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    BTB: How do Pakistan go about preparing to beat England in England in the upcoming Test series?

    Thanks to @Thunderbolt14 for this write up.




    At long last, Pakistanís 29-man squad has been announced for the much-awaited tour of England and whilst it would be easy to pick faults in the choice of players, there is an overwhelming feeling that on balance Misbah-ul-Haq has made reasonable choices for which he deserves some credit.

    It would have been tough for Misbah as there was significant push-back and pressures from all corners, and a lot of it is very justified especially when it refers to the return of some older players, the continuation of specific mentalities and what seems superficially like a defensive mindset approach. And then there was the selection of an untried youngster in the shape of Haider Ali.

    The young batsman who represented Peshawar Zalmi in PSL5 was by no means a surety for this tour until recently he was added in the Emerging category in the Central Contracts and whilst the media may have feigned shock and horror at this selection, the fact is that his selection was a must the moment he was picked for that category Ė not taking him to England would surely have been a great disservice and thankfully the right decision was made.

    But there are understandably some areas of concern that must also be mentioned and the foremost in that is the continued faith in Imran Khan which is simply baffling and of course the ďout of the blueĒ inclusion of Sohail Khan. And itís here where, I believe, Pakistan cricket is in a phase where objective analysis and cautious optimism are the ways forward. There is also room to assess the (limited) positives if there are any. So, the negatives are already obvious - older players are not the way forward, and probably will not provide for exciting cricket, and will hog a spot on the team where youngsters could have been given a shot but we have to look at the positives and hope that the rest of the players will stand up to scrutiny and provide us with some happy memories this summer.

    The likely XI for Pakistanís Test squad against England

    The playing XI to take on England will likely remain the same as the ones that have played in the recent past as the Misbah-Azhar alliance is likely to opt for a safety-first policy. So, forgetting the practice squads for a second, the likely playing XI is as follows:

    1. Abid Ali
    2. Shan Masood
    3. Azhar Ali (C)
    4. Babar Azam
    5. Fawad Alam
    6. Asad Shafiq
    7. Mohammad Rizwan (WK)
    8. One of Faheem Ashraf / Yasir Shah / Shadab Khan
    9. Shaheen Afridi
    10. Mohammad Abbas
    11. Naseem Shah

    With Haris Sohail out of the picture for this tour, the inclusion of Fawad Alam is a great positive as he becomes an automatic contender for the playing XI. The only chance he sits out is if Pakistan plays 4 seamers (the 4th being Faheem Ashraf) and 1 spinner (probably Yasir Shah) which is, at best, unlikely. The selection of Fawad Alam one hopes should put paid to the relentless complaints from the media about his exclusion in the past. And now it will be up to the batsman to show what he is made of and silence his critics for good.


    So how do we go about preparing to beat England in Tests, in England?

    Given this playing XI, the question becomes, how best will we prepare these fine men to win what promises to be an exciting cricket series in England this summer?

    We all know that England is by no means an easy place to tour as many teams, including India, have found this out the hard way. So, preparation, as Pakistan sides have demonstrated so well in the past, is a key factor in every tour to England. We have always prepared well for tours of England where we have arrived weeks and weeks in advance, played county sides, and eventually played some exciting cricket that has led to us drawing series and winning crucial matches.

    But our visit of 2020 is in a different and worrying setting. Our cricketers last played competitive cricket in the now postponed PSL5 which was a few months ago. There is no chance of playing county sides where they can get competitive practice. On top of that, for their safety, they will be confined to a bio-secure bubble where the only practice possible will be among themselves.

    In contrast, Pakistanís opponents will be coming fresh off a Test series with the West Indies, where they will have come to grips with the greatest challenge of all - getting the ball to swing without saliva in match conditions. The only option left for Pakistan is to go about training by using all the resources of the 29-member squad at their disposal and hope (and pray) that the collective wisdom as embodied by the presence of Waqar Younis, Younis Khan and Mushtaq Ahmed will be enough to get the players into the right frame of mind for the upcoming challenge against a supremely confident home side.


    Can Pakistan squadís bowling resources help prepare our batsmen to face James Anderson and Stuart Broad?

    The good news is that Pakistan in their squad have some quality bowlers who can help our batsmen prepare for the challenge of facing the likes of James Anderson and Stuart Broad. Whilst they may not be of the same calibre as Englandís two trustworthy warhorses, there is enough firepower in the shape of Mohammad Abbas, Wahab Riaz, Shaheen Afridi and Naseem Shah, Mohammad Hasnain and Usman Khan Shinwari to give Pakistan batsmen a good taste of things to come with the Dukes ball. Obviously a lot will depend on our bowlers ability to control swing and understand the local conditions but given PCBís decision to use the same ball type in Pakistan for their domestic cricket, one hopes that the bowlers will be able to adapt at a much faster rate. And for Pakistanís sake, the likes of Abid Ali, Shan Masood, Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq and Fawad Alam will also get a fair idea of what to expect when the action begins in the Test series.


    The value of Imran Khan and Sohail Khan on the tour of England

    Whilst the presence of youngsters like Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah are great sights to behold for Pakistan fans who have yearned for new and faster bowlers, the fact remains that they are new to the scene and to some could well be a liability. That is not to say that Imran Khan or Sohail Khan are remarkably better prospects. They are, to say the least, while remaining polite, not fitness freaks and one would not be surprised if they do breakdown during the tour with fitness issues.

    However, what they do have is experience, both with English conditions and the Dukes ball, to the extent that they can exercise good control over the ball and give our batsmen, especially Abid, Shan, Babar, and Fawad, reliable practice (which is the primary role of the non-playing XI). Further, it is important to note that there is an additional advantage provided by such a set-up. That is to say, their inclusion will help lessen the load on the coaches by not requiring as much coaching by Waqar, allowing him to focus on Shaheen, Naseem, Shinwari, Rauf, Hasnain, and Faheem. And they will also be able to share their experience and tips during the practice matches and in between sessions to a bowler like Naseem for whom the tour of England will be a unique and new experience.


    Is this Pakistan squad best equipped to deal with the challenges of the tour of England?

