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    Is Wasim Khan bringing much needed reforms to the PCB?

    The way PCB has reacted to this whole event has really earned my respect and I am sure many people are surprised because PCB is known for being emotional and draggic things in the media that should be silently dealt with behind the closed doors.

    Other than Misbah's appointment, I think he has been incredibly professional and has been bringing much needed reforms like renovation of stadiums, bringing foreign pich specialists, bringing much needed accountability of big fishes sitting in the PCB, SL series at home and now this.

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    Yes we are losing whatever dignity we had.

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    also he has finally implemented the domestic structure that everyone talked about and made sure that only top players face each others. No more 14 teams tournament where you can't differentiate quality performances.

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    Good guy. Will come through and we need more like him occupying posts in the PCB.

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    Hosting two complete tours and PSL in Pakistan along with much needed domestic reforms. I think he has been doing decently. I still think he needs to work towards Pak playing more cricket per year in terms of tests and ODIs and also Pak national team's performances should be closely monitored and should be provided any staff personnel or facilities they need as national team needs to keep on performing to keep any extra pressure away.

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    Also just to add I think school cricket needs to be revived big time with a proper structure in place and I hope Wasim is looking into it.

    We are loosing a lot of talent on that side with highly skilled youngsters who are students and need a proper career road map in cricket to follow alongside their studies. Without a proper road map they just leave cricket mid way and we have lost unimaginable amount of talent through this drainage.

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    Wasim is a thorough professional and knows what's best for PAK cricket.

    First, he kicked out Mickey Arthur who took us to our worst level. Decision already paying off, PAK becoming a formidable force especially in Test cricket, Misbah delivering our best results in years. Our team hasn't been this good in a really long time.

    Now this BCB situation was also dealt with in a calm, professional manner.

    Don't like emotional idiots running organizations.

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    He is cleaning the PCB up. If Mamoon is constantly criticizing someone in the PCB, you know he is the perfect guy for the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Hosting two complete tours and PSL in Pakistan along with much needed domestic reforms. I think he has been doing decently. I still think he needs to work towards Pak playing more cricket per year in terms of tests and ODIs and also Pak national team's performances should be closely monitored and should be provided any staff personnel or facilities they need as national team needs to keep on performing to keep any extra pressure away.
    I think Misbah and Azhar are on a close watch and any slip up can cost them their jobs.
    In regards to getting more games they have made test cricket a priority and that's a good thing the previous setup would have offered BCB odis in place of tests once BCB started showing reluctance to stick for tests but WK and EM stuck to their guns that they need test cricket and in the end they got an extra game out off all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Yes we are losing whatever dignity we had.
    Yes, multiple tours to Pakistan, a revamped domestic structure and a clean out of some of the useless dinosaurs. What an undignified few months.

    You have a great insight on many topics, but you have the classic Pakistani syndrome - you pick a side early on and regardless of any updates you refuse to change your opinion. It just so happens, that for whatever reason you always pick the opposite of the popular opinion which helps you get a reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Hosting two complete tours and PSL in Pakistan along with much needed domestic reforms. I think he has been doing decently. I still think he needs to work towards Pak playing more cricket per year in terms of tests and ODIs and also Pak national team's performances should be closely monitored and should be provided any staff personnel or facilities they need as national team needs to keep on performing to keep any extra pressure away.
    That will come with time and good relations with other boards to play more cricket in Pakistan. Another thing is that the FTP was already published before he came to office. When it's time for new FTP to be assigned again, I'm 100% confident that Wasim khan will have Pakistan play more cricket year around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Also just to add I think school cricket needs to be revived big time with a proper structure in place and I hope Wasim is looking into it.

    We are loosing a lot of talent on that side with highly skilled youngsters who are students and need a proper career road map in cricket to follow alongside their studies. Without a proper road map they just leave cricket mid way and we have lost unimaginable amount of talent through this drainage.
    @Titan24 I think he is the guy who could also eventually overhaul the school system as well. I just hope he can withstand the nonsense that all people that try to bring positive change have to endure.. Pakistan cricket has historically been filled with people that look after their own self interests rather than the greater good of the country. He, as an outsider, but with professional ability and a clear conscience is one that can bring that change inshAllah.

    This is why I so so really hope that he stays for the duration of his contract, and that provisions are put in place so that the PCB management doesn't change every time the country's government changes

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    Other than Misbah and Waqar appointments, Wasim Khan has done a great job so far.

    PCB is finally looking like a professional body.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    He is cleaning the PCB up. If Mamoon is constantly criticizing someone in the PCB, you know he is the perfect guy for the job
    Well said

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    Great job done by wasim khan brilliant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Also just to add I think school cricket needs to be revived big time with a proper structure in place and I hope Wasim is looking into it.

    We are loosing a lot of talent on that side with highly skilled youngsters who are students and need a proper career road map in cricket to follow alongside their studies. Without a proper road map they just leave cricket mid way and we have lost unimaginable amount of talent through this drainage.
    @Titan24 Definitely this man Wasim khan will revive school cricket. The thing that makes him a legend is that since day one he said his goals and objectives for pakistan cricket and so far he has completed what he said he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    @Titan24 I think he is the guy who could also eventually overhaul the school system as well. I just hope he can withstand the nonsense that all people that try to bring positive change have to endure.. Pakistan cricket has historically been filled with people that look after their own self interests rather than the greater good of the country. He, as an outsider, but with professional ability and a clear conscience is one that can bring that change inshAllah.

    This is why I so so really hope that he stays for the duration of his contract, and that provisions are put in place so that the PCB management doesn't change every time the country's government changes
    Aptly put. I think he has done well to overcome quite a few obstacles to reform domestic cricket as he had the support of PCB and the Govt. School and grass root cricket is his forte and he became a known cricket administrator in UK because of his success as CEO with the project "Chance to Shine" which was intended to regenerate cricket in state schools. So there is no reason he cant replicate that in Pakistan too but would definitely be needing a lot of support from Govt and school systems of Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    He is cleaning the PCB up. If Mamoon is constantly criticizing someone in the PCB, you know he is the perfect guy for the job
    Very true

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFresh23 View Post
    @Titan24 Definitely this man Wasim khan will revive school cricket. The thing that makes him a legend is that since day one he said his goals and objectives for pakistan cricket and so far he has completed what he said he will.
    True, he has done quite a few things pretty smoothly as well which he wanted to. With his previous success in UK with "Chance to Shine", he should be able to do same with school cricket in Pakistan as well. Yes the dynamics will be different but with Govt support he should be able to complete that transformation too.

