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    [VIDEOS] New Zealand fast-bowler Kyle Jamieson - Performance Watch

    After his excellent performance on Test debut, New Zealand fast-bowling all-rounder Kyle Jamieson delved on his rapid transformation from a specialist batsman and exuded confidence about his potential to get even better.

    The 25-year-old Jamieson played as a batsman in his younger days, and it wasn't until he met the then New Zealand U19 coach Dayle Hadlee that he was asked to seriously consider focusing on fast bowling as a primary skill.

    "I was pretty much a batter all through high school and then made the New Zealand U-19s, and Dayle Hadlee got a hold of me and told me to run in, which kind of shifted me towards becoming more of a bowler," Jamieson said. "I always liked batting, it was probably what I grew up admiring the most - whilst I did bowl, I did not think of that as my career option growing up. Now I'm a bowler who can bat, trying to get to the allrounder stage, that's where I ideally want to be."

    While Jamieson impressed with his bounce and ability to extract movement in the first innings of the Wellington Test against India, where he picked up four wickets, Jamieson feels there is scope for improvement in the speed department. Jamieson operated in the 130-135 kmph range, and will be a lot more threatening proposition for batsmen if he is able to generate more steam.

    "Yeah, for sure [looking to add pace]," he said. "I'm still a long way off [from] where I want to be as a bowler and as a cricketer. The stuff that I started to work on with Auckland, with Heinrich [Malan], I think in the next year or so, I'm going to make massive strides."

    With Neil Wagner set to return to the mix after missing the first Test due to the birth of his first child, Jamieson is no certainty to play the second game at Christchurch's Hagley Oval. But, if given the chance, Jamieson would love to return to the dressing room where he spent his initial years as a domestic cricketer with Canterbury before making the move to Auckland.

    "I spent five or six years down there, pretty familiar with the ground. It's always going to be special, it played such a big part in the start of my journey, it will be nice to be back in that changeroom."


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    Kyle Jamieson is making test cricket look pretty darn easy.

    The 25-year-old justified New Zealand's decision to stick with him for the second test against India in Christchurch on Saturday, taking his first five wicket bag in test cricket.

    New Zealand stewed over whether to hand a second test to Jamieson or go with left-arm spinner Ajaz Patel on a green seamer at Hagley Oval, but stuck with Jamieson.

    He repaid their faith in spades, powering through the Indian batsmen in the final session. Jamieson captured 5-45 from 14 overs as India were rolled for 242 in 63 overs to put New Zealand in early control of the second test.

    New Zealand capped off a convincing first day, finishing 63-0 from 23 overs in reply at stumps.

    It was far from a polished bowling performance from New Zealand, especially in the first session, but Jamieson was superb as India lost wickets at key stages throughout the day. India were 194-5 at tea, but lost their last five wickets for 48 runs.

    Backing up his 4-39 from the first innings in Wellington on test debut, Jamieson, whose domestic career started with Canterbury, starred again at his former Hagley home.

    The Auckland man could do little wrong in the final session, snaring four wickets as India fell apart with the bat.

    Jamieson has taken nine wickets for 129 runs at 14.3 through three innings of test cricket and been a headache for India.

    The rot started with mainstay Cheteshwar Pujara, who was out softly to Jamieson, hooking a top edge up to wicketkeeper BJ Watling. Pujara had batted patiently getting through to 54, but threw his wicket away in reckless fashion.

    Rishabh Pant played attacking strokes and had a life when he was dropped by Colin de Grandhomme at midwicket. His luck ran out when he chopped on off Jamieson, departing for 12.

    Jamieson wasn't done there and made further inroads with Ravindra Jadeja caught at fine leg and Umesh Yadav caught behind.

    Earlier in the day, Tim Southee again proved Indian superstar and captain Virat Kohli's nemesis.

    No bowler in world cricket has captured Kohli's wicket more in all formats than senior paceman Southee, who nabbed the Indian great for the 10th time.

    Southee produced a defining moment in India's first innings, trapping Kohli plumb in front of his stumps for three in the second over after lunch.

    New dad Neil Wagner ended a pesky 81-run partnership between Pujara and Hanuma Vihari, dismissing Vihari with what proved the final ball before tea.

    Kohli wasted India's last remaining review with a decision that was never going to be overturned earlier in the second session.

    Kohli has made most bowlers look silly throughout his illustrious career, but Saturday's scalp was the 10th time Southee has taken his wicket in 31 matches.

    England veteran James Anderson and retired offspinner Graeme Swann both captured Kohli eight times.

    This was the third time in five tests Southee has removed Kohli. The right-arm quick has also got rid of Kohli six times in 20 ODIs and once in six T20s.

    Kohli, who hasn't brought up a century in 21 innings in all forms, has endured a rough tour of New Zealand.

    His failure in Christchurch means he's scored 204 runs on this tour at 20.4, well below what is expected of the world's premier batsman.

    In the first test in Wellington, Kohli contributed just two and 19 in India's 10 wicket thumping.

    It got worse for India with Southee striking again eight overs later, dismissing Ajinkya Rahane, who edged to Ross Taylor at first slip for seven.