    There is a school of thought that would gladly have Pakistan lose the series 3-0 but give chances to newer players instead of the tried-and-tested brigade of Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Yasir Shah, and Sohail Khan and Imran Khan, but that would have been reckless. In fact, a good way (cynical probably) to look at this that bowlers like Sohail Khan and Imran Khan have been brought on in the capacity of very well-tuned bowling machines and nothing more. But given Misbahís like for both bowlers, we could well see them in the playing XIs of one or more Tests.

    But letís look on the positive side and marvel at the raw talent we have in hand in the presence of Haider Ali, Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah. Enough has been written about what Babar Azam can offer to the world of cricket and he will chomping on the bit to take himself to the next level of excellence whilst Fawad Alam who has waited for years to make a comeback will be full of determination to succeed. Abid Ali is quite capable of being a thorn in the sides of the opposition and along with Shan Masood could well be the toast of the summer as far as Pakistan are concerned.

    So all that remains now is for the Pakistan side to fly out to England, get themselves settled in safety in their bio-secure environment to organize themselves so that they can start playing like a unit rather than a bunch of strangers all trying to individually cement their place.

    May Pakistan fight valiantly this summer.


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    Sorry quick question is the Dukes ball being used for this series as oppose to kookoburra?

    Bat first, be patient with the new ball and then cash in with a big score. That's my advise.

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    Great write-up.

    Have a feeling Pakistan will surprise everyone on this tour.

    As the matches will happen in August and September the pitches should suit them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Thanks to @Thunderbolt14 for this write up.




    At long last, Pakistan’s 29-man squad has been announced for the much-awaited tour of England and whilst it would be easy to pick faults in the choice of players, there is an overwhelming feeling that on balance Misbah-ul-Haq has made reasonable choices for which he deserves some credit.

    It would have been tough for Misbah as there was significant push-back and pressures from all corners, and a lot of it is very justified especially when it refers to the return of some older players, the continuation of specific mentalities and what seems superficially like a defensive mindset approach. And then there was the selection of an untried youngster in the shape of Haider Ali.

    The young batsman who represented Peshawar Zalmi in PSL5 was by no means a surety for this tour until recently he was added in the Emerging category in the Central Contracts and whilst the media may have feigned shock and horror at this selection, the fact is that his selection was a must the moment he was picked for that category – not taking him to England would surely have been a great disservice and thankfully the right decision was made.

    But there are understandably some areas of concern that must also be mentioned and the foremost in that is the continued faith in Imran Khan which is simply baffling and of course the “out of the blue” inclusion of Sohail Khan. And it’s here where, I believe, Pakistan cricket is in a phase where objective analysis and cautious optimism are the ways forward. There is also room to assess the (limited) positives if there are any. So, the negatives are already obvious - older players are not the way forward, and probably will not provide for exciting cricket, and will hog a spot on the team where youngsters could have been given a shot but we have to look at the positives and hope that the rest of the players will stand up to scrutiny and provide us with some happy memories this summer.

    The likely XI for Pakistan’s Test squad against England

    The playing XI to take on England will likely remain the same as the ones that have played in the recent past as the Misbah-Azhar alliance is likely to opt for a safety-first policy. So, forgetting the practice squads for a second, the likely playing XI is as follows:

    1. Abid Ali
    2. Shan Masood
    3. Azhar Ali (C)
    4. Babar Azam
    5. Fawad Alam
    6. Asad Shafiq
    7. Mohammad Rizwan (WK)
    8. One of Faheem Ashraf / Yasir Shah / Shadab Khan
    9. Shaheen Afridi
    10. Mohammad Abbas
    11. Naseem Shah

    With Haris Sohail out of the picture for this tour, the inclusion of Fawad Alam is a great positive as he becomes an automatic contender for the playing XI. The only chance he sits out is if Pakistan plays 4 seamers (the 4th being Faheem Ashraf) and 1 spinner (probably Yasir Shah) which is, at best, unlikely. The selection of Fawad Alam one hopes should put paid to the relentless complaints from the media about his exclusion in the past. And now it will be up to the batsman to show what he is made of and silence his critics for good.


    So how do we go about preparing to beat England in Tests, in England?

    Given this playing XI, the question becomes, how best will we prepare these fine men to win what promises to be an exciting cricket series in England this summer?

    We all know that England is by no means an easy place to tour as many teams, including India, have found this out the hard way. So, preparation, as Pakistan sides have demonstrated so well in the past, is a key factor in every tour to England. We have always prepared well for tours of England where we have arrived weeks and weeks in advance, played county sides, and eventually played some exciting cricket that has led to us drawing series and winning crucial matches.

    But our visit of 2020 is in a different and worrying setting. Our cricketers last played competitive cricket in the now postponed PSL5 which was a few months ago. There is no chance of playing county sides where they can get competitive practice. On top of that, for their safety, they will be confined to a bio-secure bubble where the only practice possible will be among themselves.

    In contrast, Pakistan’s opponents will be coming fresh off a Test series with the West Indies, where they will have come to grips with the greatest challenge of all - getting the ball to swing without saliva in match conditions. The only option left for Pakistan is to go about training by using all the resources of the 29-member squad at their disposal and hope (and pray) that the collective wisdom as embodied by the presence of Waqar Younis, Younis Khan and Mushtaq Ahmed will be enough to get the players into the right frame of mind for the upcoming challenge against a supremely confident home side.


    Can Pakistan squad’s bowling resources help prepare our batsmen to face James Anderson and Stuart Broad?

    The good news is that Pakistan in their squad have some quality bowlers who can help our batsmen prepare for the challenge of facing the likes of James Anderson and Stuart Broad. Whilst they may not be of the same calibre as England’s two trustworthy warhorses, there is enough firepower in the shape of Mohammad Abbas, Wahab Riaz, Shaheen Afridi and Naseem Shah, Mohammad Hasnain and Usman Khan Shinwari to give Pakistan batsmen a good taste of things to come with the Dukes ball. Obviously a lot will depend on our bowlers ability to control swing and understand the local conditions but given PCB’s decision to use the same ball type in Pakistan for their domestic cricket, one hopes that the bowlers will be able to adapt at a much faster rate. And for Pakistan’s sake, the likes of Abid Ali, Shan Masood, Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq and Fawad Alam will also get a fair idea of what to expect when the action begins in the Test series.