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    Wasim Khan is a professional CEO, he will do things properly. The only issue is whether he can use his professionalism without interference and whether he ca. Withstand the constant attack from the jilted PCB mafia and their abbetors in the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Wasim Khan is a professional CEO, he will do things properly. The only issue is whether he can use his professionalism without interference and whether he ca. Withstand the constant attack from the jilted PCB mafia and their abbetors in the media.
    Yeah that's the only obstacle that he may face. However Ehsan mani, himself is very professional and supports Wasim khan alot. Wasim khan and Ehsan Mani need to have a good connection, which they have. Inshaallah everything goes right. All prayers are with Wasim khan and Ehsan mani to improve Pakistan cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSN View Post
    The way PCB has reacted to this whole event has really earned my respect and I am sure many people are surprised because PCB is known for being emotional and draggic things in the media that should be silently dealt with behind the closed doors.

    Other than Misbah's appointment, I think he has been incredibly professional and has been bringing much needed reforms like renovation of stadiums, bringing foreign pich specialists, bringing much needed accountability of big fishes sitting in the PCB, SL series at home and now this.
    Also let's not forget PCB is filled with backstabbers who don't want change. So to make any positive change in that environment is monumental. We also see a small glimpse of the negative people that constantly perpetuate pessimism on this forum. Imagine an organization filled with such people and that's what we call PCB.

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    It’ll be a few years before he’s able to fix the actual cancer eating our cricket up. I really think his hands are still tied and can’t freely implement what he wants. But time will tell.

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    - Wasim Khan quickly managed to land a job in the PCB with the “I want to leave England to help Pakistan cricket” drama.

    We are told that he was set to become the next ECB Chief. I saw England dodged a bullet because he would probably have turned a world champion side into Ireland.

    - He was handed the so-called reformed domestic structure by Imran Khan himself, and all he did was implement a ready-made structure.

    There are no guarantees that the structure will even work for Pakistan. It appears that we have copy pasted Shield cricket without thinking it through.

    As PM, Imran has ruined everything so I won’t be surprised if he has even managed to make our cricket even worse.

    - He allowed Misbah to decide the future of Arthur even though Misbah was in contention to replace him as coach.

    A terrible decision that exposed the incompetency and unprofessionalism of Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket”.

    - The job description for the coach/selector position was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants. In fact, the job was already handed over to Misbah and the advertisement was only for show.

    That is why no serious candidate applied even though a dual coach/selector role is very attractive, in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer. Coaches could see through the facade.

    - the appointment of Misbah itself was a joke. He was given the responsibility of a coach and a selector with literally zero prior experience. Is this the professionalism Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket” learned during his time with the ECB?

    - as far as his famed “negation skills” are concerned that people will sing songs and write poems about, he is only capitalizing on the work done by Sethi and Shahryar Khan.

    They were the ones, especially Sethi, who set the ball rolling and opened the door for international cricket to return to Pakistan. Wasim wouldn’t have been able to convince teams if we wouldn’t have successfully hosted a few matches every year from 2015 onwards.

    He should not have accepted this nonsense of breaking up a 2 Test series over a period of 3 months. This is a cricket tour not a circus. PCB should not tolerate such disrespect if they have an ounce of dignity.

    Getting carted around by another board and getting this ridiculous schedule is not called good negotiating skills.

    Unfortunately, Pakistan cricket has reached a point where it takes absolutely nothing for the fans to get excited.

    So far, I would give Wasim Khan only 3/10 and I don’t see what he has brought to the table with all his so-called ECB experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    - Wasim Khan quickly managed to land a job in the PCB with the “I want to leave England to help Pakistan cricket” drama.

    We are told that he was set to become the next ECB Chief. I saw England dodged a bullet because he would probably have turned a world champion side into Ireland.

    - He was handed the so-called reformed domestic structure by Imran Khan himself, and all he did was implement a ready-made structure.

    There are no guarantees that the structure will even work for Pakistan. It appears that we have copy pasted Shield cricket without thinking it through.

    As PM, Imran has ruined everything so I won’t be surprised if he has even managed to make our cricket even worse.

    - He allowed Misbah to decide the future of Arthur even though Misbah was in contention to replace him as coach.

    A terrible decision that exposed the incompetency and unprofessionalism of Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket”.

    - The job description for the coach/selector position was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants. In fact, the job was already handed over to Misbah and the advertisement was only for show.

    That is why no serious candidate applied even though a dual coach/selector role is very attractive, in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer. Coaches could see through the facade.

    - the appointment of Misbah itself was a joke. He was given the responsibility of a coach and a selector with literally zero prior experience. Is this the professionalism Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket” learned during his time with the ECB?

    - as far as his famed “negation skills” are concerned that people will sing songs and write poems about, he is only capitalizing on the work done by Sethi and Shahryar Khan.

    They were the ones, especially Sethi, who set the ball rolling and opened the door for international cricket to return to Pakistan. Wasim wouldn’t have been able to convince teams if we wouldn’t have successfully hosted a few matches every year from 2015 onwards.

    He should not have accepted this nonsense of breaking up a 2 Test series over a period of 3 months. This is a cricket tour not a circus. PCB should not tolerate such disrespect if they have an ounce of dignity.

    Getting carted around by another board and getting this ridiculous schedule is not called good negotiating skills.

    Unfortunately, Pakistan cricket has reached a point where it takes absolutely nothing for the fans to get excited.

    So far, I would give Wasim Khan only 3/10 and I don’t see what he has brought to the table with all his so-called ECB experience.
    Your central argument is that Wasim Khan has simply picked up on the work of the people before him and therefore he does not deserve the utmost credit.

    Even if this is correct, all PCB needed was a half sensible man to fix up or brush up on the hard work done by those before him and therefore Wasim Khan has done the most he can given the circumstances that he was placed into. Please stop being bitter.

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    So far very average and long way to go.
    He selected Misbah who doesn't even meet the job advertisement qualification and that is a major setback for Wasim/Imran Khan as nepotism. Next time people will not take any PCB's job application seriously.
    Also Domestic reform is IK's idea but still many useless TTFS selected over youngsters.
    The pool of players for PSL is shocking and many promising youngsters overlooked for he sake of so called useless oldies.
    The head coach of our girls team is nothing special.
    There are many things also direct copy paste from English league like No Toss system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Your central argument is that Wasim Khan has simply picked up on the work of the people before him and therefore he does not deserve the utmost credit.

    Even if this is correct, all PCB needed was a half sensible man to fix up or brush up on the hard work done by those before him and therefore Wasim Khan has done the most he can given the circumstances that he was placed into. Please stop being bitter.
    A job of this magnitude takes at least 2 maybe 3 years to rectify, anyone that expects immediate results does not understand how big corporations work. From what i can see Wasim has already stated to clear the dead wood, and is setting up his base to start his reforms, but some people will always remain bitter and hate just to go against the grain, its in our pakistani blood.

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    He has done nothing..we are doomed..all we need to do is find a wrist slitting device and join the doctor from "peshawar"..