    India looked like they were fighting back through Pujara and Vihari, but then Wagner struck as he so often does.

    Wagner won the battle of attrition with Vihari, gloving a short ball through to Watling for 55. Watling had dropped Vihari on 13 off Jamieson.

    India undid their good work from the first session after lunch as New Zealand seized the ascendancy.

    Arriving in Christchurch 1-0 up in the two-test series, skipper Kane Williamson won the all important toss on a green seamer. After being dismissed for under 200 in both innings in Wellington, India's batsmen started positively.

    New Zealand's seamers struggled early on, battling for their line and length and tossing up too many short deliveries.

    India got through six overs unscathed until Trent Boult made the first breakthrough, removing Mayank Agarwal lbw for seven.

    Agarwal reviewed the decision, but was sent on his way with Boult's full swinging delivery hitting leg stump.


    Highly-rated youngster Prithvi Shaw showed his intent early, getting the better of the New Zealand bowlers and keeping the scoreboard ticking over - something which didn't happen in Wellington.

    Shaw had been impressive getting through to 54 from 64 balls until Jamieson struck with a crucial blow 16 minutes prior to lunch.

    Tom Latham pulled off a stunning one-handed left hand grab at second slip to end Shaw's promising innings, which included eight fours and a six.

    That would be just the very start for Jamieson.

    AT A GLANCE:

    Most Virat Kohli dismissals in all formats:

    Tim Southee (NZ) 10 times in 31 matches.

    James Anderson (Eng) 8 times in 29 matches.

    Graeme Swann (Eng) 8 times in 16 matches.

    Morne Morkel (SA) 7 times in 29 matches.

    Nathan Lyon (Aus) 7 times in 25 matches.

    Adam Zampa (Aus) 7 times in 21 matches.

    Ravi Rampaul (WI) 7 times in 17 matches.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricke...aps-on-day-one


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    Has the potential to be the next great NZ all rounder.

    Tall, solid with the bat and can hit it a long way. He's a tough cricketer which I love, he digs in and has that x factor which allows him to be successful and pick up crucial wickets and score runs.


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    Looks a good bet for to become an excellent 3rd seamer, especially on the bouncier tracks and has the makings of a good 8 as a batsman.

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    Gem of a player.

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    In the first test he was operating between 130-135kph but in the second test he bowled some deliveries at 140+.If he can bowl closd to 140 then he will be very dangerous.

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    Excellent prospect.


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    If you see Prithvi Shaw dismissal. That was purely due to his height and the ball bouncing from a good length due to trajectory.

    Poor shot by Prithvi to take a risk and drive that ball.

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    All newbies should debut against India, we always put them on a pedestal

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    How good is this guy!!

    Golden nugget of an all-rounder.

    Canít wait to watch him continue to develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    How good is this guy!!

    Golden nugget of an all-rounder.

    Can’t wait to watch him continue to develop.
    Scored a century off 111 balls against England too

    Anderson, Wood and Broad played in that game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leg-side-flick View Post
    All newbies should debut against India, we always put them on a pedestal
    He smashed a century against England in warm ups too.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricke...urreal-century


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    No mug with the bat too.

    Looks like a very decent cricketer.



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    He is only missing one attribute right now- Pace. If he can start bowling 140kph plus consistently he will become absolutely lethal.

    Seems like a tough competitor with both bat and ball. Excellent prospect for NZ.

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    Just got a hattrick for Auckland, I'm sure he is gonna give our batsmen a lot of nightmares in a couple months time lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahson8 View Post
    Just got a hattrick for Auckland, I'm sure he is gonna give our batsmen a lot of nightmares in a couple months time lol.
    We and the Windies are gonna lose so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahson8 View Post
    Just got a hattrick for Auckland, I'm sure he is gonna give our batsmen a lot of nightmares in a couple months time lol.
    novelty factor. I am not particularly impressed with his skillset. he has good batting ability.
    Until he plays outside n.z we cant judge his ability. when he tours asia it will test his real aukat. Till then he can enjoy his success. He may turn out to be really good outside n.z too. i dont know but his bowling skillset with his pace isnt impressive and i feel he will get carted in asia badly.

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    The hattrick ball was a beautiful delivery.

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    In 138 years, there have been only seven first-class hat-tricks for Auckland - and now three of them have taken place at Eden Park Outer Oval in the last four seasons.

    BLACKCAPS paceman Kyle Jamieson joined his Auckland Aces squad-mates Matt McEwan (2017/18 v ND) and Ben Lister (2018/19 v Otago Volts) in achieving the rare feat with a sensational over against the Central Stags early on day two.

    Using a lethal combination of his height, in-swing, and immaculate length, Jamieson had Tom Bruce caught in the slips, yorked Dane Cleaver next ball, and then produced a late-swinging pearler for the hat-trick, jagging it back in to knock out Brad Schmulian's off stump and secure his first hat. After George Worker (53) and Doug Bracewell fought to rebuild the Stags' innings, Jamieson came back to break them up and seal his third five-wicket bag in as many first-class matches (including last summer's Test against India).

