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Old 31st July 2007, 20:26
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PCB issues warning to Inzamam-ul-Haq

Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Naseem Ashraf issued a clear warning to former captain Inzamam-ul-Haq, saying he would not be considered for national selection if he decides to play for the breakaway Indian Cricket League.
"Since the International Cricket Council (ICC) does not recognise this private tournament our position is clear - any Pakistani player who plays in the league will not be considered for national selection again," Ashraf told.
"Our policy is clear we will not give permission to any of our players to play in the Indian league as it is not supported by the officialdom," he said.
Inzamam, who has been ignored by the PCB for a central contract after announcing retirement from the one-day cricket following Pakistan's World Cup debacle, yesterday said he would like to play in the league if the terms were right from the ICL organisers.
Former Pakistan captain Rashid Latif also said from London that he had also been spoken to by the ICL organisers but would not go to India unless he got PCB clearance.
"It is all too premature but I would like to have clearance from the PCB to play in the ICL," he added.
Rashid said he was interested in playing in the ICL if the money was good but not at the risk of spoiling his relations with the board.
Cricket analysts, however, have questioned how the board could stop those players from accepting contracts from the ICL who are not contracted to them.
"Basically, if you go to court it comes down to depriving a professional the right to earn from his profession if he has no legal obligations with the governing authority. The same thing happened during the Kerry Packer days," said an analyst
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Old 31st July 2007, 20:57
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On par with what other cricket boards have said. I don't see why Inzi would want to go anyways, the schedule clashes with the test season doesn't it?
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Old 31st July 2007, 20:59
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Not a big deal - I can't see Inzamam wanting to play league cricket in India, instead of Test matches for Pakistan. Not a problem.
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Old 31st July 2007, 21:08
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Not a big deal - I can't see Inzamam wanting to play league cricket in India, instead of Test matches for Pakistan. Not a problem.
I think it is a big deal. Whether or not he wants to play in the India league doesn't matter. Its the fact that he is being stopped from playing in it. Why?
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Old 31st July 2007, 21:12
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I can see Dr. Lottaa regretting his decision to not offer a contract to Inzi now; lappar para muunh per to phir apni auqat mein aaaya
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Old 31st July 2007, 21:13
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Old 31st July 2007, 21:16
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I think it is a big deal. Whether or not he wants to play in the India league doesn't matter. Its the fact that he is being stopped from playing in it. Why?
Because it (a) Interferes with Pakistan's schedule and (b) isn't sanction by the ICC.

The Australian board has said the same thing to its players.
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Old 31st July 2007, 21:17
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The warning is for all players not just Inzi. Some other players may also get contacted to play there and PCB issued the statement. PCB can even stop players from playing county if under contract. Sure they are paying some players (Asif and Gul) a lot of extra money for not playing county. They maybe going by what BCCI or maybe what ICC wants them to do.

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"Since the International Cricket Council (ICC) does not recognise this private tournament our position is clear - any Pakistani player who plays in the league will not be considered for national selection again,"
we see a few non recognized matches so why not this. The reason is above

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Old 31st July 2007, 22:01
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The warning is for all players not just Inzi. Some other players may also get contacted to play there and PCB issued the statement. PCB can even stop players from playing county if under contract. Sure they are paying some players (Asif and Gul) a lot of extra money for not playing county. They maybe going by what BCCI or maybe what ICC wants them to do.

we see a few non recognized matches so why not this. The reason is above


The magic word is 'Under Contract'...is Inzi under contract?
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Old 1st August 2007, 01:44
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It is nice that DNA thirst for media make him say this in advance. Otherwise they could have used this as an excuse against Inzi elimination from test squad. I hope Inzi wouldnt sign a contract with indians and PCB will consider him for test matches without any reservations.

I am sure like dope testings on Asif and Akhtar, now DNA will regret if he would have waited to let Inzi play in India and then not select him based on this excuse.