    On a serious note his approach is refreshing. His attempt to carry out a full organisational review is very ambitious and very necessary. I think its long overdue. I like the new structure they created for the doemstic competition and the fact they managed to get it done in such a short time was quite a feat.

    His communication skills are very good and he is very competent. We need professionals like him to feel they can come to an org like the PCB and thrive. He can set a precedent and hopefully it will continue.

    I am looking forward to the next year and their forward planning is also a refreshing aspect.

    The PCB still functions like it did when Kardar was around. Now that was ok for the seventies and eighties but not today. Wasim is bringing the org into the 21st century at speed.

    Overall i would give him a 7 out of 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Your central argument is that Wasim Khan has simply picked up on the work of the people before him and therefore he does not deserve the utmost credit.

    Even if this is correct, all PCB needed was a half sensible man to fix up or brush up on the hard work done by those before him and therefore Wasim Khan has done the most he can given the circumstances that he was placed into. Please stop being bitter.
    some people think they are cleverer than others and at the same time think their opinion has some merit to it just because they are contrary or appear to be intellectual. In reality they are nothing of the sort. Mere noise to get noticed. Best to not respond and simply ignore.

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    He’s an inspirational person and InshaAllah more educated brits will be allowed to serve Pakistan the way he has been provided the opportunity

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    Except for the national head coach/selectors roles, he has done a wonderful job.

    For me, using kookaburra balls for domestic cricket has been the best move because it will only raise the standards and make sure bowlers are very well equipped, when they make the jump to international cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Your central argument is that Wasim Khan has simply picked up on the work of the people before him and therefore he does not deserve the utmost credit.

    Even if this is correct, all PCB needed was a half sensible man to fix up or brush up on the hard work done by those before him and therefore Wasim Khan has done the most he can given the circumstances that he was placed into. Please stop being bitter.
    My central argument is that Wasim Khan is incompetent, and I don’t need to look beyond how (a) he allowed Misbah to be on the panel that decided Arthur’s future and (b) handed the job to Misbah on a platter before advertising the role and (c) handed over the job to Misbah who literally has zero prior experience in either capacity.

    You cannot come up with better examples of incompetence and sheer lack of professionalism. These are not the actions of a half sensible man; these are the action of a con-man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    He is cleaning the PCB up. If Mamoon is constantly criticizing someone in the PCB, you know he is the perfect guy for the job
    Couldn't agree more.
    Apart from Misbah and Waqar selection he has been decent in his performance so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    My central argument is that Wasim Khan is incompetent, and I don’t need to look beyond how (a) he allowed Misbah to be on the panel that decided Arthur’s future and (b) handed the job to Misbah on a platter before advertising the role and (c) handed over the job to Misbah who literally has zero prior experience in either capacity.

    You cannot come up with better examples of incompetence and sheer lack of professionalism. These are not the actions of a half sensible man; these are the action of a con-man.
    These 3 things will be 3 big black spots on his achievement even if he end up very successful administrative person. No way he can deny about that because whole procedure were pre-planned corrupt way to promote Misbah. You cannot start things corrupt way and the outcome will be pure.

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    Reminds me of the book "who moved my cheeze?"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese%3F

    Problem with people resistant to change is that their views become irrelevant after a little time. Criticizing Wasim Khan is an easy job without realizing what he is up against.

    As for Misbah/Waqar appointments - we know that its too early to pass judgement but the hare for Imran Khan seems to be underlying theme for some sad people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shafi View Post
    Also Domestic reform is IK's idea but still many useless TTFS selected over youngsters.
    The pool of players for PSL is shocking and many promising youngsters overlooked for he sake of so called useless oldies.
    Didn't know Wasim Khan was a domestic coach and PSL franchise owner too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    He is cleaning the PCB up. If Mamoon is constantly criticizing someone in the PCB, you know he is the perfect guy for the job
    Why would someone who is habitual critic for the sake of criticism be the yardstick to measure the capability of a person appointed?
    Last edited by kk1992; 15th January 2020 at 19:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Reminds me of the book "who moved my cheeze?"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Moved_My_Cheese%3F

    Problem with people resistant to change is that their views become irrelevant after a little time. Criticizing Wasim Khan is an easy job without realizing what he is up against.

    As for Misbah/Waqar appointments - we know that its too early to pass judgement but the hare for Imran Khan seems to be underlying theme for some sad people.
    The question with the Misbah appointment isn't so much of what Misbah can produce - he may end up being the greatest selector / coach in the history of cricket and help Pak win multiple World Cups. The question will still be, why was someone with almost no experience appointed to not one but two of the most critical positions in Pakistan cricket.

    Outside of that hugely significant decision, Wasim has been fantastic. But his fate will always be tied to the Misbah decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    - Wasim Khan quickly managed to land a job in the PCB with the “I want to leave England to help Pakistan cricket” drama.

    We are told that he was set to become the next ECB Chief. I saw England dodged a bullet because he would probably have turned a world champion side into Ireland.

    - He was handed the so-called reformed domestic structure by Imran Khan himself, and all he did was implement a ready-made structure.

    There are no guarantees that the structure will even work for Pakistan. It appears that we have copy pasted Shield cricket without thinking it through.

    As PM, Imran has ruined everything so I won’t be surprised if he has even managed to make our cricket even worse.

    - He allowed Misbah to decide the future of Arthur even though Misbah was in contention to replace him as coach.

    A terrible decision that exposed the incompetency and unprofessionalism of Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket”.

    - The job description for the coach/selector position was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants. In fact, the job was already handed over to Misbah and the advertisement was only for show.

    That is why no serious candidate applied even though a dual coach/selector role is very attractive, in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer. Coaches could see through the facade.

    - the appointment of Misbah itself was a joke. He was given the responsibility of a coach and a selector with literally zero prior experience. Is this the professionalism Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket” learned during his time with the ECB?

    - as far as his famed “negation skills” are concerned that people will sing songs and write poems about, he is only capitalizing on the work done by Sethi and Shahryar Khan.

    They were the ones, especially Sethi, who set the ball rolling and opened the door for international cricket to return to Pakistan. Wasim wouldn’t have been able to convince teams if we wouldn’t have successfully hosted a few matches every year from 2015 onwards.

    He should not have accepted this nonsense of breaking up a 2 Test series over a period of 3 months. This is a cricket tour not a circus. PCB should not tolerate such disrespect if they have an ounce of dignity.

    Getting carted around by another board and getting this ridiculous schedule is not called good negotiating skills.

    Unfortunately, Pakistan cricket has reached a point where it takes absolutely nothing for the fans to get excited.