    Dismissing the Stags for 150 gave the Aces a frail 15-run first innings lead, but a century stand between opening batsman Graeme Beghin (55) and first drop Glenn Phillips (66) helped get it growing. By stumps, the lead had grown to 215 with the Aces to resume at 198/5 on the third day.

    First innings points (complete): Central Stags 4, Auckland Aces 4


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    Looks more than decent in sena


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post



    In 138 years, there have been only seven first-class hat-tricks for Auckland - and now three of them have taken place at Eden Park Outer Oval in the last four seasons.

    BLACKCAPS paceman Kyle Jamieson joined his Auckland Aces squad-mates Matt McEwan (2017/18 v ND) and Ben Lister (2018/19 v Otago Volts) in achieving the rare feat with a sensational over against the Central Stags early on day two.

    Using a lethal combination of his height, in-swing, and immaculate length, Jamieson had Tom Bruce caught in the slips, yorked Dane Cleaver next ball, and then produced a late-swinging pearler for the hat-trick, jagging it back in to knock out Brad Schmulian's off stump and secure his first hat. After George Worker (53) and Doug Bracewell fought to rebuild the Stags' innings, Jamieson came back to break them up and seal his third five-wicket bag in as many first-class matches (including last summer's Test against India).

    Dismissing the Stags for 150 gave the Aces a frail 15-run first innings lead, but a century stand between opening batsman Graeme Beghin (55) and first drop Glenn Phillips (66) helped get it growing. By stumps, the lead had grown to 215 with the Aces to resume at 198/5 on the third day.

    First innings points (complete): Central Stags 4, Auckland Aces 4
    Thought he was going to whip out the Hassan Ali celebration after the first wicket.

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    Had taken a 5fer in earlier match.....one to watch out for

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    novelty factor. I am not particularly impressed with his skillset. he has good batting ability.
    Until he plays outside n.z we cant judge his ability. when he tours asia it will test his real aukat. Till then he can enjoy his success. He may turn out to be really good outside n.z too. i dont know but his bowling skillset with his pace isnt impressive and i feel he will get carted in asia badly.
    He isn't express pace, bowls in the mid 130s but swings it both ways and gets good bounce because of his 6'8 height, he is taking heaps of wickets at every level, NZ fans have every reason to be excited about him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahson8 View Post
    He isn't express pace, bowls in the mid 130s but swings it both ways and gets good bounce because of his 6'8 height, he is taking heaps of wickets at every level, NZ fans have every reason to be excited about him
    He's probably mad that Jamieson destroyed India earlier in the year. I have no problem accepting the fact that he will destroy us too.

    his height ensures he'll be decent on any wicket, even in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    He's probably mad that Jamieson destroyed India earlier in the year. I have no problem accepting the fact that he will destroy us too.

    his height ensures he'll be decent on any wicket, even in Asia.
    Not really. I am not mad at all. If he does well in Asia I will respect him but I don't think his skillset allows him to do well in Asia.

    I am talking about skills plus his pace is mediocre. It's also a novelty factor. When teams start to study him more he will get found out
    Some great players like rabada have gotten demolished in asia. So no reason why an inferior bowler like Kyle wouldn't get carted.

    He may do well but I have doubts.

    He will be king in n.z, english condtions though. For sure. Probably in South Africa too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahson8 View Post
    He isn't express pace, bowls in the mid 130s but swings it both ways and gets good bounce because of his 6'8 height, he is taking heaps of wickets at every level, NZ fans have every reason to be excited about him
    It is exactly what Akif Javed can do.....tall can swing.....will be handy in any condition

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    He's probably mad that Jamieson destroyed India earlier in the year. I have no problem accepting the fact that he will destroy us too.

    his height ensures he'll be decent on any wicket, even in Asia.
    He thinks Siraj Khaleel Nagarjuna Nagarkoti are leaps and bounds ahead of Rauf Hasnain Jamieson and any other upcoming pacers....LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    Not really. I am not mad at all. If he does well in Asia I will respect him but I don't think his skillset allows him to do well in Asia.

    I am talking about skills plus his pace is mediocre. It's also a novelty factor. When teams start to study him more he will get found out
    Some great players like rabada have gotten demolished in asia. So no reason why an inferior bowler like Kyle wouldn't get carted.

    He may do well but I have doubts.

    He will be king in n.z, english condtions though. For sure. Probably in South Africa too.
    In t20 any bowler can get carted with short boundaries and flat wickets......

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    He thinks Siraj Khaleel Nagarjuna Nagarkoti are leaps and bounds ahead of Rauf Hasnain Jamieson and any other upcoming pacers....LOL
    Rauf hsunanin are trash. Utter trash in red ball. Jamieson is actually good. Can't compare those 2 clowns to jammo. Jammo don't think can do well outside Sena. His skillset isn't vast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    In t20 any bowler can get carted with short boundaries and flat wickets......
    What's that got to do with Jamieson?

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    Watch out Pakistan!

