just cause they look the way expect them look at a certain age.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful_Rox View Post
    Kohli is probably 32-33. It's unusual for a 30 year old to have white facial hair. Next World Cup he will probbaly be 36-37
    This hilarious, typical desi pseuodoscience. There are plenty of people in their 20s with gray facial hairs or even gray hairs on their head. Kohli captained in india in the under 19 world cup about 11 years and looked his age and he looks like normal 30-31 year old man. If you think these guys look old then come to America and you'll see white and black guys that look WAY older than their age, I know 18-19 year olds here that look older than 24-25 year olds desis.


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