    So far, I would give Wasim Khan only 3/10 and I don’t see what he has brought to the table with all his so-called ECB experience.
    First of all your arguments are pointless and are not true because you have zero facts. Wasim khan was living a good life and was getting paid more in England than he is now in Pakistan. Second of all he revived school cricket in one of the counties with a program called Chance to Shine. He attracted many kids and generated many revenue from that program.
    Now talking about the hiring of Misbah as a coach and selector. That's actually a good move because now Misbah will be totally accountable for all the decisions he makes. Like I said before in another post Pak needs to have a pakistani coach because of the language barrier that our cricketers have. Nee Zealand's head coach Gary stead is also head coach and a selector. Misbah is a modern cricketer who lead a team for many years so he has the leadership skills, it's just he doesnt have the experience.

    Now going back to the LEGEND Wasim Khan, his negotiating skills are top notch. He has good relationship with other cricket boards. He and Ehsan mani just made a series that was not going to happen to a series that is happening with matches in all three formats. You cant just force a country to tour. You have to discuss in a professional way.

    Our previous chairman Najam Sethi and Shahryar khan did no work. Najam sethi just started a team to come but he had minnow teams coming like west indies and Zimbabwe and that's it.
    Wasim khan and Ehsan mani are making the pcb a professional board. No other cricket board in the world has the chairman making decisions.

    So we get it your a hater 😂😂😂😂😂. It's all good. You will find out inshaallah🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    My central argument is that Wasim Khan is incompetent, and I don’t need to look beyond how (a) he allowed Misbah to be on the panel that decided Arthur’s future and (b) handed the job to Misbah on a platter before advertising the role and (c) handed over the job to Misbah who literally has zero prior experience in either capacity.

    You cannot come up with better examples of incompetence and sheer lack of professionalism. These are not the actions of a half sensible man; these are the action of a con-man.
    All of this is completely true. Given they were his first steps in the role it's even worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    All of this is completely true. Given they were his first steps in the role it's even worse.

    Misbah hasn't even been a coach for a year yet and you guys are criticizing Wasim khan and Misbah. Like he said many times he will make tough decisions and some will be bad but they will not know until they make these decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    - Wasim Khan quickly managed to land a job in the PCB with the “I want to leave England to help Pakistan cricket” drama.

    We are told that he was set to become the next ECB Chief. I saw England dodged a bullet because he would probably have turned a world champion side into Ireland.

    - He was handed the so-called reformed domestic structure by Imran Khan himself, and all he did was implement a ready-made structure.

    There are no guarantees that the structure will even work for Pakistan. It appears that we have copy pasted Shield cricket without thinking it through.

    As PM, Imran has ruined everything so I won’t be surprised if he has even managed to make our cricket even worse.

    - He allowed Misbah to decide the future of Arthur even though Misbah was in contention to replace him as coach.

    A terrible decision that exposed the incompetency and unprofessionalism of Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket”.

    - The job description for the coach/selector position was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants. In fact, the job was already handed over to Misbah and the advertisement was only for show.

    That is why no serious candidate applied even though a dual coach/selector role is very attractive, in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer. Coaches could see through the facade.

    - the appointment of Misbah itself was a joke. He was given the responsibility of a coach and a selector with literally zero prior experience. Is this the professionalism Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket” learned during his time with the ECB?

    - as far as his famed “negation skills” are concerned that people will sing songs and write poems about, he is only capitalizing on the work done by Sethi and Shahryar Khan.

    They were the ones, especially Sethi, who set the ball rolling and opened the door for international cricket to return to Pakistan. Wasim wouldn’t have been able to convince teams if we wouldn’t have successfully hosted a few matches every year from 2015 onwards.

    He should not have accepted this nonsense of breaking up a 2 Test series over a period of 3 months. This is a cricket tour not a circus. PCB should not tolerate such disrespect if they have an ounce of dignity.

    Getting carted around by another board and getting this ridiculous schedule is not called good negotiating skills.

    Unfortunately, Pakistan cricket has reached a point where it takes absolutely nothing for the fans to get excited.

    So far, I would give Wasim Khan only 3/10 and I don’t see what he has brought to the table with all his so-called ECB experience.
    Your criticizing the domestic structure as if results were not better than the last 5 years years. As soon as the 6 CA are formed it will benefit Pakistan because the CA will be self sustainable. Many people are talking about jobs being lost. As soon as they form the 6 CA they will need coaches,selectors, trainers, and etc. They can even get coaches abroad if the CA want to.
    The previous domestic structures were just going in cycles with regions and departments combined and then they are separated. TBH departments are trash they do not produce cricketers.

    Buddy go do research before talking **** about someone that is doing the betterment for his country

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    The question with the Misbah appointment isn't so much of what Misbah can produce - he may end up being the greatest selector / coach in the history of cricket and help Pak win multiple World Cups. The question will still be, why was someone with almost no experience appointed to not one but two of the most critical positions in Pakistan cricket.

    Outside of that hugely significant decision, Wasim has been fantastic. But his fate will always be tied to the Misbah decision
    Because sometimes it is better to appoint someone with potential and not just experience. It is a massive decision but it is a bold and innovative one.

    Everyone talks about experience and yes experience is a very important part of appointing someone. Its not like Misbah is a complete ****** but yes he doesn't have the coaching experience that you would expect in a head coach. I have appointed people with experience and otehr times been involved with appointing people with potential.

    I think the Misbah decision is a massive call but I suspect it is a very forward thinking move. Its not a short term adhoc move like the PCB likes to do. The thinking is that Misbah will grow into the role and bring the team with him. I am still to be convinced but you have to start somewhere and I support the PCB in their decision. Whetehr Misbah can do it is another thing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFresh23 View Post
    Misbah hasn't even been a coach for a year yet and you guys are criticizing Wasim khan and Misbah. Like he said many times he will make tough decisions and some will be bad but they will not know until they make these decisions.
    I agree it will take years before we can appropriately judge Wasim Khan. But it was incredibly unorthodox and a huge conflict of interest to have Misbah as part of the panel who decided Mickey's future. Recognising this point doesn't make me a hater. If you don't recognise this you are blind.
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    Misbah has probably one of the most intelligent brains in Pakistan when it comes to cricket. The process of him being hired could have been done better but some of the comments here are ridiculous. It may have been unorthadox but has he broken any laws or rules or regulations. The next few years will not be about results, it will be about bringing the pcb into modern times, you may only see the results in 10 years time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller187 View Post
    Misbah has probably one of the most intelligent brains in Pakistan when it comes to cricket. The process of him being hired could have been done better but some of the comments here are ridiculous. It may have been unorthadox but has he broken any laws or rules or regulations. The next few years will not be about results, it will be about bringing the pcb into modern times, you may only see the results in 10 years time.
    Ignore the troll comments.

    When an action Wasim takes suits their favorites or their opinion, they think it's a great idea. Otherwise bad.

    Sacking Mickey Arthur and appointing Misbah is one of the best and most shrewed decisions Wasim has taken. It was out of the box, and some here are Misbah haters so they obviously thought Wasim has done a bad job, ran a hate campaign without even them starting their jobs.