    ===

    FOUR BAGS IN FOUR GAMES FOR 'KILLER' KYLE


    Ascendant paceman Kyle Jamieson (5-85) nailed it yet again with his fourth five-wicket bag in the space of four first-class matches, a remarkable sequence beginning with last summer's BLACKCAPS Test haul against India. Jamieson helped the Aces bounce back from a tough Day Two at the Basin as the visitors finally dismissed the Firebirds for 446. After having batted almost all the previous day together, the two rocks of the Wellington innings fell with 15 balls of each other on the third morning with Michael Bracewell's first Plunket Shield century for Wellington ending on 142 and Devon Conway next to depart after reaching 157. With a 167-run first innings deficit, the Aces reached stumps having whittled that down to 58 with eight wickets in hand.


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    Pakistan may have heaved a sigh of relief about Ferguson but this guy will pose other problems!


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    Kyle Jamieson might repeat what Duanne Olivier did to the Pakistani batsmen.


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    Kyle Jamieson is a pretty solid all-rounder. He has height, has decent pace, and most importantly, he bowls in the areas which are bound to cause trouble for batsmen. These are green pitches, and the mistake West Indies made was not bowling in good channels, which was very pathetic to see.

    He is a seriously good talent, both with the bat and ball. Pakistan players must have no technical faults in order to withstand him because he will trouble almost all of our batsmen. We need to see off the new ball without losing any wickets, and then perhaps, it will be on the middle order to get runs. My expectation from the top order is to see off the new ball without causing a hassle or playing at deliveries that should be left (ABID ALI).

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    Boult, Southee, Wagner, Jamieson on home turf are a seriously good attack. Tough series ahead for our batsmen.


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    He's so good.

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    He will show full badtamezi to our batsmen

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    Remember Olivier?

    well


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    really good bowler, will play a long time if he stays fit. pak will have there hands full with these four, no let up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebat View Post
    Boult, Southee, Wagner, Jamieson on home turf are a seriously good attack. Tough series ahead for our batsmen.
    That is a mouth watering attack. Southee and Boult alone could run through the best batting line up in the World on their day. Add Wagner and Jamieson to the line up and there's just no let up. I just don't get how, in a country of 7 million people whose main passion is Rugby, New Zealand can produce 4 fantastic fast bowlers on top of one of the greatest batsmen ever in Williamson. Not to mention that the rest of the team aren't bad either!

    They're also the World's best rugby team too. They've got the World's best Prime Minister, the World's best scenery, the World's best response to Corona. New Zealand is a freak!
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    Some bowler Jamieson!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman View Post
    That is a mouth watering attack. Southee and Boult alone could run through the best batting line up in the World on their day. Add Wagner and Jamieson to the line up and there's just no let up. I just don't get how, in a country of 7 million people whose main passion is Rugby, New Zealand can produce 4 fantastic fast bowlers on top of one of the greatest batsmen ever in Williamson. Not to mention that the rest of the team aren't bad either!

    They're also the World's best rugby team too. They've got the World's best Prime Minister, the World's best scenery, the World's best response to Corona. New Zealand is a freak!
    Also world's best UFC middleweight fighter. Israel Adesanya. They are a sporting nation that's why. They have a sporting culture and schools have good facilities to accentuate growth in developing talents for sports.

    They have a lot of resources for a small population which obviously helps.

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    The ball that came back in for the wicket was outstanding

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    Pakistan must play out of their skins and new zealand must perform below par for pakistan to have any chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by UzmanBeast View Post
    Kyle Jamieson is a pretty solid all-rounder. He has height, has decent pace, and most importantly, he bowls in the areas which are bound to cause trouble for batsmen. These are green pitches, and the mistake West Indies made was not bowling in good channels, which was very pathetic to see.

    He is a seriously good talent, both with the bat and ball. Pakistan players must have no technical faults in order to withstand him because he will trouble almost all of our batsmen. We need to see off the new ball without losing any wickets, and then perhaps, it will be on the middle order to get runs. My expectation from the top order is to see off the new ball without causing a hassle or playing at deliveries that should be left (ABID ALI).
    Pakistan must bowl first thats thier only chance i think if we bat first we will be bowl out for less than 250 max their bowling is world class but i think if we bowl first we can restrict them to under 300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Pakistan must bowl first thats thier only chance i think if we bat first we will be bowl out for less than 250 max their bowling is world class but i think if we bowl first we can restrict them to under 300.
    True, but West Indies made a big mistake bowling first and not making the most of line-length bowling. Our attack is similarly inexperienced, but hopefully we can strike early with Abbas and Shaheen. Naseem should bowl as the first change in my opinion and should bowl short-pitched at the body, where he has the best chance of getting wickets and threatening batsmen. Our spinner, who should be Shadab, should be used sparingly on the first two days of the pitch. If Amad Butt is played, I'd make him the first change and he could bowl with the older ball along with Naseem.

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    2016 it was de Grandhomme and in 2020 it's going be Jamieson who'll be Pakistan's bogeyman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Some bowler Jamieson!

    Shades of Waqar, wow what a beauty!

