razzaq as captain

[safehands46]

I think its time pakistan looks past younis and thinks about razzaq and possibly malik or butt as vice captain. Razzaq is the most solid player we have he might not lead aside with his bowling but he is intelligent enough to know his bowlers. waqar younis among others has said an all rounder always makes the better captain. hell be no imran but atleast he is dependable and responsible in the middle order. there fore i nominate him as captain and a possibly long serving one. He should certainly improve as a test player though.

Another note i believe inzi will retire if he loses the india series. there would be no reason for him to play on. right now he is playing because he can lead a young squad and i might be underestimating the fight in him to keep on carrying the batting the way he has had to.

[MIG]

Razzaq is an excellent person but making him the captain will be the classic case of choosing a captain on seniority rather than based on actual mangerial skills.

Firstly, we are talking ODI ? Razzaq has a problem being included in the test squad once the likes of Gul or Shabbir are fit again or some new fast bowler emerges.

So for ODI:

Will Razzaq be able to rein in the likes of Afridi or Akhtar ? Can he manage the players into a fighting unit - IMHO , he is a great guy but too humble to be a Pakistani captain !

Better candidates are Afridi and Salman

[KB]

Firstly, not sure whether Razzaq is certain of a place in the Test side.

Second issue is, I have always got the impression - and I could be wrong - that Razzaq is the sort who needs guidance rather than one who can give it out.

Thirdly, there are times when he has shown that he does not read the game well. His batting in the Test at the MCG was evidence of this.

However that said, it can be difficult from a distance to judge who could make a good captain.

[Fessal]

Originally Posted by MenInGreen Razzaq is an excellent person but making him the captain will be the classic case of choosing a captain on seniority rather than based on actual mangerial skills. Firstly, we are talking ODI ? Razzaq has a problem being included in the test squad once the likes of Gul or Shabbir are fit again or some new fast bowler emerges. So for ODI: Will Razzaq be able to rein in the likes of Afridi or Akhtar ? Can he manage the players into a fighting unit - IMHO , he is a great guy but too humble to be a Pakistani captain ! Better candidates are Afridi and Salman

Well said. Razzaq is a good person but we need a captain who pushes his players and gets the best out of them. We need a captain with a sparkle and light to ignite the rest, tell the players off when needed and be his own man but not afraid to ask for help. A captain who is a real leader and has good cricket brain and sense, who can communicate and work with all players and especially coach. etc etc

I cant think of one person currently who fits the bill. Some players come close or have some qualities but lack a crucial quality required. Eg, Azhar Mahmood, Younis Khan etc aren't regulars, Shoaib cant lead himself never mind managing others, Razzaq is not a leader etc

[Rudi hater]

We can have seperate captains for ODI and tests.

I would suggest:

Shahid Afridi (captain) Malik (vice captain) for ODI.

They both are permenant feature of ODI team and Afridi has fighting skills, he is sort of agressive cricketer we need to lead from front.

For tests:

Younis Khan (Captain) Tuafeeq Umar (Vice Captain)

Younis is a fighter and have proven his abilities in test matches, he is alo very positive and agressive charachter which is missing right now from Pakistan cricket.

Having said that I would stick with Inzi for the time being till his tenure expires.

I know I will get caned for this but I believe in having one captain and that captain should be Youhana as Younis and TAufeeq are useless batsmen who have not done a thing in tests. Imran Farhat and Malik are far better picks.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

there is no way pak will employ seperate skippers - can u imagine the problems that could arise from that even though i would like to see that happen

taufeeq is definitely skipper material once he establishes himslef again

i dont like this dual captaincy i would have someone who is a commander of respect has captain and persoannally only inzi can do that

[safehands46]

well since razzaq has the ability to lead with his bat, I thought it was fitting. But truly afridi he is more of extovert naturally the way he plays. He is more like wasim akram in the ethusiasm department. we would be fooling ourself by saying that younis khan will be a captain like imran or akram. simply put razzaq or maybe afridi are the most qualified. the problem is none of our players are distinguished at the test level.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

younis would make a good skipper imo

[Sheikh_Ji]

Razzaq has a cool head but he lacks in the tactical side....he can't read the game |-F |-F
Afridi definately doesnt hav eth brains to be a captain...but has the brawns |-D
Malik would be my candidate to become the VC..and eventually take over from Inzi... Salli Butt has been the captain in the Under 19 and under 15 level...so he is also potential captain material.....Taufeeq Umar i think definately has the brains for the job....its a pity he cant find a permanenet spot in the squad at the moment

[Mercenary]

Razzaq cant read the game but Afridi can?

sorry but btween the two i think Razzaq would make a better captain altho Afridi would make a more entertaining captain.

We should let him captain us vs India just for a laugh!!

[Jahangir Khan]

I think , if he can bowl again Shoaib Malik is a possible Captain in the long term. But for now, it's gotta be out of Yoyo or Younis after Inzi.

Yoyo has not been too bad when he has captained. He is generally laid back but I think making him captain will make him think more about his game and he may become a better player with greater focus.

