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    [VIDEO] Was Michael Holding this quick? 164 km/h



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    Shoaib had the luxury of technology in his time. There can be more faster deliveries bowled in history of cricket.

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    The delivery looks like a thunderbolt in slow motion also!

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    I don’t know the maths behind this but surely we are unable to accurately calculate this otherwise there would be official stats retrospectively measuring speeds of bowlers everywhere! Don’t believe it

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    initial video looks slightly sped up as well before they slow it down. impossible to judge speed just by looking at the screen.

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    Cant be judged like this. Video is slow mo and then its pace is suddenly increased around the end.

    Also short balls are generally captured at a lower speed by speed gun now a days than the fuller length deliveries so I highly doubt a short ball can be of 164 km/h.

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    they can measure average speed of a ball from the time it is delivered to the time it reach the batsmen. but since they measure fastest speed at the time of release no comparison can be made with fastest delivery record.

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    We know from the in-match Perth Test measurements in 1975-76 - which used the most sensitive speed measurement devices ever used in cricket - that Thomson bowled at 160.45 and Roberts bowled at 159.49.

    (Modern measuring devices are cheaper and easier to set up, but film at 25 frames per second instead of 500 frames per second - they are twenty times LESS sensitive than the Photo-Sonics devices used in 1975-76.)

    But we also know that Andy Roberts was measured the following month at 157.4 and Michael Holding - who was still a rookie - at 153.2.

    Eight months later, in England, Holding had developed physically and was clearly by now faster than Roberts ever had been.

    I have no doubt that Holding will have bowled in the mid-160's between 1976 and 1978. But probably only his fuller-pitched deliveries.

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    A short pitched delivery at that speed? No chance.

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    Wow that action

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    Quote Originally Posted by hur rizvi View Post
    Wow that action
    Whispering death

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    The fastest Holding was ever clocked at was 141 km/hr officially

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    Holding would easily hit 160 hmph , in fact I think all WI fast bowlers in those days did.

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    The only speed test which has video evidence marked holding at max 140 kph.
    So basically he was as fast as hassan ali nothing else.
    Jeff Thompson was the only real fast bowler in 70s 80s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    The fastest Holding was ever clocked at was 141 km/hr officially
    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    The only speed test which has video evidence marked holding at max 140 kph.
    So basically he was as fast as hassan ali nothing else.
    Jeff Thompson was the only real fast bowler in 70s 80s
    Those speeds were measured at the end of the pitch not 10-20 feet after release as it is today.


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    Speed gun technology has advanced with time, and itís also difficult to get speed readings from recorded video given the different frame rates, conversion from one format to another, playback speed variation etc.

    However one thing is clear that when legends of cricket including Imran Khan who himself was a genuine fast bowler recognised that Holding and Jeff Thompson were the fastest bowlers he had seen then thereís no doubt these guys were express and genuinely quick. The same with other WI quicks like Andy Roberts, Malcolm Marshall, Patterson, from that era, and anyone who witnessed their fast bowling spells as their quickest will have no doubt these guys were lethal.

    The fact that these days even an Ishant Sharma or Stuart Broad who look pedestrian to the naked eye in comparison to the genuine quicks of 70s/80s/90s era and yet they are clocking at 90 odd mph now and again gives a hint about what kind of electrifying speeds the likes of Holding, Thomson, Roberts, Marshall weíre bowling at consistently who had wicket keepers standing miles (ok, slight exaggeration) behind wickets.

    Letís face it even Javagal Srinath clocked at 90 odd on the odd speed gun here and there, no one recognised him as a genuine fast bowler even in that era ? He definitely looked like a medium pacer compared to Michale Holding just watching with the naked eye, unless my eyes deceived me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    The fastest Holding was ever clocked at was 141 km/hr officially
    Which is ridiculous as he was much quicker than that.




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