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    Why are people comparing CDG to Jamieson? CDG has never looked as impressive as Jamieson lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Why are people comparing CDG to Jamieson? CDG has never looked as impressive as Jamieson lol.
    Yep the only real similarity they have is their all rounders lol. Jaimeson is a far better overall and he will wreck us for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UzmanBeast View Post
    True, but West Indies made a big mistake bowling first and not making the most of line-length bowling. Our attack is similarly inexperienced, but hopefully we can strike early with Abbas and Shaheen. Naseem should bowl as the first change in my opinion and should bowl short-pitched at the body, where he has the best chance of getting wickets and threatening batsmen. Our spinner, who should be Shadab, should be used sparingly on the first two days of the pitch. If Amad Butt is played, I'd make him the first change and he could bowl with the older ball along with Naseem.
    I think shaheen and abbas will be able to hit a length espically abbas with naseem hr willl bowl some brutal deliveries but he may not hit the length ball in ball out. yes thsts what i would eith naseem first change and short fast spells but he can only do that if thier are 4 fast bowlers and a spinner

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    Abbas will need to ne nice & full- a bit fuller than his killer UAE length days.

    Shaheen to will need to find the same- the ball WILL move off the green deck so no point bashing it in short with the new ball.

    Naseem will get carted if he tries to blast out NZ with bouncers. What Wagner does isn't easy, he mixes up the pace, rolls his fingers sometimes, always gets his full "sucker ball" just tempting the drive & gets his bouncers right on track. He can try that as Plan B, sure for a 4 over spell. But he'd be better off as a cricketer learning to bowl the right length & move the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Viper View Post
    Yep the only real similarity they have is their all rounders lol. Jaimeson is a far better overall and he will wreck us for sure.
    Exactly this. Jamieson has been much more impressive at domestic level so his performances shouldn't be much of a surprise. It's just amazing how he has come out of nowhere. Not many knew about him.

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    Yes if Sena players perform in Sena conditions they are world class already

    But Asia players perform in Asia, they are just overrated Asia specilaists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Some bowler Jamieson!

    This wicket underscores the flaw with modern backlifts, with batsmen holding the bat high above the ground as default. While this stance allows them to prosper in limited overs cricket as the white ball doesn't swing that much, in red ball cricket it leaves them vulnerable to in-swinging deliveries at a decent pace.

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    I hope PCB has managed to provide the players with footage of him.

    Waiting for a comment after he does well "we did not have any videos of him".



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    6 ft 5 + bowler.

    Must be @Junaids fav.

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    A second stretch limousine ride up Wellington’s Mt Victoria in the space of 10 months seemed entirely fitting for Kyle Jamieson, New Zealand Cricket’s latest rock star.

    Now, after a few days off in Auckland, Jamieson will return to Black Caps Twenty20 colours against Pakistan with coach Gary Stead tipping the 2.04m giant will make a big impact in the shortest format, too.

    Jamieson was named player of the series for his deeds in the Black Caps’ 2-0 test victory over West Indies, both wins by an innings in Hamilton and Wellington.

    Black Caps clean up the West Indies tail to secure a 2-0 series win at Basin Reserve.
    The 25-year-old’s numbers after four tests were phenomenal: 20 wickets at 14.55 and 164 runs at 54.66, even if Stead insisted Jamieson was not yet ready to bat higher than No 8 in the test side.

    Jamieson’s deeds with the ball in Wellington, when he took 7-77 for the match, moved former captain Brendon McCullum to say on Spark Sport he hadn’t been as excited about a newcomer since a young Kane Williamson.

    The man himself squeezed into the limo on Monday for five laps of the country’s biggest traffic roundabout then a cruise to the summit, alongside Tim Southee, Trent Boult, Neil Wagner, Daryl Mitchell, BJ Watling and bowling coach Shane Jurgensen.

    The traditional ride for bowlers and wicketkeeper to celebrate a Wellington test win was first established in 1998, and carried Jamieson for the first time after his debut against India in February.

    Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson each snared five wickets in the first innings, a feat achieved only twice previously by New Zealand bowlers.

    Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson each snared five wickets in the first innings, a feat achieved only twice previously by New Zealand bowlers.

    Stead said Jamieson was level-headed and wouldn’t get carried away with the plaudits. Before he gets a chance to extend his test record at Bay Oval on Boxing Day, Jamieson will add to his two T20 appearances in games two and three against Pakistan on Sunday (Hamilton) and Tuesday (Napier).

    “Every format he’s played he’s made an impact so far. Against West Indies [in T20] he had a reasonably difficult first game which many bowlers do at Eden Park, then turned it around at the Mount and had a fantastic match there as well,” Stead said.

    “We all know T20 can be fickle but Kyle has some attributes and skills that other people don’t have. Just simply being 6 foot 8 and delivering the ball from about 9 feet is different in itself. You’ve seen many batsmen when he gets it right, they struggle with that. That’s his competitive advantage and I hope he can take in some of the form I’ve seen in Super Smash over the last three or four years.