    But, results are showing much earlier than expected. Our team hasn't been this good in years, we just dominated Tests as well which never did under Mickey Arthur.

    It was an out of the box and a top decision, just like others WK has made.

    Kudos to him. Our team has become so much better and more refreshing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    I agree it will take years before we can appropriately judge Wasim Khan. But it was incredibly unorthodox and a huge conflict of interest to have Misbah as part of the panel who decided Mickey's future. Recognising this point doesn't make me a hater. If you don't recognise this you are blind.
    Okay first of all yes he was in the panel that decided Mickey's future. However it was everyone that decided that Mickey should not continue as head coach. Another thing is that when everyone decided that Mickey should not continue it had to get approved from the chairman and once the chairman approved it then Misbah quit from the committee and put his name up for head coach.
    Now when they were selecting a head coach they didnt want to get a foreign coach because of the communication problems that occur with players.
    I agree the way Misbah was appointed was not good but Misbah has proved that he is a leader and just needs time and results will come. The way they played against sri lanka was amazing. Hes giving chances to youngsters like Naseem,Musa, Shaheen so that's not a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    My central argument is that Wasim Khan is incompetent, and I don’t need to look beyond how (a) he allowed Misbah to be on the panel that decided Arthur’s future and (b) handed the job to Misbah on a platter before advertising the role and (c) handed over the job to Misbah who literally has zero prior experience in either capacity.

    You cannot come up with better examples of incompetence and sheer lack of professionalism. These are not the actions of a half sensible man; these are the action of a con-man.
    First of all let me ask you this , How did he know that Misbah was going apply for head coach when they were discussing about Mickey's future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Ignore the troll comments.

    When an action Wasim takes suits their favorites or their opinion, they think it's a great idea. Otherwise bad.

    Sacking Mickey Arthur and appointing Misbah is one of the best and most shrewed decisions Wasim has taken. It was out of the box, and some here are Misbah haters so they obviously thought Wasim has done a bad job, ran a hate campaign without even them starting their jobs.

    But, results are showing much earlier than expected. Our team hasn't been this good in years, we just dominated Tests as well which never did under Mickey Arthur.

    It was an out of the box and a top decision, just like others WK has made.

    Kudos to him. Our team has become so much better and more refreshing.
    @Hawkeye At least we have someone that has common sense and recognize the achievements Wasim khan did so far, instead of criticizing them. Thank you brother for supporting such people and having the patience that most Pakistanis lack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    Because sometimes it is better to appoint someone with potential and not just experience. It is a massive decision but it is a bold and innovative one.

    Everyone talks about experience and yes experience is a very important part of appointing someone. Its not like Misbah is a complete ****** but yes he doesn't have the coaching experience that you would expect in a head coach. I have appointed people with experience and otehr times been involved with appointing people with potential.

    I think the Misbah decision is a massive call but I suspect it is a very forward thinking move. Its not a short term adhoc move like the PCB likes to do. The thinking is that Misbah will grow into the role and bring the team with him. I am still to be convinced but you have to start somewhere and I support the PCB in their decision. Whetehr Misbah can do it is another thing..
    Wise thoughts, but you're talking to a group that had made their minds to hate Misbah, before he had even started.

    Shastri also had zero experience, yet he was picked by the richest board. Still is there.

    In just a few months, Misbah has delivered what Mickey Arthur couldn't in his entire tenure. Our Test team is on the rise, we've started winning comprehensively there, the team combination is very well set and our bowling stocks are so much more exciting. #3 in World Test Championship already.

    What I like about Misbah so far is he isn't afraid to experiment. Then discard the bad results. He's bold in his selections, like picking such a young pace attack.

    Then the bold declaration in Karachi.

    Whitewashed SL in ODIs too.

    Things are only going to get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFresh23 View Post
    @Hawkeye At least we have someone that has common sense and recognize the achievements Wasim khan did so far, instead of criticizing them. Thank you brother for supporting such people and having the patience that most Pakistanis lack.
    Thanks, brother.

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    Pakistanis are so use to having corrupt people in charge who say one thing and does another. Anyone seen the state of the domestic scene and stadiums, its a car crash. Poorly run financially on top.Wasim is going to get us to or close to the ECB model. A profitable sucessful on field board. We need to wait 3 years minimim to see the impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Wise thoughts, but you're talking to a group that had made their minds to hate Misbah, before he had even started.

    Shastri also had zero experience, yet he was picked by the richest board. Still is there.

    In just a few months, Misbah has delivered what Mickey Arthur couldn't in his entire tenure. Our Test team is on the rise, we've started winning comprehensively there, the team combination is very well set and our bowling stocks are so much more exciting. #3 in World Test Championship already.

    What I like about Misbah so far is he isn't afraid to experiment. Then discard the bad results. He's bold in his selections, like picking such a young pace attack.

    Then the bold declaration in Karachi.

    Whitewashed SL in ODIs too.

    Things are only going to get better.
    What exactly has Misbah done that Mickey couldn’t do in his whole tenure may I ask? Win 1 test match?

    You mentioned the victories but what about the t20 whitewash which was almost completely down to his terrible selection against a second string Sri Lanka. Not to mention his dubious selections for Australia such as Irfan, Musa to name but a few.

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    There is no doubt that Misbah and Waqar have made some howlingly bad calls. For example,

    1. not playing Abbas 1st test;
    2. picking and playing IK Snr.;
    3. picking and playing Musa in tests;
    4. picking and not playing Fawad Alam (Misbah says Haris is the player in possession, but Alam has been waiting for ten years!);
    5. appointing Azam captain so close to T20 wc (should have been Imad).

    But apart from that, Wasim Khan seems to be doing a good job. I hope he gets some money and can start working on the structures feeding into domestic cricket.

    I hope they can get more merit into cricket selection throughout the system, but not sure the extent to which this will happen..

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    Sri Lanka in Pakistan
    BCB agreeing to tour Pakistan
    MCC tour of Pakistan
    PSL entirely in Pakistan
    QeA Trophy more competitive this season
    Getting rid of some dead wood at PCB

    Not a bad start.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Wise thoughts, but you're talking to a group that had made their minds to hate Misbah, before he had even started.

    Shastri also had zero experience, yet he was picked by the richest board. Still is there.

    In just a few months, Misbah has delivered what Mickey Arthur couldn't in his entire tenure. Our Test team is on the rise, we've started winning comprehensively there, the team combination is very well set and our bowling stocks are so much more exciting. #3 in World Test Championship already.

    What I like about Misbah so far is he isn't afraid to experiment. Then discard the bad results. He's bold in his selections, like picking such a young pace attack.

    Then the bold declaration in Karachi.

    Whitewashed SL in ODIs too.