We have to understand that people like Imran Khan, Javed Miandad and Wasim Akram are not born everyday. We may not get another natural leader for a long time.

[Mercenary]

my 2 cents would be t give it to Malik after the Windies series!

By then we should know if he can sustain is form with the bat in both tests and ODI's!!

If he can then he will be one of our top 3 bats no doubt!

[Rudi hater]

I think Afridi is one of those guys who can take a risk or two which means that he will force a result rather sitting back. Rather like Imran he used to take risks and try things hence Afridi will be better. Razzaq and Inzi are about the same so no point going from sleeping head to the other.

No. He's a good player but not captain material IMO

[Rob H]

Malik is a future captain i have to agree

[Amjid Javed]

razzaq shud be odi skipper with salman butt as his deputy...! any1 but inzi shud be test skipper!

[Naveed]

Razzaq is a solid ODI player. However those that think that he should be captain are making the classic mistake of not thinking about what it actually means to be captain. The leadership, the dedication, the sacrifice, the strategic thinking. You don't just simply hand over the captaincy to someone without taking into account all of these factors.

I haven't seen any of this from Razzaq. He, in fact, seems to be a painfully shy person. Part of the reason for these runouts that he is involved in is that he actually can't get himself to yell out a call.

Solid player but not captaincy material. I think that the only player that currently comes close to possessing the required qualities is Younis Khan.

[Amjid Javed]

|-A we dont need a non-playing captain!

we are not new zealand naveed...!

a skipper has to earn his place inside 1st...! something YK doesnt in odis!

we cant afford passengers in the side! |-F |-F

[Naveed]

Ok, Amjid what qualities do you think are required in a captain and do you think Razzak possesses them?

Younis Khan can be a captain in the Nasser Hussain, Brearely mode.

[Fessal]

Sadly there is not one player who deserves to be captain or fits the bill. May as well just make me captain and I can communicate with Bob much better than the rest.

[Amjid Javed]

A captain has 2 be procative, comand respect of others, be tactically aware and also be tough for mental battles. A skipper is one who leads from front in tough and bad situations. I think Razzaq is a smart enuf player to be an odi skipper.

however i wudnt let razzaq anywhere near team as a test player.

YK may look prime candidate but sadly hes not even a regular in either side consitantly!

[Khalil]

YoYo will be the best option we currently have

[zorawar]

Razzaq is not captaincy material. Hell of a ODI player though!

[Naveed]

Well Amjid, I guess that you know much more about cricket and what it takes to be captain than Imran Khan.

[Hash]

sometimes I find it difficult to judge whetehr Gary is being sarcastic or not :-D

[Amjid Javed]

wasnt imran khan guy who said imran nazir was a world class talent? enuf said....!

[Naveed]

Ok Amjid, you're right, you have much better cricketing knowledge than Imran.

[Amjid Javed]

did i say i knew more than imran? no!

Just coz imrans a gr8 ex player doesnt mean hes always right... sadly most peep seem 2 think anything any cricketer says is always right!

[Bailan]

wasnt imran khan guy who said imran nazir was a world class talent? enuf said....!

I agree Imran Nazir is a world class talent .... is he doing any justice to it??? thats his problem ... not imrans'

[Naveed]

Well this what Imran exactly said about Imran Nazir:

"The coach who was paid a quarter of a million dollars a year had never possessed the qualities necessary for accomplishing such a task successfully. There was no domestic cricket structure. Pakistan had super abundant cricket talent but it was just not being tapped or it was being wasted away as happened in the case of a potential world-class player like Imran Nazir. "

Basically that he had world class talent but it was wasted away

Are you saying that you disagree?

[Raz]

Shahid for captain at ODI

Younis at Test level

Or maybe Shoaib Akhtar for captain in both Test and ODI. Maybe then he will stop visiting night clubs and put the team before himself!

[Amjid Javed]

ok naveed, u just listen 2 imran khan.

[Naveed]

In any event, what Imran does know about are the leadership qualities that make a successful captain. Qualities that separate the Pontings, Waughs, Flemings, Imrans from the Inzis, Waqars, Laras of the world.

Top global corporations don't appoint CEOs because the seem to be "smart enuf" as you would say, they appoint true leaders who have the inherant qualities to get the most of the people that work for them.

[Naveed]

Well given a choice between listening to Imran Khan and Amjid Javed....

[safehands46]

Sometimes imran khan says things out of anger its the patan style. dont you know thats wat makes us leaders. By the way a few years back people talked about grooming abdur razzaq, he is the most qualified. shoaib malik is inexperienced compared to him. give razzaq or afridi a chance these guys play for the team not selfish ******** who play for them selves

[Naveed]

I don't see any leadership qualities in Razzaq or Afridi. Can you enlighten me as to what you see and I don't? I do see some in Malik but you are right he is inexperienced.

[Awesome Anjum]

I've met Razzak, he's a very nice guy - but certainly not Captaincy material. He is the type who looks for guidance, rather than give it. He is also not assured a place in the Test side.