    “He had a 6-7 [for Canterbury against Auckland in January 2019] and can turn that into international performances as well. He certainly has a lot of the skills and attributes that are really exciting for us for the long run.”

    Kyle Jamieson has all the tools to be a successful T20 international bowler after his test match heroics, says coach Gary Stead.

    Kyle Jamieson has all the tools to be a successful T20 international bowler after his test match heroics, says coach Gary Stead.
    Along with sharp pace and steep bounce from his lofty release point, Jamieson’s ability to produce a devastating inswinger then take the ball away from the right-hander was the most impressive aspect.

    Formerly an opening batsman at first XI level, Jamieson continues to move towards test allrounder status of the injured Colin de Grandhomme or Daryl Mitchell, although Stead added a note of caution.

    “Kyle’s making every post a winner and the thing that impresses me most about him is his ability to want to keep getting better and not being satisfied with where he’s at right now.

    “If he continues to do that then hopefully in future we can discuss, is he good enough to bat in that No 7 position? Not sure he’s quite there just yet, but he’s certainly doing everything he can to push for that genuine allrounder’s spot.”

    For the first test against Pakistan it would be difficult to imagine changes to the winning lineup, although spin could enter the equation via Mitchell Santner or Ajaz Patel (calf) who is undergoing fitness tests this week.

    Stead doubted the Bay Oval pitch would be similar to the England test last year which was sun-baked and took turn for Santner as the Black Caps won on day five.

    “From being there earlier this season it [Bay Oval] didn’t look quite the same, it looked like it had a lot more grass covering,” Stead said.

    Another heavily grassed surface to suit the home pace attack would be the safest bet, with Pakistan having an interrupted buildup and p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman View Post
    That is a mouth watering attack. Southee and Boult alone could run through the best batting line up in the World on their day. Add Wagner and Jamieson to the line up and there's just no let up. I just don't get how, in a country of 7 million people whose main passion is Rugby, New Zealand can produce 4 fantastic fast bowlers on top of one of the greatest batsmen ever in Williamson. Not to mention that the rest of the team aren't bad either!

    They're also the World's best rugby team too. They've got the World's best Prime Minister, the World's best scenery, the World's best response to Corona. New Zealand is a freak!
    Newzealand is a wealthy country with plenty of open space and infrastructure. So its no surprise.
    An athletic Kiwi or Aussie kid will have better diet,better access to good quality coaching, parents who understand sports and have the means to spend for it and would definitely have less-corrupt and more structured sports organizations than an athletic desi kid.

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    Been watching the highlights from the NZ-IND series and seeing Jamieson for the first time.

    He's not express but gets the ball to move in the air and off the seam, and his height means he extracts awkward bounce from a good length. Handy batsman too with those long levers.

    Definitely the sort of pacer who'd trouble Pakistan. Whether he can replicate his success outside NZ depends if he continues to expand his skillset and stays fit.

    A great addition to the NZ seam attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    Also world's best UFC middleweight fighter. Israel Adesanya. They are a sporting nation that's why. They have a sporting culture and schools have good facilities to accentuate growth in developing talents for sports.

    They have a lot of resources for a small population which obviously helps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Newzealand is a wealthy country with plenty of open space and infrastructure. So its no surprise.
    An athletic Kiwi or Aussie kid will have better diet,better access to good quality coaching, parents who understand sports and have the means to spend for it and would definitely have less-corrupt and more structured sports organizations than an athletic desi kid.
    I agree totally with the fact that NZ is a wealthy country with lots of resources, open spaces, good diets, parents who can afford for children to pursue their dreams etc etc. However even after all of that, a population of 4.8 million is really, really small and to produce this level of success with a population that small is nothing short of spectacular.

    I thought the population was 7m when writing my last post but having Googled it, it's even smaller than that.

    Take England for example - the UK has a population of 66 million. Granted that includes Scotland and Northern Island but any serious cricketer from those places will play for England so the English pool is basically the whole of the UK. With a a pool almost 14 times bigger than New Zealand, the English team should be very, very significantly better than the New Zealand one. Yet New Zeland lost the World Cup against England on some technical rule about boundaries. The reality is that New Zealand could not be distinguished from England.

    Granted overall England is a probably a better team, but not by much. Certainly nowhere near the margin it should be, given the vast difference in populations.

    Once again, to put this in context, the population of London alone is about 8.9million. So it's like New Zealand has to put a national team together choosing only from a little over half of London's population. Plus out of the few that are good enough, many will be unavailable because they choose to pursue their national sport, Rugby. On paper, this team should be no better than a minnow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman View Post
    I agree totally with the fact that NZ is a wealthy country with lots of resources, open spaces, good diets, parents who can afford for children to pursue their dreams etc etc. However even after all of that, a population of 4.8 million is really, really small and to produce this level of success with a population that small is nothing short of spectacular.

    I thought the population was 7m when writing my last post but having Googled it, it's even smaller than that.