I am sure DNA being a friend of Musharaf doctor brother in Chicago USA is only there in Pakistan to fulfill his dream of traveling the world and to screw PCB and loot the money and then come back to USA and enjoy rest of his life.
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Old 1st August 2007, 04:35
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WHy is latif saying he will ask the PCB
HOw does the PCB concern him now
he has no chance of returning
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Old 1st August 2007, 05:46
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It is nice that DNA thirst for media make him say this in advance. Otherwise they could have used this as an excuse against Inzi elimination from test squad. I hope Inzi wouldnt sign a contract with indians and PCB will consider him for test matches without any reservations.

I am sure like dope testings on Asif and Akhtar, now DNA will regret if he would have waited to let Inzi play in India and then not select him based on this excuse.

I am sure DNA being a friend of Musharaf doctor brother in Chicago USA is only there in Pakistan to fulfill his dream of traveling the world and to screw PCB and loot the money and then come back to USA and enjoy rest of his life.
EXACTLY!!!
It's a good thing that DNA has come out in public and said all this, Inzi should NOW avoid any links with Indian league and concentrate on fitness so that selectors don't use fitness as an excuse and there is no way they can drop him for tests against SA, Ind and Aus if he is fit.
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Old 1st August 2007, 16:45
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its jsut a stupid 20 20 league, i dont kow what all the fuss is about. t is street cricket.

But still, what's PCB's problem. Where does it say that the ICC has to recognize every tournament or league. ANy player should be allowed to play n whatever league he wants
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Old 1st August 2007, 17:19
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Dear friends, please pay attention to the details. Inziman is not stoped by the board but wanred to not to play in another league or he will not be selected. That means that he could play in another league if he choses to but he wont be selected if he would. I think thats a fair warning to not just Inzimam but anyoneone who would be interested in playing for Pakistan. I dont see a problem in it.

"Naseem Ashraf issued a clear warning to former captain Inzamam-ul-Haq, saying he would not be considered for national selection if he decides to play for the breakaway Indian Cricket League."
He further added, "Our policy is clear we will not give permission to any of our players to play in the Indian league as it is not supported by the officialdom."

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Old 1st August 2007, 17:38
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Dear friends, please pay attention to the details. Inziman is not stoped by the board but wanred to not to play in another league or he will not be selected.

So in essence, he is pretty much stopped by PCB despite the fact that they don't want to give him a contract: how is he supposed to pay his bills?

It is kind of like FAA telling a pilot that you can join any airline but you better not be flying...what is the pilot supposed to do then, drive a cab instead to pay his bills?
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Old 1st August 2007, 17:41
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Breaking News! Telephones are now available in Pakistan.

Nothing stopping PCB contacting Inzi (I'm sure they have his number) and saying:

'Inzi, no need to sign - we think you'll be part of our plans'

OR

'You aren't part of our plans, so you are free to earn a living in any way you please'

In fact, Inzi could make the call! Either way, the TELEPHONE EXISTS!!!
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Old 1st August 2007, 18:05
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Ditto...why the need to warn him or issue a warning; these are all adults here, unless Dr. Lottaa thinks it is a Nursery class environment and he is the 'Head Mashter'...and he has to put his foot down by bullying the kids!

Why not talk in private to clear any confusions?
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Old 1st August 2007, 19:20
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Have to applaud the PCB for finally showing some backbone

Sends a message to any other aspiring rebels.
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Old 1st August 2007, 19:28
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I didn't get the point .''we don't want u in the team''.But ''u shouldn't play for any other team or club or whatever it is''.Is that it means?
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Old 1st August 2007, 19:29
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I didn't get the point .''we don't want u in the team''.But ''u shouldn't play for any other team or club or whatever it is''.Is that it means?
A pretty ironic post if you read it carefully...
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Old 1st August 2007, 19:34
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For Inzi i can understand but why would R Latif need clearance from the PCB?
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Old 1st August 2007, 19:39
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For Inzi i can understand but why would R Latif need clearance from the PCB?
He may have future aspirations to be employed as a coach in some capacity
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Old 1st August 2007, 19:42
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Breaking News! Telephones are now available in Pakistan.