    Things are only going to get better.
    Getting hammered in Australia in tests and T20s without being competitive in any match great our reputation just got better there.

    The test combination isn’t very well set at all apart from Babar the rest of the batsmen all have question marks over them.

    Azhar Shafiq are clearly over the hill and should’ve been dropped after the Aus tour.

    The T20 team is looking disjointed before the WC the ODI team hasn’t been tested overseas there are still questions that need to be answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Wasim is a thorough professional and knows what's best for PAK cricket.

    First, he kicked out Mickey Arthur who took us to our worst level. Decision already paying off, PAK becoming a formidable force especially in Test cricket, Misbah delivering our best results in years. Our team hasn't been this good in a really long time.

    Now this BCB situation was also dealt with in a calm, professional manner.

    Don't like emotional idiots running organizations.
    Dude you just won one test!! What formidable side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    He is cleaning the PCB up. If Mamoon is constantly criticizing someone in the PCB, you know he is the perfect guy for the job
    ���� Mamoon is spot on at times and then doesnt make any sense at most times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    - Wasim Khan quickly managed to land a job in the PCB with the “I want to leave England to help Pakistan cricket” drama.

    We are told that he was set to become the next ECB Chief. I saw England dodged a bullet because he would probably have turned a world champion side into Ireland.

    - He was handed the so-called reformed domestic structure by Imran Khan himself, and all he did was implement a ready-made structure.

    There are no guarantees that the structure will even work for Pakistan. It appears that we have copy pasted Shield cricket without thinking it through.

    As PM, Imran has ruined everything so I won’t be surprised if he has even managed to make our cricket even worse.

    - He allowed Misbah to decide the future of Arthur even though Misbah was in contention to replace him as coach.

    A terrible decision that exposed the incompetency and unprofessionalism of Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket”.

    - The job description for the coach/selector position was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants. In fact, the job was already handed over to Misbah and the advertisement was only for show.

    That is why no serious candidate applied even though a dual coach/selector role is very attractive, in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer. Coaches could see through the facade.

    - the appointment of Misbah itself was a joke. He was given the responsibility of a coach and a selector with literally zero prior experience. Is this the professionalism Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket” learned during his time with the ECB?

    - as far as his famed “negation skills” are concerned that people will sing songs and write poems about, he is only capitalizing on the work done by Sethi and Shahryar Khan.

    They were the ones, especially Sethi, who set the ball rolling and opened the door for international cricket to return to Pakistan. Wasim wouldn’t have been able to convince teams if we wouldn’t have successfully hosted a few matches every year from 2015 onwards.

    He should not have accepted this nonsense of breaking up a 2 Test series over a period of 3 months. This is a cricket tour not a circus. PCB should not tolerate such disrespect if they have an ounce of dignity.

    Getting carted around by another board and getting this ridiculous schedule is not called good negotiating skills.

    Unfortunately, Pakistan cricket has reached a point where it takes absolutely nothing for the fans to get excited.

    So far, I would give Wasim Khan only 3/10 and I don’t see what he has brought to the table with all his so-called ECB experience.
    Sorry to say not a single point make sense.
    PCB is in much better position then it was few years ago.
    Your point of PCB should not accept 2 test series over period of 3 months is utter rubbish. You trying say if PCB is in same position as ECB or CA. They should accept whatever they get in their hand for now and be on an improving spree.
    Pakistan cricket and its position is improving in world cricket it will take time things dont happen overnight.
    Appointing Misbah as a head coach is a mistake I agree to it but at times U dont have choice and Wasim Khan has clearly mentioned they will watch the performance for one year and then make a decision rather fire people left right.
    You will argue for the sake of arguement

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFresh23 View Post
    First of all let me ask you this , How did he know that Misbah was going apply for head coach when they were discussing about Mickey's future?
    The rumors of Misbah replacing Arthur as head coach started to circulate before the committee was setup.

    When you setup such a committee, you have to consider the possibility of conflict of interest and not name people who can potentially be his replacement.

    You would expect a so-called ECB stalwart who gets paid 30 lakh rupees per month by the PCB to have this insight. Unfortunately, it is clear that he was not smart enough to think it through.

    Furthermore, PCB entered into official talks with Misbah and basically handed him the job as soon as Arthur was removed.

    Why would a so-called professional with a wealth of experience in cricket administration, that too in England, appoint a man who facilitated the removal of the previous coach?

    How honest was Misbah during the meeting that decided Arthur’s future?

    I don’t blame Misbah at all. Anyone in his position would be biased against Arthur. It is human nature.

    The blame goes to PCB especially the ECB stalwart for this blatant exhibition of unprofessionalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFresh23 View Post
    Your criticizing the domestic structure as if results were not better than the last 5 years years. As soon as the 6 CA are formed it will benefit Pakistan because the CA will be self sustainable. Many people are talking about jobs being lost. As soon as they form the 6 CA they will need coaches,selectors, trainers, and etc. They can even get coaches abroad if the CA want to.
    The previous domestic structures were just going in cycles with regions and departments combined and then they are separated. TBH departments are trash they do not produce cricketers.

    Buddy go do research before talking **** about someone that is doing the betterment for his country
    What better results? We will see when these results translate into international success. Well they won’t we will remain a mediocre side, but you can keep hoping. Secondly, in my opinion, 6 teams are not enough for Pakistan’s population, especially when international failures but domestic lions are going to continue to hog spots.

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    Sorry to say not a single point make sense.
    PCB is in much better position then it was few years ago.
    Your point of PCB should not accept 2 test series over period of 3 months is utter rubbish. You trying say if PCB is in same position as ECB or CA. They should accept whatever they get in their hand for now and be on an improving spree.
    Pakistan cricket and its position is improving in world cricket it will take time things dont happen overnight.
    Appointing Misbah as a head coach is a mistake I agree to it but at times U dont have choice and Wasim Khan has clearly mentioned they will watch the performance for one year and then make a decision rather fire people left right.
    You will argue for the sake of arguement
    - There is no evidence that PCB is in a much better position than it was a few years ago. It is just what you choose to believe.

    - PCB is in a desperate position, but there certain things that you cannot compromise on because other boards will continue to exploit your situation. Breaking up a Test series in two halves is ridiculous.

    The first Test will be played from 7th February to 11th February, and the second Test will be played from 5th to 9th April.

    In between the longest Test series in history, there is a one-off ODI on 3rd April.

    What nonsense is this? Is this a circus tour or a cricket tour? If splitting a two match Test series over 3 months wasn’t bad enough, there is going to be an ODI match in-between the two Tests?

    How is this acceptable and are these the famed negotiating skills of Wasim Khan? We have set a terrible precedence and other boards can look to exploit this now.

    - What do you mean we didn’t have a choice apart from Misbah? Are you suggesting that no qualified coach was interested in becoming the dual coach and selector of Pakistan?