    Take England for example - the UK has a population of 66 million. Granted that includes Scotland and Northern Island but any serious cricketer from those places will play for England so the English pool is basically the whole of the UK. With a a pool almost 14 times bigger than New Zealand, the English team should be very, very significantly better than the New Zealand one. Yet New Zeland lost the World Cup against England on some technical rule about boundaries. The reality is that New Zealand could not be distinguished from England.

    Granted overall England is a probably a better team, but not by much. Certainly nowhere near the margin it should be, given the vast difference in populations.

    Once again, to put this in context, the population of London alone is about 8.9million. So it's like New Zealand has to put a national team together choosing only from a little over half of London's population. Plus out of the few that are good enough, many will be unavailable because they choose to pursue their national sport, Rugby. On paper, this team should be no better than a minnow.
    Find out how many people actually play cricket at club level and you will be surprised to see the difference between them two nations to be minimal.

    New Zealand is just a very sporty nation because they have facilities, resources and accessibility to best nutrition, diet etc.

    Asian countries lack these facilities. So imo it's more impressive imo that Asians despite their limited resources and poor standard of living have managed to be a top sides like India and Pakistan in the history of cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman View Post
    I agree totally with the fact that NZ is a wealthy country with lots of resources, open spaces, good diets, parents who can afford for children to pursue their dreams etc etc. However even after all of that, a population of 4.8 million is really, really small and to produce this level of success with a population that small is nothing short of spectacular.

    I thought the population was 7m when writing my last post but having Googled it, it's even smaller than that.

    Take England for example - the UK has a population of 66 million. Granted that includes Scotland and Northern Island but any serious cricketer from those places will play for England so the English pool is basically the whole of the UK. With a a pool almost 14 times bigger than New Zealand, the English team should be very, very significantly better than the New Zealand one. Yet New Zeland lost the World Cup against England on some technical rule about boundaries. The reality is that New Zealand could not be distinguished from England.

    Granted overall England is a probably a better team, but not by much. Certainly nowhere near the margin it should be, given the vast difference in populations.

    Once again, to put this in context, the population of London alone is about 8.9million. So it's like New Zealand has to put a national team together choosing only from a little over half of London's population. Plus out of the few that are good enough, many will be unavailable because they choose to pursue their national sport, Rugby. On paper, this team should be no better than a minnow.
    Find out how many people actually play cricket at club level and you will be surprised to see the difference between them two nations to be minimal.

    New Zealand is just a very sporty nation because they have facilities, resources and accessibility to best nutrition, diet etc.

    Asian countries lack these facilities. So imo it's more impressive imo that Asians despite their limited resources and poor standard of living have managed to be a top sides like India and Pakistan in the history of cricket.

    But yea England vs n.z.

    Lot of too atheltes from England will prefer soccer as it isn't and elitist sport.

    In India too only elitist schools have access to proper red ball/white ball cricket. Yea lot of them play tape ball and other rubbish tennis ball cricket. But proper cricket at its purest form for international level is far too expensive for the average Indian.

    Only elitist or upper middle class people can afford to play cricket in England. So you won't get the best atheltes playing cricket. Best atheltes imo are always found and groomed from the streets who has exposure to hard labour work from a young age etc.

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    He looks like the best prospect to come out of New Zealand after Williamson. So good.. if we donít prepare well, he can potentially stream roll us

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    Find out how many people actually play cricket at club level and you will be surprised to see the difference between them two nations to be minimal.

    New Zealand is just a very sporty nation because they have facilities, resources and accessibility to best nutrition, diet etc.

    Asian countries lack these facilities. So imo it's more impressive imo that Asians despite their limited resources and poor standard of living have managed to be a top sides like India and Pakistan in the history of cricket.

    But yea England vs n.z.

    Lot of too atheltes from England will prefer soccer as it isn't and elitist sport.

    In India too only elitist schools have access to proper red ball/white ball cricket. Yea lot of them play tape ball and other rubbish tennis ball cricket. But proper cricket at its purest form for international level is far too expensive for the average Indian.

    Only elitist or upper middle class people can afford to play cricket in England. So you won't get the best atheltes playing cricket. Best atheltes imo are always found and groomed from the streets who has exposure to hard labour work from a young age etc.
    I get that NZ is very sporty and they have every resource in the World available to them, in a way the majority of the Asian countries don't.

    However Pakistan has a population of 212 million and India has a monster population of 1.35 billion. So New Zealand doesn't have some distinct advantage because the number of wealthy people in India will far outstrip the whole population of New Zealand by 10s of millions if not 100m, plus. These wealthy people will also have access to the best facilities, diets etc. Add to that, out of the hundreds of millions of poor people, some will be good enough and lucky enough to make it to the top. So a country like India will have a mix of the best of the elite plus a whole heap of less privileged players who've beaten the odds to reach the top.

    I have to maintain therefore that it's significantly more impressive that NZ manages to put together a highly competitive team, even with all their wealth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman View Post
    I get that NZ is very sporty and they have every resource in the World available to them, in a way the majority of the Asian countries don't.

