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    Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah: The Future of Pakistan's Bowling



    If the PCB manage these 2 properly, they can go right to the very top and take Pakistan very far. So young and so immensely talented, they will be a joy to watch together for many years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebat View Post


    If the PCB manage these 2 properly, they can go right to the very top and take Pakistan very far. So young and so immensely talented, they will be a joy to watch together for many years.
    100 percent they can be waqar and wasim

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    The two Shah’s.

    Can’t wait to see them bowl together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    100 percent they can be waqar and wasim
    I think such comparisons are unhelpful to them. Naseem is still quite raw and inexperienced, and hasn't flourished against the best teams yet like Shaheen has. I'll wait to see how they fare vs England this summer before I can get on board with such comparisons, but definitely they have the potential.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebat View Post
    I think such comparisons are unhelpful to them. Naseem is still quite raw and inexperienced, and hasn't flourished against the best teams yet like Shaheen has. I'll wait to see how they fare vs England this summer before I can get on board with such comparisons, but definitely they have the potential.
    It's good comparing it will give them extra motivation to succeed and work on their bowling it's good competition between naseem and Shaheen becouse they both proberly bo they are the best 2 in Pakistan at the moment.hes only really played again austrlia which is proberly best test team atm.he already has a hat trick.just needs to stay focused and keep fit and avoid injuries.shaheen is obvs on a level above naseem thou

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    Potential two-headed monster for our bowling attack. All the best boys!

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    What an exciting duo.

    If they stay fit, stay on track, stay disciplined and motivated, they could tear-up a lot of batting line-ups.



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    They are both exciting.

    But lets not get carried away here. These two are still really young and have plenty of work to do. Also the pressure of helping/saving the team from poor batting performances will be on there shoulders.

    At the age of 20 we already rely on Shaheen to bowl us out a victory after abysmal batting performances. Long road ahead for the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeymurBlake View Post
    They are both exciting.

    But lets not get carried away here. These two are still really young and have plenty of work to do. Also the pressure of helping/saving the team from poor batting performances will be on there shoulders.

    At the age of 20 we already rely on Shaheen to bowl us out a victory after abysmal batting performances. Long road ahead for the two.
    Shaheen already proved hes good enough eg world cup

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeymurBlake View Post
    They are both exciting.

    But lets not get carried away here. These two are still really young and have plenty of work to do. Also the pressure of helping/saving the team from poor batting performances will be on there shoulders.

    At the age of 20 we already rely on Shaheen to bowl us out a victory after abysmal batting performances. Long road ahead for the two.
    Hasn't that been the state of Pakistan since forever?

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    Shaheen is head and shoulders above the rest. Even Amir and Riaz

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Shaheen is head and shoulders above the rest. Even Amir and Riaz
    Shaheen is same level as archer but can become better than archer due to being archer

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Shaheen is same level as archer but can become better than archer due to being archer
    Waqar is the right man to work with these younger bowlers. Only thing they need to do is keep their integrity and head in the right place. Amir was flourishing under Waqar until he lost his own track because of his friendship with Butt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Waqar is the right man to work with these younger bowlers. Only thing they need to do is keep their integrity and head in the right place. Amir was flourishing under Waqar until he lost his own track because of his friendship with Butt.
    Yes 100 percent they need to be used wisely and not be over bowled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty Naz View Post
    Hasn't that been the state of Pakistan since forever?
    It has but I'm pointing out that a 20 yr old Shaheen is having to help when our batsman should stand up and perform rather than just rely on Babar to perform with the bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Shaheen already proved hes good enough eg world cup
    Didn't start the tournament well but showed up against New Zealand. He has a ton of potential and he is showing his current class but he is also 20 years old and has a long road ahead for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeymurBlake View Post
    Didn't start the tournament well but showed up against New Zealand. He has a ton of potential and he is showing his current class but he is also 20 years old and has a long road ahead for him.
    Am sure he was top 10 with less games being played azwell.he won them the game against New Zealand afganistan I cant remember the other team

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    Good to see both warming up nicely for the series ahead



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    Shaheen and Naseem can become like Wasim and Waqar.