Nothing stopping PCB contacting Inzi (I'm sure they have his number) and saying:

'Inzi, no need to sign - we think you'll be part of our plans'

OR

'You aren't part of our plans, so you are free to earn a living in any way you please'

In fact, Inzi could make the call! Either way, the TELEPHONE EXISTS!!!
Please find me the quote where Ashraf is warning Inzamam not to join the ICL. The quotes I see from the article are:

"Since the International Cricket Council (ICC) does not recognise this private tournament our position is clear - any Pakistani player who plays in the league will not be considered for national selection again."

"Our policy is clear we will not give permission to any of our players to play in the Indian league as it is not supported by the officialdom."



Both those statements are talking about Pakistani players in general, not just Inzamam.
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Old 1st August 2007, 19:49
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He may have future aspirations to be employed as a coach in some capacity
oh ok thanks...i get it now.
So i assume the likes of Lara, Mcgrath and Warne have already been allowed to participate.
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Old 1st August 2007, 21:10
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It is very unfortunate decision of the PCB especially if we think outside the box. DNA said “any player who will play in Indian league will not be selected for Pakistan team in future”, which mean he essentially closed door on all emerging players who are fighting for a place in Pakistan team or inspiring to be in Pakistan team.

We all know, any one who will play cricket at any competitive level will wish to be selected for the national team, and many people keep their hopes alive for very long or until they get selected or get retired, e.g. Younis Ahmad played for Pakistan when he was in 40s, Misbah is hoping to play for Pakistan in his thirties.

Based on DNA this statement all Pakistani cricketers, who play domestic cricket, should live in poverty and shouldn’t avail such opportunities unless they want to sacrifice their any hope of playing for their nation. For example, there are many youngsters who are very entertaining to watch and are very talented players but being ignored by PCB for so long (Hafeez and Imran Nazir are recently called in Pakistan side, previously they were ignored), similarly what guarantee Navid ul Hassan or Mushtaq Ahmad or Muhammad Zahid have for getting back into Pakistan national side? So what if Indian league offer them a decent contract for playing? According to DNA policy, they should rather wait till their retirement if they will get a chance for Pakistan team, or if they go for playing in India then they will be black listed for lifetime from playing for Pakistan.

For me it is very hard to understand, if Afridi goes to South Africa to play league cricket, many Pakistani players go to England to play county cricket, then there is nothing wrong, but if they go to India to play some competitive cricket in front of cricket crazy nation then it is wrong.

Only thing I could understand is PCB fear that if this experiment in India proved very successful, then there are chances that in Pakistan with a 150 million population someone may try same approach and if it is privately done, then Musharaf wouldn’t select his favorite dog to loot PCB money, and will result in decrease in PCB revenue and thus DNA post will loose its charm.
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Old 1st August 2007, 21:16
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Please find me the quote where Ashraf is warning Inzamam not to join the ICL. The quotes I see from the article are:

"Since the International Cricket Council (ICC) does not recognise this private tournament our position is clear - any Pakistani player who plays in the league will not be considered for national selection again."

"Our policy is clear we will not give permission to any of our players to play in the Indian league as it is not supported by the officialdom."



Both those statements are talking about Pakistani players in general, not just Inzamam.

My post just looks at this from Inzi's point of view. I am not too interested in any other players re: the ICL at this moment...which is why I specifically use him in my example.
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Old 1st August 2007, 21:21
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how is icl any different to freaking english counties.... i don't understand
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Old 1st August 2007, 21:23
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how is icl any different to freaking english counties.... i don't understand
1) Money
2) Not ICC sanctioned
3) Twenty20 only
4) Trying to attract bigger names which in turn may create confrontation
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Old 5th August 2007, 07:15
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The Chief Selector Salahuddin was quite scathing and categoric about Inzamam's possible move to play in the Indian cricket circus. I did not get to talk to him directly last night in a function, over the issue but he was quite dismissive of the cricket regime and the status of players participating in it.
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