    However Pakistan has a population of 212 million and India has a monster population of 1.35 billion. So New Zealand doesn't have some distinct advantage because the number of wealthy people in India will far outstrip the whole population of New Zealand by 10s of millions if not 100m, plus. These wealthy people will also have access to the best facilities, diets etc. Add to that, out of the hundreds of millions of poor people, some will be good enough and lucky enough to make it to the top. So a country like India will have a mix of the best of the elite plus a whole heap of less privileged players who've beaten the odds to reach the top.

    I have to maintain therefore that it's significantly more impressive that NZ manages to put together a highly competitive team, even with all their wealth.
    Not really. You need to live in the country to understand the opporunitites that present itself.

    India are very limited in resources for an extremely large population.

    There is corruption, nepotism and other barriers to break through. Marketability is another whole new ball game.

    In n.z these barriers exist in a very minute scale.

    Privileged doesn't mean better. Besides the privileged in India don't care for sport. Indian parents don't push their kids to play sport. Besides India don't have access to any gold class facilities.

    Kiwi parents love sport and are very involved in their kids sporting development. It's about sporting culture too.

    Average Indian standard of living is poor including he average cricketer in India. Access to diet and nutrition is poor.

    It is getting better slowly but these things take time.

    So it's more impressive to me that India is still such a powerhouse despite all the lack of resources.

    New Zealand have a large resource pool for a small number of talented individuals. That's a huge advantage actually.

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    Not really. You need to live in the country to understand the opporunitites that present itself.

    India are very limited in resources for an extremely large population.

    There is corruption, nepotism and other barriers to break through. Marketability is another whole new ball game.

    In n.z these barriers exist in a very minute scale.

    Privileged doesn't mean better. Besides the privileged in India don't care for sport. Indian parents don't push their kids to play sport. Besides India don't have access to any gold class facilities.

    Kiwi parents love sport and are very involved in their kids sporting development. It's about sporting culture too.

    Average Indian standard of living is poor including he average cricketer in India. Access to diet and nutrition is poor.

    It is getting better slowly but these things take time.

    So it's more impressive to me that India is still such a powerhouse despite all the lack of resources.

    New Zealand have a large resource pool for a small number of talented individuals. That's a huge advantage actually.
    There is competition for other sports also in NZ. If 20 years later, India find a shift in the popularity from cricket to football, then you will see the wealthier part of the country start losing interest in the game of cricket.

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    New Zealand fast bowler Kyle Jamieson has been fined 25 per cent of his match fee for breaching Level 1 of the ICC Code of Conduct during the third day of the first Test against Pakistan in Tauranga.

    Jamieson was found to have breached Article 2.9 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, which relates to throwing a ball at or near a player in an inappropriate and/or dangerous manner during an international match.

    In addition to this, one demerit point has been added to the disciplinary record of Jamieson, for whom it was the first offence in a 24-month period.

    The incident occurred in the 75th over of Pakistanís first innings on Monday, when Jamieson, after fielding the ball on his follow through, threw it in the direction of Faheem Ashraf at high speed when the batsman was away from the stumps but within the popping crease and not intending to take a run.

    Jamieson admitted the offence and accepted the sanction proposed by Jeff Crowe of the Emirates ICC Elite Panel of Match Referees and ratified by the ICC Cricket Operations department as per the COVID-19 interim playing regulations. There was no need for a formal hearing.

    On-field umpires Chris Gaffaney and Wayne Knights, third umpire Chris Brown and fourth official Shaun Haig levelled the charges.

    Level 1 breaches carry a minimum penalty of an official reprimand, a maximum penalty of 50 per cent of a playerís match fee, and one or two demerit points.


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    5/69 against Pakistan in 2nd Test - becoming quite a star!


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    Kyle Jamieson = Joel Garner 2.0?

    I believe this guy will become the #1 in the world soon and also he will be one of the best bowlers in history. I know Pakistan have a fragile batting lineup but put any of the current batting lineup against him and he will destroy them. On tracks that offer him any sort of bounce advantage - good luck. NZ have found an absolute gem.

    What do you all think?

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    I will be interested to see how he does outside NZ.

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    he is another McGrath

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    Let him be successful against top teams first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohan View Post
    Let him be successful against top teams first.
    He did pretty well against India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    He did pretty well against India.
    There are other top teams too brother. Joel Garner is a big name, legend.
    A bowler/batsman needs to perform consistently against top teams in different conditions.

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    The extra bounce and you combine with great line/length and seaming the ball both aways is a deadly combination.

    If he wasn't there then we would have scored a lot more runs than this, such was his impact.

  78. #77
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    This guy is a future ATG.

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    Too early to say but he definitely has the skill set. He’s got movement, sets up batsmen with probing lengths, bangs it in (goes without saying when you’re that tall)- most of all he isn’t brainless, smart bowler.

    But so far he has feasted on guys like Anda Masood and co, so we’ll see how he does outside of NZ. I think he’ll do well, but let’s see

  80. #79
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    Future all time great. Can swing the ball like crazy, awkward bounce, can bat, fit and tall. Has it all.

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    He debuted 2 years too late. Looks a million dollars.
    His Inswing is insane along with the short stuff.

    Lets see if he can reverse the ball

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