    These are still early days but signs are promising.


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    Saheen afridi is good bowler but i will wait in order to judge naseem...
    Which are the right handed pakistani bowlers who can swing it?
    More excited about haris rouf, he has good action which if worked on can prove to be real effective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashur_Kalkharab View Post
    Saheen afridi is good bowler but i will wait in order to judge naseem...
    Which are the right handed pakistani bowlers who can swing it?
    More excited about haris rouf, he has good action which if worked on can prove to be real effective.
    Harris rouf wont be as good in tests naseem has a big ceiling in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebat View Post


    If the PCB manage these 2 properly, they can go right to the very top and take Pakistan very far. So young and so immensely talented, they will be a joy to watch together for many years.
    InshAllah.


    Azaadi. InshAllah.

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    Sounds like Naseem bowled well today.

    3 wickets and a couple of close lbw shouts.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Sounds like Naseem bowled well today.

    3 wickets and a couple of close lbw shouts.
    The LBW look really close to

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    Naseem took 5 wickets in the 4 day match. Good signs, but hard to tell if it was his brilliance or our batsmen's incompetency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Viper View Post
    Naseem took 5 wickets in the 4 day match. Good signs, but hard to tell if it was his brilliance or our batsmen's incompetency.
    Looking at the wickets high lights they all seem like very good deliveries also one of the wickets was a short ball

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    Thoughts on Naseem Shah ? @Junaids , not tall enough for you ?

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    Hearing that Shaheen bowled well today and could have had a few more wickets with a bit more luck.

    One very close lbw shout against Iftikhar.



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    Check out the highlights for Naseem Shah



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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Check out the highlights for Naseem Shah

    He isnt bowling at full speed seems like hes bowling at around 85

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    He isnt bowling at full speed seems like hes bowling at around 85
    I read somewhere that he’s bowling from a half run up. Does anyone know some details about this? Is it to nurse a niggle? To save himself for the Tests? Or because he’s struggling with rhythm in his run up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum363 View Post
    I read somewhere that he’s bowling from a half run up. Does anyone know some details about this? Is it to nurse a niggle? To save himself for the Tests? Or because he’s struggling with rhythm in his run up?
    He's bowling within himself.

    No point going full blast in a friendly match.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum363 View Post
    I read somewhere that he’s bowling from a half run up. Does anyone know some details about this? Is it to nurse a niggle? To save himself for the Tests? Or because he’s struggling with rhythm in his run up?
    Proberly looking to save energy so that it doesnt effect his bowling not to sure thou.i dont think it's to do with rhythm otherwise he wouldnt be taking wickets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    He's bowling within himself.

    No point going full blast in a friendly match.
    Fair enough, that’s smart. Naseem is the biggest injury risk with that action, but one of the most exciting talents we have. So he needs to keep himself fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum363 View Post
    I read somewhere that he’s bowling from a half run up. Does anyone know some details about this? Is it to nurse a niggle? To save himself for the Tests? Or because he’s struggling with rhythm in his run up?
    They've come from a long break due to Covid so it's good to start off slow to prevent injury, also he's probably conserving energy.

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    3-47 for Shaheen and 4-52 for Naseem in the ongoing warm-up game to bowl out PCB White for 198.

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    It's a big ask for both these young lads on a tough tour.

    Expectations should be realistic.



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    Far too much expectations at an early stage in their careers, on the other hand our bowlers are only decent for a couple of years at the start of their careers and then for various reasons( lack of intelligence, bookies, injuries etc) fall away quickly. I like both but history is against them. IA I am proved wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Far too much expectations at an early stage in their careers, on the other hand our bowlers are only decent for a couple of years at the start of their careers and then for various reasons( lack of intelligence, bookies, injuries etc) fall away quickly. I like both but history is against them. IA I am proved wrong.
    Expectations are realistic and they can exceede expectations.i belive that due to the numbers of bowlers coming throw example akif javed,husnain,rauf,naseem,shaheen they can manage work load according to the format and skills they process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    It's a big ask for both these young lads on a tough tour.