    There are hundreds of qualified coaches in ECB. It appears that none of them were interested in working with their stalwart Wasim Khan and get an international team on their resumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    - There is no evidence that PCB is in a much better position than it was a few years ago. It is just what you choose to believe.

    - PCB is in a desperate position, but there certain things that you cannot compromise on because other boards will continue to exploit your situation. Breaking up a Test series in two halves is ridiculous.

    The first Test will be played from 7th February to 11th February, and the second Test will be played from 5th to 9th April.

    In between the longest Test series in history, there is a one-off ODI on 3rd April.

    What nonsense is this? Is this a circus tour or a cricket tour? If splitting a two match Test series over 3 months wasn’t bad enough, there is going to be an ODI match in-between the two Tests?

    How is this acceptable and are these the famed negotiating skills of Wasim Khan? We have set a terrible precedence and other boards can look to exploit this now.

    - What do you mean we didn’t have a choice apart from Misbah? Are you suggesting that no qualified coach was interested in becoming the dual coach and selector of Pakistan?

    There are hundreds of qualified coaches in ECB. It appears that none of them were interested in working with their stalwart Wasim Khan and get an international team on their resumes.
    Bangladesh has the excuse of 'government advice' stating that they shouldn't stay in the country for long periods, this was probably the only way to accommodate them without them completely refusing the Test series.

    The 2nd Test is obviously delayed because it was too close to the PSL to host them for two Tests if they are going to keep flying in and out.

    The additional ODI will probably help recover some of the extra cost of the elongated tour. PCB supposedly proposed a T20I but they agreed on an ODI instead as it would also serve as preparation for the 2nd Test.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The rumors of Misbah replacing Arthur as head coach started to circulate before the committee was setup.

    When you setup such a committee, you have to consider the possibility of conflict of interest and not name people who can potentially be his replacement.

    You would expect a so-called ECB stalwart who gets paid 30 lakh rupees per month by the PCB to have this insight. Unfortunately, it is clear that he was not smart enough to think it through.

    Furthermore, PCB entered into official talks with Misbah and basically handed him the job as soon as Arthur was removed.

    Why would a so-called professional with a wealth of experience in cricket administration, that too in England, appoint a man who facilitated the removal of the previous coach?

    How honest was Misbah during the meeting that decided Arthur’s future?

    I don’t blame Misbah at all. Anyone in his position would be biased against Arthur. It is human nature.

    The blame goes to PCB especially the ECB stalwart for this blatant exhibition of unprofessionalism.
    Okay first of all rumors are not true at all. Anyone can make rumors about anything. Rumors are made by people like you that dont have any common sense and just like to talk. Now when the committee was formed Misbah was on there and many others. Any person in that committee had the right to apply for the post of head coach.
    Why you only attacking Misbah and Wasim. It was a unanimous decision from the committee. You must be a jealous man and is jobless for attacking Wasim khan and the salary he gets. At the end of the day he is making good decisions and fixing every problem that previous boards created just like you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    What better results? We will see when these results translate into international success. Well they won’t we will remain a mediocre side, but you can keep hoping. Secondly, in my opinion, 6 teams are not enough for Pakistan’s population, especially when international failures but domestic lions are going to continue to hog spots.
    Yoo bro are u blind or are you just a stubborn dude that wants to be right all the time. On the previous domestic structure there was no competition which brings no quality in tournaments. Secondly not many batters scored double tons. This season many did even though the pitches were a batting friendly pitch. The change of ball made the bowlers bowl sensibly and bowl at good pace. It was hard for them to get wickets. Spinners played a role in this domestic structure. A spinner was the highest wicket taker. I'm not saying this domestic structure in the first year is perfect. They still need to improve many things like pitches and other things. That's what makes Wasim khan great that he k ows that pitches is still a problem so he used his communications skills to get Andy Atkinson to come improve the pitches.

    Like I said before dont hate and do you research before backlashing Pakistan and Wasim khan.
    Your no different than the media in Pakistan. They be saying stupid things like you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    - There is no evidence that PCB is in a much better position than it was a few years ago. It is just what you choose to believe.

    - PCB is in a desperate position, but there certain things that you cannot compromise on because other boards will continue to exploit your situation. Breaking up a Test series in two halves is ridiculous.

    The first Test will be played from 7th February to 11th February, and the second Test will be played from 5th to 9th April.

    In between the longest Test series in history, there is a one-off ODI on 3rd April.

    What nonsense is this? Is this a circus tour or a cricket tour? If splitting a two match Test series over 3 months wasn’t bad enough, there is going to be an ODI match in-between the two Tests?

    How is this acceptable and are these the famed negotiating skills of Wasim Khan? We have set a terrible precedence and other boards can look to exploit this now.

    - What do you mean we didn’t have a choice apart from Misbah? Are you suggesting that no qualified coach was interested in becoming the dual coach and selector of Pakistan?

    There are hundreds of qualified coaches in ECB. It appears that none of them were interested in working with their stalwart Wasim Khan and get an international team on their resumes.
    Then we wouldn't have a series. It's better than not having a series. This is the reason why your not Wasim Khan. There is only one legend Wasim Khan. If you were in his place which your never going to be because of the knowledge you got, you would definitely not accept this offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    My central argument is that Wasim Khan is incompetent, and I don’t need to look beyond how (a) he allowed Misbah to be on the panel that decided Arthur’s future and (b) handed the job to Misbah on a platter before advertising the role and (c) handed over the job to Misbah who literally has zero prior experience in either capacity.

    You cannot come up with better examples of incompetence and sheer lack of professionalism. These are not the actions of a half sensible man; these are the action of a con-man.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    - Wasim Khan quickly managed to land a job in the PCB with the “I want to leave England to help Pakistan cricket” drama.

    We are told that he was set to become the next ECB Chief. I saw England dodged a bullet because he would probably have turned a world champion side into Ireland.

    - He was handed the so-called reformed domestic structure by Imran Khan himself, and all he did was implement a ready-made structure.

    There are no guarantees that the structure will even work for Pakistan. It appears that we have copy pasted Shield cricket without thinking it through.

    As PM, Imran has ruined everything so I won’t be surprised if he has even managed to make our cricket even worse.

    - He allowed Misbah to decide the future of Arthur even though Misbah was in contention to replace him as coach.

    A terrible decision that exposed the incompetency and unprofessionalism of Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket”.

    - The job description for the coach/selector position was clearly designed to discourage foreign applicants. In fact, the job was already handed over to Misbah and the advertisement was only for show.

    That is why no serious candidate applied even though a dual coach/selector role is very attractive, in spite of PCB’s reputation as an employer. Coaches could see through the facade.

    - the appointment of Misbah itself was a joke. He was given the responsibility of a coach and a selector with literally zero prior experience. Is this the professionalism Mr. “I left England to help Pakistan cricket” learned during his time with the ECB?