    The value of Imran Khan and Sohail Khan on the tour of England

    Whilst the presence of youngsters like Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah are great sights to behold for Pakistan fans who have yearned for new and faster bowlers, the fact remains that they are new to the scene and to some could well be a liability. That is not to say that Imran Khan or Sohail Khan are remarkably better prospects. They are, to say the least, while remaining polite, not fitness freaks and one would not be surprised if they do breakdown during the tour with fitness issues.

    However, what they do have is experience, both with English conditions and the Dukes ball, to the extent that they can exercise good control over the ball and give our batsmen, especially Abid, Shan, Babar, and Fawad, reliable practice (which is the primary role of the non-playing XI). Further, it is important to note that there is an additional advantage provided by such a set-up. That is to say, their inclusion will help lessen the load on the coaches by not requiring as much coaching by Waqar, allowing him to focus on Shaheen, Naseem, Shinwari, Rauf, Hasnain, and Faheem. And they will also be able to share their experience and tips during the practice matches and in between sessions to a bowler like Naseem for whom the tour of England will be a unique and new experience.


    Is this Pakistan squad best equipped to deal with the challenges of the tour of England?

    There is a school of thought that would gladly have Pakistan lose the series 3-0 but give chances to newer players instead of the tried-and-tested brigade of Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Yasir Shah, and Sohail Khan and Imran Khan, but that would have been reckless. In fact, a good way (cynical probably) to look at this that bowlers like Sohail Khan and Imran Khan have been brought on in the capacity of very well-tuned bowling machines and nothing more. But given Misbah’s like for both bowlers, we could well see them in the playing XIs of one or more Tests.

    But let’s look on the positive side and marvel at the raw talent we have in hand in the presence of Haider Ali, Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah. Enough has been written about what Babar Azam can offer to the world of cricket and he will chomping on the bit to take himself to the next level of excellence whilst Fawad Alam who has waited for years to make a comeback will be full of determination to succeed. Abid Ali is quite capable of being a thorn in the sides of the opposition and along with Shan Masood could well be the toast of the summer as far as Pakistan are concerned.

    So all that remains now is for the Pakistan side to fly out to England, get themselves settled in safety in their bio-secure environment to organize themselves so that they can start playing like a unit rather than a bunch of strangers all trying to individually cement their place.

    May Pakistan fight valiantly this summer.
    Excellent read I agree with pretty much everything you stated great stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaibbtt View Post
    Sorry quick question is the Dukes ball being used for this series as oppose to kookoburra?

    Bat first, be patient with the new ball and then cash in with a big score. That's my advise.
    I'd bat second atleast u can still be in the game not like england going to have a world class spinner in the team on last day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    Great write-up.

    Have a feeling Pakistan will surprise everyone on this tour.

    As the matches will happen in August and September the pitches should suit them.
    They always have decent tour in England espically tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    They always have decent tour in England espically tests
    Indeed. Naseem and Shaheen will be the key.

    They get England out cheaply we have a great chance to outperform them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    Indeed. Naseem and Shaheen will be the key.

    They get England out cheaply we have a great chance to outperform them.
    yes naseem needs to strike early get root out early and stokes.
    Yes pakistan should bowl first

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    Thanks @MenInG @Abdullah719 for the proofread and edits. I enjoyed writing this!

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    This tour will come down to two ski keys for us

    How we bat and if Yasir shah can perform , its that simple

    I expect
    the seamers to do there part

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Thanks @MenInG @Abdullah719 for the proofread and edits. I enjoyed writing this!
    I am impressed my brother. Great analysis. I completely agree with you on bringing new young faces then bringing old tested players. But the positive/guaranteed thing is that Naseem/Shaheen/Abbas will most def be in the playing XI and they will probably play an all rounder or a spinner or both. I cant wait for this tour. It will be a challenging but an exciting tour for Pakistan.

    Once again I am impressed. The choice of vocabulary was top notch. Keep doing your think bro.

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    Fantastic write-up @Thunderbolt14!


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    Great write up, well done.

    As for the question, I think it comes down to 2 factors: 1) Runs on the board 2) The performances of Yasir/Faheem/Shadab (assuming that the XI you proposed is the XI that will play predominantly, which I think it will).

    It's the classic mode of success when it comes to Pakistan being able to win games: if they have runs on the board their bowlers will do their thing and take full advantage. So all eyes will be on Babar and co.

    If they play Yasir and he finally gets things right, simply put, Pakistan's attack will be potent tenfold.

    If Faheem plays, I feel he is still reliable at bowling his consistent line and length and holding one end but, as it always has been, it's his batting that has the biggest question mark. He'd be batting at 8, so can he consistently muster a good 25-35 runs per innings, or better yet, even a couple 50+ scores? If he does, then Pakistan could get valuable runs from their tail-enders overall.

    If Shadab plays, I'm worried if he'll be able to land his leg-spinner on a good length consistently. If he does, his googly will have a more surprising punch. As for his batting, personally, that's what I'm looking forward to more. Yes it was the PSL and its t20, but when he was batting out there I couldn't help but think if he could replicate that in the other formats. He had this whiff of confidence with him too during his batting exploits during PSL 5.

    Overall, I think if they have runs on the board consistently and if Yasir/Shadab/Faheem raise their hands to the occasion, I don't see why Pakistan wouldn't have a shot at winning this series. At least, that's how I see it.

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    We will get whitewashed.

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    Think less about 38 year old Anderson and more about Wood and Archer.

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    I think England will win the series. They seem a stronger batting line up than last year. They have a lot of bowling options as well. They are stronger at home than away from home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    We will get whitewashed.
    Just wondering - did you say the same in 2018?


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    Great writeup @Thunderbolt14 bro

    Good analysis overall but a bit more focused on bowling, would have loved to see more on batting as well, the continued selection of Imam, return of Sarfaraz & whether Haider could make his way in the Test XI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    I think England will win the series. They seem a stronger batting line up than last year.
    Yep, they seem to be picking top order batters who can at least stay in, rather than ODI specialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Yep, they seem to be picking top order batters who can at least stay in, rather than ODI specialists.
    Sibley and Crawley are solid grinders. Alongside Pope, England batting for the next 7/8 years is in good hands!