    Expectations should be realistic.
    So what are the expectations

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    So what are the expectations
    Start with yours

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    I feel both need a guiding hand on the field when they are bowling, and I am not sure if Abbas is that person.


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    Pakistan's biggest problem ever has been hyping up players way too early and then harbouring massive expectations over them and one bad game and it's all hue and cry.

    People need to settle down and keep them expectations really low or not any at all as they'll develop over time and let these youngsters tour different countries and play in different conditions to know what they're made of.

    With the right work ethics and importantly right guidance also in terms of how their workload is managed as if they're also thrown into all 3 formats early on they'll break down real quick and won't be the same when they started off.

    Nasim and Shaheen can progress and even their speeds can get higher only if they're willing to do so by putting in the hard yards and get proper coaching which is not something the PCB is known for.

    We will just have to wait and see with the time how things go.

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    I know Abbas is there, but it says a lot when your bowling hopes lie with a couple of young lads who have played only a few Tests each.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana Mastana View Post
    Start with yours
    I expect naseem to get couple 5 wicket hauls same with Shaheen I expect them in 1 or 2 innings to get hit around azwell.

    In terms of wickets I think they will be close to anderson,broad and archer

    What's ur expectations

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    I feel both need a guiding hand on the field when they are bowling, and I am not sure if Abbas is that person.
    I feel the opposite. Without a guiding hand on the field, Shaheen and Naseem are forced to take more responsibility as spearheads of the attack. They must innovate on the spot, read the situation, and use their own heads.

    They have Waqar off the field to help them improve otherwise, but Shaheen and Naseem are doing well so far precisely because they cope well with responsibility. I wouldn’t say the same about all upcoming bowling talents - like you say, I would feel better if most upcoming bowlers had a guiding hand, someone like Hasnain or Kylie Jamieson. But it speaks to the character of these two youngsters, the two Shahs, of how they are able to absorb pressure and responsibility and use it to their advantage.

    Shaheen has become the spearhead of the attack and is currently the best U23 bowler in the world, maybe even U25 as a result of him having the character in him to take responsibility and perform under pressure.

    Naseem made his debut in Australia of all places, that too a few days after his mother’s passing. He’s a strong lad, you can tell. And he is eagerly performing very quickly, rising through the ranks after troubling the Australians, gaining his hat trick and 5-fer, and now looking extremely dangerous in British conditions. If there was a Wasim Akram type person in this team, he would not be able to “express” himself as a fast bowler as well as he has so far.

    I genuinely think that with Waqar being a guiding hand, these are the magical conditions for both of these two to develop into stars who will serve Pakistan a long time.

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    I saw the highlights of practice match and wow, they are both phenomenal and have tremendous potential to be superstars. The new WWs hopefully I wonder what combination would Pak go with for the 1st test. Abbas, Naseem, SSA, Yasir ? Or get Amir in?

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    I think we have to be realistic though, remember they have not had the competitive test match bowling for a while now, so caution against Hugh expectations.

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    Out of the two Shaheen looks like the better bowler. I am not hyped for Naseem unless he shows some amazing bowling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmaji View Post
    I saw the highlights of practice match and wow, they are both phenomenal and have tremendous potential to be superstars. The new WWs hopefully I wonder what combination would Pak go with for the 1st test. Abbas, Naseem, SSA, Yasir ? Or get Amir in?
    Abbas shaheen and naseem with yasir being the spinner than could change thou they may play 2 spinners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazzam View Post
    Out of the two Shaheen looks like the better bowler. I am not hyped for Naseem unless he shows some amazing bowling.
    Yes he is the better bowler and will most likely not get injured as much as naseem but both have the attitude and class to be world class bowlers

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    They are definitely talented but the responsibility on these young is just too big
    Last edited by MenInG; 31st July 2020 at 19:30.

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    Spoke with Wasim Akram about these 2 today and he referred to them as gems. Just wants them to pitch the ball up and get it to swing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebat View Post


    If the PCB manage these 2 properly, they can go right to the very top and take Pakistan very far. So young and so immensely talented, they will be a joy to watch together for many years.
    This pic is so reminiscent of casual pictures you would see of Wasim and Waqar in early 90s. I'm serious it like the boys have got that 90s swag together background and posture reminiscent of 90s.