    - as far as his famed “negation skills” are concerned that people will sing songs and write poems about, he is only capitalizing on the work done by Sethi and Shahryar Khan.

    They were the ones, especially Sethi, who set the ball rolling and opened the door for international cricket to return to Pakistan. Wasim wouldn’t have been able to convince teams if we wouldn’t have successfully hosted a few matches every year from 2015 onwards.

    He should not have accepted this nonsense of breaking up a 2 Test series over a period of 3 months. This is a cricket tour not a circus. PCB should not tolerate such disrespect if they have an ounce of dignity.

    Getting carted around by another board and getting this ridiculous schedule is not called good negotiating skills.

    Unfortunately, Pakistan cricket has reached a point where it takes absolutely nothing for the fans to get excited.

    So far, I would give Wasim Khan only 3/10 and I don’t see what he has brought to the table with all his so-called ECB experience.
    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    The question with the Misbah appointment isn't so much of what Misbah can produce - he may end up being the greatest selector / coach in the history of cricket and help Pak win multiple World Cups. The question will still be, why was someone with almost no experience appointed to not one but two of the most critical positions in Pakistan cricket.

    Outside of that hugely significant decision, Wasim has been fantastic. But his fate will always be tied to the Misbah decision

    Sorry to be intrusive; but lets look at it objectively and take into consideration two human traits, that are, living by principles and living with honesty.

    And we will quickly notice, that Wasim Khan MAY get a benefit of the doubt since he may not have been as close to Pakistan cricket (as many of us do here), to form a more solid knowledge base about Misbah and Waqar's long history with Pak cricket.

    Wasim Khan came with some ideas and in the eyes of many (including myself) showed a borderline incompetence when he gave Misbah the dual role, and shoved Waqar into the mix.

    Putting Misbah on the helm may also not be a 100% of a decision of his own. Misbah may have a fan or two in the higher ups of the PCB administration. And then politics ALWAYS plays a role behind the doors in PCB.

    This was the objective part.

    Now lets look at the principles and honesty part which I think trumps objectivity. And this is where my opinion comes in.

    The question perhaps is not whether Wasim Khan is incompetent or not? The question is: Why did Misbah apply for these positions, to being with, when he fully knew that he does not meet the advertised criteria of any of these two jobs? Deep inside in Misbah's heart, he was 100% aware that he was unqualified for both positions.

    It's like a pharmacist applying for the positions of a physician and an Engineer.

    How honest is Misbah with Pakistan cricket and how selfless is he when "supposedly" he enforced the clause in the contract where he will still get paid with this VERY HEFTY SALARY for 3 years even if he gets fired on day one?

    Does he REALLY care about Pak cricket?

    The country has given him enough. Fame, money, facilities, perks etc. Is he going to give anything back to the country, by perhaps, working on volunteer basis? lol, perhaps not even in a million years.

    IMO, Misbah should've showed some selflessness and should've worked with PCB in his existing role of the cricket committee member (where he was getting paid for his services) to find well qualified professionals for those two open positions, to begin with.

    So if we focus on how Misbah foxed his way to land on the dual role and give some benefit of the doubt to Wasim Khan, then I think Wasim Khan's achievements easily outweigh the appointment of Misbah. Which again, could not be a straight forward simple decision that he may have solely taken on his own.

    Wasim Khan also seems little more stricter than Mr. Mani who looks very, very soft of an administrator.

    I have a feeling that Wasim Khan would not be scared to fire Misbah if Misbah does not perform as promised. Which I think is a fair deal (sorry Misbah fans because, we are talking about principles and honesty).

    In a wide spectrum of incompetence that has spread all over in the PCB's administration, I think Wasim Khan could be an exception.
    I will give him at least one more year before evaluating him.

    And frankly speaking, since Misbah is here, lets deal with it.

    We can look back and keep wasting our time and energies criticizing him or we can look forward and try to make the best with what we have at hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    - There is no evidence that PCB is in a much better position than it was a few years ago. It is just what you choose to believe.

    - PCB is in a desperate position, but there certain things that you cannot compromise on because other boards will continue to exploit your situation. Breaking up a Test series in two halves is ridiculous.

    The first Test will be played from 7th February to 11th February, and the second Test will be played from 5th to 9th April.

    In between the longest Test series in history, there is a one-off ODI on 3rd April.

    What nonsense is this? Is this a circus tour or a cricket tour? If splitting a two match Test series over 3 months wasn’t bad enough, there is going to be an ODI match in-between the two Tests?

    How is this acceptable and are these the famed negotiating skills of Wasim Khan? We have set a terrible precedence and other boards can look to exploit this now.

    - What do you mean we didn’t have a choice apart from Misbah? Are you suggesting that no qualified coach was interested in becoming the dual coach and selector of Pakistan?

    There are hundreds of qualified coaches in ECB. It appears that none of them were interested in working with their stalwart Wasim Khan and get an international team on their resumes.

    You are saying as if we have best of the Diplomats before Wasim Khan. Under Wasims arleta things are moving. Remember beggars cant be chooser.
    So I say rather be happy with what's coming your way rather being unappreciative of it.
    I never said Misbah was the only choice and I never supported his appointment but Wasim khan being New at that time might have had his issues. And he has clearly mentioned that progress or result or whatever will be analysed and assessed end of the year.
    May be none of the POMS want to visit pakistan and coach here what u want wasim to do drag them by collar to pakistan.
    Stop living in a fancy world things always dont work how we want them.
    Getting Bangladesh to tour is big step forward not its upto Pakistanis to make them feel secure and safe so they come for a full tour next time.

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    I am quite impressed by Wasim Khan. This guy is possibly the best PCB chief in a long time.

    The best thing about him is he is quite cool, calm, and collected.

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    Appointing Misbah has been his biggest mistake. I'm fine with the rest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Wise thoughts, but you're talking to a group that had made their minds to hate Misbah, before he had even started.

    Shastri also had zero experience, yet he was picked by the richest board. Still is there.

    In just a few months, Misbah has delivered what Mickey Arthur couldn't in his entire tenure. Our Test team is on the rise, we've started winning comprehensively there, the team combination is very well set and our bowling stocks are so much more exciting. #3 in World Test Championship already.

    What I like about Misbah so far is he isn't afraid to experiment. Then discard the bad results. He's bold in his selections, like picking such a young pace attack.

    Then the bold declaration in Karachi.

    Whitewashed SL in ODIs too.

    Things are only going to get better.
    Totally agree. Some people on here just need something to moan about everything. Misbah is not a fool. He has support and i believe in a job like this it is a really innovative forward thinking way to handle things.

    But coz its Misbah who some of the kiddie gen think is not really a proper cricketer (their role models hit a six and a four then throw their wickets away) they have a go..lets give this regime a chance before moaning!!


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