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    I think England will edge it out 2-1, or 1-1 draw if it rains a lot, could be a classic series like so many recent tours of Pak there. I am interested to watch the Babar Azam vs Archer contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaibbtt View Post
    Sorry quick question is the Dukes ball being used for this series as oppose to kookoburra?

    Bat first, be patient with the new ball and then cash in with a big score. That's my advise.
    Yes the Dukes ball is always used in England.

    Very good write up - my main fear is Azhar and Shafiq will be passengers as usual under the cosh and too much of the batting burden will be on Babar's shoulders.

    Also we've been hopelessly battered the last two Tests we've played at Old Trafford where the ball tends to carry a lot more than other grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Yes the Dukes ball is always used in England.

    Very good write up - my main fear is Azhar and Shafiq will be passengers as usual under the cosh and too much of the batting burden will be on Babar's shoulders.

    Also we've been hopelessly battered the last two Tests we've played at Old Trafford where the ball tends to carry a lot more than other grounds.
    I thought it was kookaburra as thatís whatís played in internationals

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrentDevil View Post
    Great writeup @Thunderbolt14 bro

    Good analysis overall but a bit more focused on bowling, would have loved to see more on batting as well, the continued selection of Imam, return of Sarfaraz & whether Haider could make his way in the Test XI
    Thanks buddy. Iíll respond briefly.

    Paradoxically, Imamís selection rings alarm bells not for Tests but for LOI, where he has historically performed in ODI. The question is an age old dilemma between what shows on paper and what is seen to the naked eye. Indeed, the pace with which he plays the game is ideal for a Test opener. There are the issues with shot selection and edging balls to the slip cordon, but nothing that canít be fixed.

    Perhaps it is in his youth that we may place the most hope. So as to say, he has the rest of his career ahead of him. No doubt, a similar case could be made for Sami Aslam and many other openers toiling in domestic; and yet, with only four opener slots, someone must get the cut from the bench unless they are really knocking the door down, which is not the case for our domestic talent.

    The good news is, Sami and Imran both had a great QAE 2019 season. It will be exciting to see them replicate their performances more consistently over the next two years. And national call-ups for one or the both of them would not be surprising in the near future.

    Haider is a special case. His pathway for entry to the squad is quite different. The upcoming T20 World Cup, a desire to retain the flailing number 1 position, a lack of surety with the opener and one down slots, a destructive PSL, and age have together created the perfect storm for Haiderís entry. This is set against the context of his performances in U19 and the QAE final.

    Indeed, despite the unbridled talent that the prodigy displays for all formats, it is likely that Misbah and his selectors have found a Nash equilibrium between the short (T20) and long term (All Formats) goals: call Haider up for the T20 position but begin integrating him into the Test setup by having him practice with the rest of the squad.

    It is unlikely Misbah will give him a debut against the safe selections that are Shafiq and Fawad. These are the only people who can be dropped for Haider. Perhaps Haiderís best bets are in Jofra Archer troubling one of these two. A Labuschagne-esque entry a la the 2019 Ashes would not be unprecedented.

    I wish Haider the best of luck.

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    Excellent points made - but I get the feeling that Imran and Sohail are being taken as glorified net bowlers - is that how you see it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Excellent points made - but I get the feeling that Imran and Sohail are being taken as glorified net bowlers - is that how you see it?
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Thanks buddy. I’ll respond briefly.

    Paradoxically, Imam’s selection rings alarm bells not for Tests but for LOI, where he has historically performed in ODI. The question is an age old dilemma between what shows on paper and what is seen to the naked eye. Indeed, the pace with which he plays the game is ideal for a Test opener. There are the issues with shot selection and edging balls to the slip cordon, but nothing that can’t be fixed.

    Perhaps it is in his youth that we may place the most hope. So as to say, he has the rest of his career ahead of him. No doubt, a similar case could be made for Sami Aslam and many other openers toiling in domestic; and yet, with only four opener slots, someone must get the cut from the bench unless they are really knocking the door down, which is not the case for our domestic talent.

    The good news is, Sami and Imran both had a great QAE 2019 season. It will be exciting to see them replicate their performances more consistently over the next two years. And national call-ups for one or the both of them would not be surprising in the near future.

    Haider is a special case. His pathway for entry to the squad is quite different. The upcoming T20 World Cup, a desire to retain the flailing number 1 position, a lack of surety with the opener and one down slots, a destructive PSL, and age have together created the perfect storm for Haider’s entry. This is set against the context of his performances in U19 and the QAE final.

    Indeed, despite the unbridled talent that the prodigy displays for all formats, it is likely that Misbah and his selectors have found a Nash equilibrium between the short (T20) and long term (All Formats) goals: call Haider up for the T20 position but begin integrating him into the Test setup by having him practice with the rest of the squad.

    It is unlikely Misbah will give him a debut against the safe selections that are Shafiq and Fawad. These are the only people who can be dropped for Haider. Perhaps Haider’s best bets are in Jofra Archer troubling one of these two. A Labuschagne-esque entry a la the 2019 Ashes would not be unprecedented.

    I wish Haider the best of luck.
    Sami Aslam should have gone instead of imaam defo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Excellent points made - but I get the feeling that Imran and Sohail are being taken as glorified net bowlers - is that how you see it?
    It would be very surprising if they actually end up playing. Logically, itís the only thing that makes a shred of sense, that they are being taken for practice. This is a very important role, in context of the lack of other practice our players will be getting. Even if they donít play, it is an important service to Pakistan cricket if they bowl well in the nets and in the practice matches.

    That is how I see it. However, Misbah has been known to surprise in the past.

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    Would be tough series for Pak.

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    England is a much better team after the south Africa tour. They have found Solid openers for a change, which never happened before and a decent no. 3 may be found in crawley. Add Ollie pope to the mix and eng are now a much stronger batting line up than they were in 2018.

    Archer has strengthened the bowling immensely. The pitches in England are now very seamer friendly and Naseem and Shaheen will find success. But they won't be enough to drive pak to victory.