    On topic, Shaheen is someone who is more textbook fast bowler and Naseem is someone who is unorthodox.

    I feel Shaheen would have a longer career of the two and might very well end up in the category of great Pakistani fast bowlers by the time he quits. Naseem would have a much more impactful career rather than a long career. Naseem would be a matchwinner when on song, however I have a feeling injury is round the corner for him due to his incredibly side-on positioning. I hope they both in tandem can win Pakistan series in SENA especially Australia.

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    i suspect naseem shah is very good, like seriously, really, very good. he will probably define pakistani cricket over the next ten years. i'll be gobsmacked if im wrong


    How odd I can have all this inside me and to you it's just words.

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    Both players are being hyped to the moon for this series and i fear a reality check is round the corner for the fans. To be successful at test cricket you do need a bit of experience. I hope the fans will take it easy on these two if they don't take wickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Spoke with Wasim Akram about these 2 today and he referred to them as gems. Just wants them to pitch the ball up and get it to swing.
    He’s right - they are absolute diamonds.

    The only problem is that this tour might be a little too soon for them - like the West Indies in Australia in 75-76.

    But they are absolutely fantastic, and Haris Rauf has incredible potential too according to Dale Steyn.

    Pakistan has had two great quicks before (Imran and Wasim 87 and 88, Waqar and Wasim 90-97). But now there is the potential to actually have three!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    He’s right - they are absolute diamonds.

    The only problem is that this tour might be a little too soon for them - like the West Indies in Australia in 75-76.

    But they are absolutely fantastic, and Haris Rauf has incredible potential too according to Dale Steyn.

    Pakistan has had two great quicks before (Imran and Wasim 87 and 88, Waqar and Wasim 90-97). But now there is the potential to actually have three!
    I think you’re over rating Rauf... Shaheen and Naseem are great but Rauf is a Wahab kinda bowler so far.

    Obviously would love to see him improve but to compare him as a potential Waqar or Wasim is a little too much on the basis of a couple Big Bash performances.

    Rauf absolutely deserves to be in the T20 and ODI teams but he just doesn’t have the experience in first class cricket yet. I doubt he has the stamina to bowl 18 overs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    I think you’re over rating Rauf... Shaheen and Naseem are great but Rauf is a Wahab kinda bowler so far.

    Obviously would love to see him improve but to compare him as a potential Waqar or Wasim is a little too much on the basis of a couple Big Bash performances.

    Rauf absolutely deserves to be in the T20 and ODI teams but he just doesn’t have the experience in first class cricket yet. I doubt he has the stamina to bowl 18 overs.
    I'm inclined to agree with your assessment here, because in the three domestic FC matches he played, he did not set the world on fire. As you point out, the biggest issue for me is his stamina. As he is a latecomer in cricket, he hasn't built up the cardio to put in 18 overs a day. It would also be interesting to see how his speeds vary throughout an 18 over spell, given his stamina. Hopefully InshAllah Covid has not had a lasting detrimental effect on his respiration.

    The pity is that he's missed out on almost a month of net time under Waqar by not being able to arrive with his teammates in the UK, unlike, say Hasnain. Haris could have worked on his lengths and his inswing and outswing during this tour, as well as on his fitness, had he arrived on time. However, if he flys in soon, he may well get three weeks of practice with Waqar whilst the Test series is ongoing. (As a side note, I'm genuinely curious to see how Hasnain will do, given his time spent training with Waqar)

    I'm hopeful InshAllah that he can develop. He needs to be developed properly and fans need to be patient with him
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    Quote Originally Posted by majiz View Post
    i suspect naseem shah is very good, like seriously, really, very good. he will probably define pakistani cricket over the next ten years. i'll be gobsmacked if im wrong
    Baring injuries that's the only worry

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    Both players are being hyped to the moon for this series and i fear a reality check is round the corner for the fans. To be successful at test cricket you do need a bit of experience. I hope the fans will take it easy on these two if they don't take wickets.
    You can only gain experience by playing they will do fine you dont worry about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    He’s right - they are absolute diamonds.