    Don't think pak will win at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Thanks buddy. Iíll respond briefly.

    Paradoxically, Imamís selection rings alarm bells not for Tests but for LOI, where he has historically performed in ODI. The question is an age old dilemma between what shows on paper and what is seen to the naked eye. Indeed, the pace with which he plays the game is ideal for a Test opener. There are the issues with shot selection and edging balls to the slip cordon, but nothing that canít be fixed.

    Perhaps it is in his youth that we may place the most hope. So as to say, he has the rest of his career ahead of him. No doubt, a similar case could be made for Sami Aslam and many other openers toiling in domestic; and yet, with only four opener slots, someone must get the cut from the bench unless they are really knocking the door down, which is not the case for our domestic talent.

    The good news is, Sami and Imran both had a great QAE 2019 season. It will be exciting to see them replicate their performances more consistently over the next two years. And national call-ups for one or the both of them would not be surprising in the near future.

    Haider is a special case. His pathway for entry to the squad is quite different. The upcoming T20 World Cup, a desire to retain the flailing number 1 position, a lack of surety with the opener and one down slots, a destructive PSL, and age have together created the perfect storm for Haiderís entry. This is set against the context of his performances in U19 and the QAE final.

    Indeed, despite the unbridled talent that the prodigy displays for all formats, it is likely that Misbah and his selectors have found a Nash equilibrium between the short (T20) and long term (All Formats) goals: call Haider up for the T20 position but begin integrating him into the Test setup by having him practice with the rest of the squad.

    It is unlikely Misbah will give him a debut against the safe selections that are Shafiq and Fawad. These are the only people who can be dropped for Haider. Perhaps Haiderís best bets are in Jofra Archer troubling one of these two. A Labuschagne-esque entry a la the 2019 Ashes would not be unprecedented.

    I wish Haider the best of luck.
    Tbh with you bro, I wouldn't be surprised if Haider gets a debut in Test. Misbah in his latest press conference was talking about how good of a red ball cricketer he is. If he impresses in the intra squad matches, then he will make a strong case for Misbah to give him the cap.

    Another thing is that Misbah gave Naseem the cap at a young age and Naseem had barely any first class games under his belt.

    @Thunderbolt14 Do you think Misbah will take the same route he took for giving the cap to Naseem and do that to Haider Ali? Btw who is Nash?

    Nice write up bro. First for bowling and now for batting. Nice job bro. Keep killing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaibbtt View Post
    I thought it was kookaburra as thatís whatís played in internationals
    Kookaburra is used in all ODI and T20I cricket. Tests in England and West Indies use the Dukes ball, and tests in India use the SG ball. Everywhere else the Kookaburra is used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    It would be very surprising if they actually end up playing. Logically, itís the only thing that makes a shred of sense, that they are being taken for practice. This is a very important role, in context of the lack of other practice our players will be getting. Even if they donít play, it is an important service to Pakistan cricket if they bowl well in the nets and in the practice matches.

    That is how I see it. However, Misbah has been known to surprise in the past.
    Absolutely I agree with you on Misbah picking Imran and Sohail as net/practice bowlers.
    The three fast bowlers that are locked to play are Shaheen,Naseem and Abbas. The fourth bowler could be a spinner or Faheem as an all rounder. If they play five bowlers then it would probably be Faheem and a spinner will play. So it would not make sense if Sohail or Imran play unless they really impress in the intra squad matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFresh23 View Post
    Tbh with you bro, I wouldn't be surprised if Haider gets a debut in Test. Misbah in his latest press conference was talking about how good of a red ball cricketer he is. If he impresses in the intra squad matches, then he will make a strong case for Misbah to give him the cap.

    Another thing is that Misbah gave Naseem the cap at a young age and Naseem had barely any first class games under his belt.

    @Thunderbolt14 Do you think Misbah will take the same route he took for giving the cap to Naseem and do that to Haider Ali? Btw who is Nash?

    Nice write up bro. First for bowling and now for batting. Nice job bro. Keep killing it.
    Haider is likely to get the test cap sometime within the next two years. So it will be relatively early in his career. But debuting in the England tour is unlikely and moreover would be unfair to Fawad. This much Misbah believes as well, and the only reason Haris Sohail was given an extended run over Fawad was to give him confidence. which coaches need to do during playersí lean patches. With Harisís absence, Fawad is likely to play.

    However, if Fawad or Shafiq are injured, then Haider is the next in the running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    However, if Fawad or Shafiq are injured, then Haider is the next in the running.
    Hopefully it's Haider, and not Iftikhar...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Hopefully it's Haider, and not Iftikhar...
    Hopefully it's not Misbah himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    Hopefully it's not Misbah himself
    Idk what's worse


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    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    Kookaburra is used in all ODI and T20I cricket. Tests in England and West Indies use the Dukes ball, and tests in India use the SG ball. Everywhere else the Kookaburra is used.
    Plenty of the Pak domestic cricketers have had years of experience playing the Duke's ball.

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    Selecting playing 11 will be crucial on this tour as their are a lot of options. selecting on the basis of conditions and pitch is very imp. My 11 for the 1st test would be :-
    1. Shan Masood
    2. Abid Ali
    3. Azhar Ali
    4. Babar azam
    5. Fawad Alam
    6. Asad shafiq
    7. Moh

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    Selecting playing 11 will be crucial on this tour as their are a lot of options. selecting on the basis of conditions and pitch is very imp. My 11 for the 1st test would be :-
    1. Shan Masood
    2. Abid Ali
    3. Azhar Ali
    4. Babar azam
    5. Fawad Alam
    6. Asad shafiq
    7. Mohammad rizwan
    8. Yasir
    9. Shaheen
    10. Abbas
    11. Naseem

    I have a gut feeling that this series will turn out to be a make or break series for ASAD SHAFIQ.
    The reason is that he has been very inconsistent after MissYou retired and you don't expect this from your senior player. Plus the emergence of Fawad Alam and some domestic middle order players will make it tough for him.
    If he is inconsistent in this series as well their will be talks in media to take a call on him.
    I would have said this about Azhar Ali as well but fortunately he is the captain so the time is not up for him yet.