    The only problem is that this tour might be a little too soon for them - like the West Indies in Australia in 75-76.

    But they are absolutely fantastic, and Haris Rauf has incredible potential too according to Dale Steyn.

    Pakistan has had two great quicks before (Imran and Wasim 87 and 88, Waqar and Wasim 90-97). But now there is the potential to actually have three!
    Akif javed if developed is another bowler hes inexperienced needs to get abit quick and he can be another jem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    I think you’re over rating Rauf... Shaheen and Naseem are great but Rauf is a Wahab kinda bowler so far.

    Obviously would love to see him improve but to compare him as a potential Waqar or Wasim is a little too much on the basis of a couple Big Bash performances.

    Rauf absolutely deserves to be in the T20 and ODI teams but he just doesn’t have the experience in first class cricket yet. I doubt he has the stamina to bowl 18 overs.
    Agreed hes ganna be good t20 and odi bowler but we havent seen him in tests things may change but hard for him to get in the test team

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    I'm inclined to agree with your assessment here, because in the three domestic FC matches he played, he did not set the world on fire. As you point out, the biggest issue for me is his stamina. As he is a latecomer in cricket, he hasn't built up the cardio to put in 18 overs a day. It would also be interesting to see how his speeds vary throughout an 18 over spell, given his stamina. Hopefully InshAllah Covid has not had a lasting detrimental effect on his respiration.

    The pity is that he's missed out on almost a month of net time under Waqar by not being able to arrive with his teammates in the UK, unlike, say Hasnain. Haris could have worked on his lengths and his inswing and outswing during this tour, as well as on his fitness, had he arrived on time. However, if he flys in soon, he may well get three weeks of practice with Waqar whilst the Test series is ongoing. (As a side note, I'm genuinely curious to see how Hasnain will do, given his time spent training with Waqar)

    I'm hopeful InshAllah that he can develop. He needs to be developed properly and fans need to be patient with him
    Waqar should keep akif husnain musa Rauf amir Khan under his wings if he can develop 3 out of the 5 that be amazing akif javed can be world class in all 3 formats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    He’s right - they are absolute diamonds.

    The only problem is that this tour might be a little too soon for them - like the West Indies in Australia in 75-76.

    But they are absolutely fantastic, and Haris Rauf has incredible potential too according to Dale Steyn.

    Pakistan has had two great quicks before (Imran and Wasim 87 and 88, Waqar and Wasim 90-97). But now there is the potential to actually have three!
    Yes ideally you'd want Naseem and Shaheen as 3rd and 4th chouce behind a couple of seasoned pros and Test regulars.

    But for one reason or another, they've had to be thrown in at the deep end.



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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Akif javed if developed is another bowler hes inexperienced needs to get abit quick and he can be another jem
    Not everybody needs to bowl 145+. I think Akif will be a very good bowler, regardless. 140ish is good enough if you have good control and some skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Third Man View Post
    Not everybody needs to bowl 145+. I think Akif will be a very good bowler, regardless. 140ish is good enough if you have good control and some skills.
    No but it's good if he work on his speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Baring injuries that's the only worry
    the risk is overstated imo. his action is actually straight and vertical. its well balanced


    How odd I can have all this inside me and to you it's just words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Yes ideally you'd want Naseem and Shaheen as 3rd and 4th chouce behind a couple of seasoned pros and Test regulars.

    But for one reason or another, they've had to be thrown in at the deep end.
    Well they should have been coming in behind Amir and Abbas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Well they should have been coming in behind Amir and Abbas...
    They still could - they will all be sitting in the pavilion.

    It would shorten the tail too - why wouldn’t you select:

    7. Shadab Khan
    8. Mohammad Amir
    9. Mohammad Abbas
    10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
    11. Naseem Shah

    Instead half the attack will be elderly and unfit - Yasir Shah and Sohail Khan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Spoke with Wasim Akram about these 2 today and he referred to them as gems. Just wants them to pitch the ball up and get it to swing.
    Sounds very simple Cheers Wasim bhai

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    Excited to see these two have a bowl without expecting too much on a personal level, it's a debut tour so we have to remember that. I hope this will be a good learning curve for them and their overall development

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    The two lads are absolutely the future of Pakistan cricket, which is why I would forensically manage their workload. Misbah has to be on the ball about this, otherwise we will waste these talents.