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    Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali are gonna retire in a year or two, their form has been terrible.

    Taking that into account, england bowlers will blow away pak's batting order.

    Shaheen and Naseem will find some success, may take a few 5 fers, but they wont be enough to prevent a whitewash from england

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindhiboy View Post
    Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali are gonna retire in a year or two, their form has been terrible.

    Taking that into account, england bowlers will blow away pak's batting order.

    Shaheen and Naseem will find some success, may take a few 5 fers, but they wont be enough to prevent a whitewash from england
    What I can never understand is why do we have to keep giving failures another 2-3 series to confirm their failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maliq_Mudasir View Post
    Would be tough series for Pak.
    It will be tough for both batting line ups

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindhiboy View Post
    England is a much better team after the south Africa tour. They have found Solid openers for a change, which never happened before and a decent no. 3 may be found in crawley. Add Ollie pope to the mix and eng are now a much stronger batting line up than they were in 2018.

    Archer has strengthened the bowling immensely. The pitches in England are now very seamer friendly and Naseem and Shaheen will find success. But they won't be enough to drive pak to victory.

    Don't think pak will win at all.
    Was strausse,cook and piterson their in that series or was it the series before

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindhiboy View Post
    Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali are gonna retire in a year or two, their form has been terrible.

    Taking that into account, england bowlers will blow away pak's batting order.

    Shaheen and Naseem will find some success, may take a few 5 fers, but they wont be enough to prevent a whitewash from england
    I expect both batting line ups to find success and blow each other way but england proberly have abit more in bowling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Haider is likely to get the test cap sometime within the next two years. So it will be relatively early in his career. But debuting in the England tour is unlikely and moreover would be unfair to Fawad. This much Misbah believes as well, and the only reason Haris Sohail was given an extended run over Fawad was to give him confidence. which coaches need to do during playersí lean patches. With Harisís absence, Fawad is likely to play.

    However, if Fawad or Shafiq are injured, then Haider is the next in the running.
    Your absolutely right, Fawad and Shafiq are ahead of him.As you said God forbid if they get injured, then he would get to play. I mean it's a three game test series, I would give him the the Test cap for the last test.

    Would you give him the test cap, if Pakistan are winning the test series 2-0 or is it to early?

    Also what number would you play Haider Ali in the batting lineup?

    I personally would play him 4th or 5th in the batting lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFresh23 View Post
    Your absolutely right, Fawad and Shafiq are ahead of him.As you said God forbid if they get injured, then he would get to play. I mean it's a three game test series, I would give him the the Test cap for the last test.

    Would you give him the test cap, if Pakistan are winning the test series 2-0 or is it to early?

    Also what number would you play Haider Ali in the batting lineup?

    I personally would play him 4th or 5th in the batting lineup.
    Yes if they winning 2-0 then I would but dont see 2 nill happening.

    Number 5 or 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Was strausse,cook and piterson their in that series or was it the series before
    I am comparing current eng team with the 2018 one, when eng last played with pak

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    This series - England probably has just one task: keep Babar's series average under 30....... PAK has many things to click .....

    Last time (2016), the two Tests PAK won was build around couple of master innings - since then, both the scorers have retired and the other two have declined considerably. So, if I do a player to player comparison form 2016 (with most likely line-ups), this comes like this

    1. Azhar - Abid
    2. Shan/MoHa/Sami - Shan
    3. Asad - Azhar
    4. YK - Babar
    5. Misbah - Asad
    6. MoHa/Iftekhar - Fakhar/Fawad/Imam
    7. Sarfraz - Rizwan
    8. Mo Amir - Shaheen
    9. Yasir - Yasir/Shadab
    10. Wahab - Naseem
    11. Rahat/Sohail - Abbas

    Net net, I think only two, may be 3 places gained, rest lost. Babar has improved lot, but still not sure he is at per with YK, though apart from that innings, YK didn't do much - I take it as draw. Azhar & Asad definitely has declined from 2016, while Shan has improved - other opener Abid is unknown, but Sami averaged over 50 that time, can't give it to current team. Misbah, in his fading age averaged over 40 with one match winning hundred - no way I can give this spot to current team. Probably Rizwan is ahead of Sarfraz, but we should remember, 2016 was at last end of Sarfraz's golden period; Rizwan will do good to better Sarf's series average of 32.

    In terms of bowling Abbas looks better than Rahat; but other two spots I can't give it to current team - may be tie between Amir & Shaheen, but Naseem will need to do lot to match the other pacer (Sohail, took 2 5fors & 13 wickets at 25; Wahab took 10 wickets at 36). Net, net, I'll say 3 ups (Shan, Rizwan, Abbas), 6 downs and two ties (Babar - YK, Amir - Shaheen).

    If I do the same for English team

    1. Cook - Dom Sibley
    2. Hales - Burns
    3. Ballance - Pope
    4. Root - Root
    5. Bairstow+ - Buttler+
    6. Vince - Stokes
    7. Moeen - Woakes
    8. Woakes - Curran
    9. Broad - Broad
    10. Finn - Archer
    11. Anderson - Anderson/Wood

    There are two distinctive lows - Cook and Moeen (though he might make a come back at 7 again). We can consider Woakes of 2016 higher than Woakes of 2020 as well (I think, he'll fight a spot with Curran, both won't play), probably Jimmy & Broad as well; while Root & that WK spot a tie for the current team, rest spots (Burns, Pope, Archer, Wood, Curran & DEFINITELY BEN Stokes) are gains. Net, net, I'll say may be 3 downs and 5 ups with 3 ties, including one up from Stokes, which I am sure is more than just one.

    I hope PAK makes a better fight than what I see from this comparison - Babar and Shaheen has to have two grand series, to make PAK reasonably competitive.

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    2010 was the year when we started to become Englandís bogey team and 2020 will be the year when we will stop becoming Englandís bogey team.

    Pakistan should consider themselves lucky if they draw a single Test. Winning a match is out of question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    2010 was the year when we started to become England’s bogey team and 2020 will be the year when we will stop becoming England’s bogey team.

    Pakistan should consider themselves lucky if they draw a single Test. Winning a match is out of question.

    I can remember Eion Morgan said in a WC winning documentary that Pakistan are a bogey side.

    Some how your words reached the England captain lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindhiboy View Post
    I am comparing current eng team with the 2018 one, when eng last played with pak
    No they had cook and root in top 3 and stokes
    This series they have archer

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    This series - England probably has just one task: keep Babar's series average under 30....... PAK has many things to click .....

    Last time (2016), the two Tests PAK won was build around couple of master innings - since then, both the scorers have retired and the other two have declined considerably. So, if I do a player to player comparison form 2016 (with most likely line-ups), this comes like this

    1. Azhar - Abid
    2. Shan/MoHa/Sami - Shan
    3. Asad - Azhar
    4. YK - Babar
    5. Misbah - Asad
    6. MoHa/Iftekhar - Fakhar/Fawad/Imam
    7. Sarfraz - Rizwan
    8. Mo Amir - Shaheen
    9. Yasir - Yasir/Shadab
    10. Wahab - Naseem
    11. Rahat/Sohail - Abbas

    Net net, I think only two, may be 3 places gained, rest lost. Babar has improved lot, but still not sure he is at per with YK, though apart from that innings, YK didn't do much - I take it as draw. Azhar & Asad definitely has declined from 2016, while Shan has improved - other opener Abid is unknown, but Sami averaged over 50 that time, can't give it to current team. Misbah, in his fading age averaged over 40 with one match winning hundred - no way I can give this spot to current team. Probably Rizwan is ahead of Sarfraz, but we should remember, 2016 was at last end of Sarfraz's golden period; Rizwan will do good to better Sarf's series average of 32.

    In terms of bowling Abbas looks better than Rahat; but other two spots I can't give it to current team - may be tie between Amir & Shaheen, but Naseem will need to do lot to match the other pacer (Sohail, took 2 5fors & 13 wickets at 25; Wahab took 10 wickets at 36). Net, net, I'll say 3 ups (Shan, Rizwan, Abbas), 6 downs and two ties (Babar - YK, Amir - Shaheen).

    If I do the same for English team

    1. Cook - Dom Sibley
    2. Hales - Burns
    3. Ballance - Pope
    4. Root - Root
    5. Bairstow+ - Buttler+
    6. Vince - Stokes
    7. Moeen - Woakes
    8. Woakes - Curran
    9. Broad - Broad
    10. Finn - Archer
    11. Anderson - Anderson/Wood

    There are two distinctive lows - Cook and Moeen (though he might make a come back at 7 again). We can consider Woakes of 2016 higher than Woakes of 2020 as well (I think, he'll fight a spot with Curran, both won't play), probably Jimmy & Broad as well; while Root & that WK spot a tie for the current team, rest spots (Burns, Pope, Archer, Wood, Curran & DEFINITELY BEN Stokes) are gains. Net, net, I'll say may be 3 downs and 5 ups with 3 ties, including one up from Stokes, which I am sure is more than just one.

    I hope PAK makes a better fight than what I see from this comparison - Babar and Shaheen has to have two grand series, to make PAK reasonably competitive.
    Naseem will take twice
    more wickets than wahab 10. Wahab - Naseem

    Cook is equivalent to sibley and burns that's how good he was for england

    Other than that you analysis is spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    2010 was the year when we started to become England’s bogey team and 2020 will be the year when we will stop becoming England’s bogey team.

    Pakistan should consider themselves lucky if they draw a single Test. Winning a match is out of question.
    I think 2-1 or 1-1 but naseem and shaheen need to get equivalent wickets to broad and anderson

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Naseem will take twice
    more wickets than wahab 10. Wahab - Naseem

    Cook is equivalent to sibley and burns that's how good he was for england

    Other than that you analysis is spot on
    Let the counter start then - Naseem to take 20 wickets in three Tests......

    The value of Cook canít be measured by numbers - he has scored over 11K runs as opener and retired at 33 for apparently lack of hunger. But, I believe the guy has an eye in British politics or high profile job at ECB; otherwise easily could have played another 4-5 years and could have ended as the top run accumulator in Test history. England would have been twice the team had they found an opener like Cook of around 2010-12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Let the counter start then - Naseem to take 20 wickets in three Tests......

    The value of Cook can’t be measured by numbers - he has scored over 11K runs as opener and retired at 33 for apparently lack of hunger. But, I believe the guy has an eye in British politics or high profile job at ECB; otherwise easily could have played another 4-5 years and could have ended as the top run accumulator in Test history. England would have been twice the team had they found an opener like Cook of around 2010-12.

    I think he enjoys spending time on his farm. Don't think he is eyeing a role in politics lol.

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    I would go with:

    Sibley
    Burns
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    Root (c)
    Stokes
    Pope
    Foakes (w)
    Curran
    Broad
    Wood or Archer
    Leach

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Let the counter start then - Naseem to take 20 wickets in three Tests......

    The value of Cook can’t be measured by numbers - he has scored over 11K runs as opener and retired at 33 for apparently lack of hunger. But, I believe the guy has an eye in British politics or high profile job at ECB; otherwise easily could have played another 4-5 years and could have ended as the top run accumulator in Test history. England would have been twice the team had they found an opener like Cook of around 2010-12.
    They never replaced Strauss.

    I think after 161 tests Cook had his fill. Might go into commentary. Or stay down the farm.

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    Usually the wickets will turn slow by the time Pakistan starts their matches, but since there have been no matches this summer they will be relatively fresh right? Not a good sign for our batsmen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Let the counter start then - Naseem to take 20 wickets in three Tests......

    The value of Cook can’t be measured by numbers - he has scored over 11K runs as opener and retired at 33 for apparently lack of hunger. But, I believe the guy has an eye in British politics or high profile job at ECB; otherwise easily could have played another 4-5 years and could have ended as the top run accumulator in Test history. England would have been twice the team had they found an opener like Cook of around 2010-12.
    Yes somewere around 20 in three tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I would go with:

    Sibley
    Burns
    Crawley
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    Pope
    Foakes (w)
    Curran
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    Wood or Archer
    Leach
    No anderson ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Usually the wickets will turn slow by the time Pakistan starts their matches, but since there have been no matches this summer they will be relatively fresh right? Not a good sign for our batsmen.
    Tbh not a good sign for both batting line ups

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    We will get whitewashed.