    Id make a point to go as far as not picking them for T20s at all. Shaheen especially does NOT need to play every game, and should be prioritised for tests and ODIs. He can get his t20 practice by playing in leagues. Same for Naseem.

    In Amir, Haris Rauf and Hasnain you have a strong enough first choice t20 attack. I understand that people are not keen on Hasnain, but that lad has a high ceiling. The t20 attack can further be supplemented by a returning Hassan Ali, an improved Dilber and hopefully a more seasoned Akif Javed. You mix and match the T20 and test squads to pick your ODI squad. Thus, the bowlers can be rotated in ODIs to further manage their workloads. It'll also allow the lads to learn new skills in the nets, rather than 'on the job'.

    That's how you make Shaheen and Naseem the future of Pakistan's bowling. If the PCB actually manage this well, that's two lads who could represent Pakistan for the next 15 years inshAllah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    The two lads are absolutely the future of Pakistan cricket, which is why I would forensically manage their workload. Misbah has to be on the ball about this, otherwise we will waste these talents.

    Id make a point to go as far as not picking them for T20s at all. Shaheen especially does NOT need to play every game, and should be prioritised for tests and ODIs. He can get his t20 practice by playing in leagues. Same for Naseem.

    In Amir, Haris Rauf and Hasnain you have a strong enough first choice t20 attack. I understand that people are not keen on Hasnain, but that lad has a high ceiling. The t20 attack can further be supplemented by a returning Hassan Ali, an improved Dilber and hopefully a more seasoned Akif Javed. You mix and match the T20 and test squads to pick your ODI squad. Thus, the bowlers can be rotated in ODIs to further manage their workloads. It'll also allow the lads to learn new skills in the nets, rather than 'on the job'.

    That's how you make Shaheen and Naseem the future of Pakistan's bowling. If the PCB actually manage this well, that's two lads who could represent Pakistan for the next 15 years inshAllah.
    Superb post

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfPakBreakfast View Post
    The two lads are absolutely the future of Pakistan cricket, which is why I would forensically manage their workload. Misbah has to be on the ball about this, otherwise we will waste these talents.

    Id make a point to go as far as not picking them for T20s at all. Shaheen especially does NOT need to play every game, and should be prioritised for tests and ODIs. He can get his t20 practice by playing in leagues. Same for Naseem.

    In Amir, Haris Rauf and Hasnain you have a strong enough first choice t20 attack. I understand that people are not keen on Hasnain, but that lad has a high ceiling. The t20 attack can further be supplemented by a returning Hassan Ali, an improved Dilber and hopefully a more seasoned Akif Javed. You mix and match the T20 and test squads to pick your ODI squad. Thus, the bowlers can be rotated in ODIs to further manage their workloads. It'll also allow the lads to learn new skills in the nets, rather than 'on the job'.

    That's how you make Shaheen and Naseem the future of Pakistan's bowling. If the PCB actually manage this well, that's two lads who could represent Pakistan for the next 15 years inshAllah.
    Fully agree. We have so many bowlers that if, God forbid, something happens to these boys because of workload, it'll be entirely because of inept management.

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    So Hasan Ali is already history?
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    Misbah’s comments on the pace attack: “Yes this will be a huge opportunity as you only get experienced after going through such trials; England bowling has experience which our line-up does not have but the potential and quality that our bowlers have is no less than that of the opposition; I am confident that even our youngsters will play the same amount of cricket as their English counterparts and perform in the same way in the future; In terms of potential, Shaheen, Naseem and Abbas have proved themselves in whatever cricket they have played so far and they have another big chance to prove themselves in these conditions and stamp their authority to show everyone that they belong at this level of cricket”


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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    So Hasan Ali is already history?
    He is not in league of these two.
    But he will still be in the plans for Loi cricket.


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