    As MIGbhai said, what did you say before the last Pakistan tour?

    Or will you swerve that? @Mamoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker View Post
    As MIGbhai said, what did you say before the last Pakistan tour?

    Or will you swerve that? @Mamoon
    Considering our rankings in international cricket and the frequency at which we are thumped by the top sides, my predictions are right more often than not.

    It doesn’t matter what I said in 2016 and 2018. I am convinced that I will be right this time and we will get whitewashed. If I am wrong, so what? It is not a competition for me. I only say what I feel without worrying about the reaction of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    No anderson ?
    I think it is time to move on. Give Curran more responsibility. He and Broad can be the stock bowlers. Attack with Wood and Archer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Considering our rankings in international cricket and the frequency at which we are thumped by the top sides, my predictions are right more often than not.

    It doesn’t matter what I said in 2016 and 2018. I am convinced that I will be right this time and we will get whitewashed. If I am wrong, so what? It is not a competition for me. I only say what I feel without worrying about the reaction of others.
    Third time lucky I guess?

    Nostradamus of PP.

    Some 'fan' of Pakistan! I can understand constructive criticism i.e. improvement to structures, processes etc. But to actively hope for the team/your country to fail and to cling onto the- "well, I live in Pakistan!" Is a shambolic display.

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    Pakistan will win the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I think it is time to move on. Give Curran more responsibility. He and Broad can be the stock bowlers. Attack with Wood and Archer.
    He can play for atleast 2 years hes england best bowler by a mile.curran if it's the left armer hes to slow will get fount wanting in asian conditions even in austrlia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker View Post
    Third time lucky I guess?

    Nostradamus of PP.

    Some 'fan' of Pakistan! I can understand constructive criticism i.e. improvement to structures, processes etc. But to actively hope for the team/your country to fail and to cling onto the- "well, I live in Pakistan!" Is a shambolic display.
    Agree with you spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted123 View Post
    Pakistan will win the series.
    I want them to win but dont see it happening maybe draw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker View Post
    Third time lucky I guess?

    Nostradamus of PP.

    Some 'fan' of Pakistan! I can understand constructive criticism i.e. improvement to structures, processes etc. But to actively hope for the team/your country to fail and to cling onto the- "well, I live in Pakistan!" Is a shambolic display.
    I donít actively hope for my country to fail. Let me tell you something - I had love for cricket before I came here and I will have love for cricket after I leave this place. I gain nothing with Pakistan losing.

    I am no Nostradamus either. The difference between me and some here is that I try to think with my heard and not my heart. I make no bones about the Pakistan is a very ordinary team and that is why it loses most of its matches against the top sides, and that is why I donít see any reason why I should expect Pakistan to win this series.

    My prediction of Pakistan losing this series is based on the following reasons:

    1) Pakistan is a very ordinary side

    2) Pakistan is led by a very ordinary coach who has selected a very ordinary assortment of 29 cricketers

    3) England have improved - they have added steel to their lineup with the inclusion of Burns, Pope and Sibley, they have added firepower with Archer and Stokes has evolved from a quality player to a great of the game. Is this England side better than the one Pakistan faced in 2016 and 2018? I would say yes, in spite of the fact that Englandís best batsman is going through a lean patch.

    4) Pakistan have an atrocious record in non-London venues. Since winning at Old Trafford in 2001, we have lost every Test we have played outside Lordís and Oval. Since we are not playing at those venues this time around, I donít see Pakistan standing a chance.

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    ^ forgot to add:

    Pakistan is led by a very ordinary captain who is also finished as an individual player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I would go with:

    Sibley
    Burns
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    Pretty much this. Except I would drop Curran and play both archer and wood or if they can't play both, give someone like an Olly stone or saqib mehmood a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Pretty much this. Except I would drop Curran and play both archer and wood or if they can't play both, give someone like an Olly stone or saqib mehmood a go.
    Alot of people stating Anderson out but I fought hes a garrtanted starter

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    Azhar Ali is on his last legs
    Abid will go from hero to zero
    Shafiq will hit a couple of flashy 50s but go missing in 4th innings
    Babar will get distracted by comparisons to zeus and julius caesar
    Fawad Alam will get sledges by his own players and fans afters he scores 22 off 188 balls
    Shaheen will get cuddled by the English openers and will be told where all the sweet houses in Derbyshire matlock are
    Naseem shah will break the fastest bowl by anyone over the age of 15 and break his back while doing it
    Abbas will get into his groove in the second test as the fast and bouncy pitches prepared become soft and overcast
    Yasir shah will get tailenders out as England try and find ways to keep him in the team

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    Quote Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri View Post
    Azhar Ali is on his last legs
    Abid will go from hero to zero
    Shafiq will hit a couple of flashy 50s but go missing in 4th innings
    Babar will get distracted by comparisons to zeus and julius caesar
    Fawad Alam will get sledges by his own players and fans afters he scores 22 off 188 balls
    Shaheen will get cuddled by the English openers and will be told where all the sweet houses in Derbyshire matlock are
    Naseem shah will break the fastest bowl by anyone over the age of 15 and break his back while doing it
    Abbas will get into his groove in the second test as the fast and bouncy pitches prepared become soft and overcast
    Yasir shah will get tailenders out as England try and find ways to keep him in the team

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Alot of people stating Anderson out but I fought hes a garrtanted starter
    Well he shouldn't be a guaranteed starter. He's done at this level.

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    with this batting lineup I m not that hopeful but I really hope they win atleast one match and I want fast bowlers to pick up a lot of wickets.We really want to see some cricket who cares about result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Well he shouldn't be a guaranteed starter. He's done at this level.
    He averages less than 25 2020 and under 20 in 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invincible Gujjar View Post
    with this batting lineup I m not that hopeful but I really hope they win atleast one match and I want fast bowlers to pick up a lot of wickets.We really want to see some cricket who cares about result.
    I think they can win 1 test and maybe draw another 1


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