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Old 11th November 2010, 00:10
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Pakistan's Performance Under Ijaz Butt's Regime

since ejaz butt has taken over PCB,Pakistans performance is as follows

test matches

matches played won lost draws
17 3 10 4

played 6 series ,lost 3 and 3 draws

one day matches:
played 53 won 26 lost 26 , 7 wins against bangladesh and 4 against the windies


last year we won only 7 one days out of 21 and this year is even worse 5 out of 17 so far . We are declining at the rapid pace.
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:11
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even these results flatter the old windbag
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:15
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Ya and thing looking even worse ,we are being treated as minnows now. Every team in the world will visit england twice before 2015 bariing the minnows and we are one of them now. We only play like 8 9 tests a year. BUtt has pushed our cricket to the edge , why doent icc sack him if zardari cant.
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:16
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How many matches did Ijaz Butt play ??
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:20
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Pakistan's performance under Ijaz Butt? You mean underneath him? well yeah coz he's so fat.
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:21
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well Jibran to be fair that England schedule was drawn up in 2009; Pakistan had 2 series, 2010 and 2015, just like other teams
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:24
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Pakistan's performance under Ijaz Butt? You mean underneath him? well yeah coz he's so fat.
lol yeah.
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:25
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well Jibran to be fair that England schedule was drawn up in 2009; Pakistan had 2 series, 2010 and 2015, just like other teams
yah but sonay pe suhaga , we will only be playing two test matches. Two are for minnows and that too after 5 years . inni?
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:26
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How many matches did Ijaz Butt play ??
8 matches back in 60s
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Old 11th November 2010, 00:43
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at the end of the day, it's the players that 'try' to win.
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Old 11th November 2010, 03:39
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No, no youve got it all wrong. Delete this thread at once.

"Everything is fine, PCB doing a good job"
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Old 11th November 2010, 04:18
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The only way i see ijaz butt being sacked:

Organize a series with india somehow.

Looking at current state of things, Pak can be sure to get white washed.

Public emotions flare to great heights and naturally Butt gets suspended.
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Old 11th November 2010, 04:23
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The only way i see ijaz butt being sacked:

Organize a series with india somehow.

Looking at current state of things, Pak can be sure to get white washed.

Public emotions flare to great heights and naturally Butt gets suspended.
lol not a bad idea if we arrange it with Australia or South Africa on bouncing tracks, they're typically our hardest team to face.

No offence but India atm is worse than RSA...I know they're ranked above but that's because of the last two years in general, especially the 2008-09 season where they were briliant with Zaheer and Harbhajan in form. Plus Pakistan seem to up their game v India, so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a whitewash
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Old 11th November 2010, 04:28
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If you lose to aus/Rsa , emotions wont be flared up as i said before.
Its gotta be india.

getting whitewashed, oh well, we can FIX that issue
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Old 11th November 2010, 06:20
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What was their performance under the previous chairman?
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Old 11th November 2010, 06:25
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We won the world cup and first test against Aus since 1995.
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Old 11th November 2010, 07:52
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8 matches back in 60s
8 matches with average of 19.92 (Pakistan opening problems are not new)
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Old 11th November 2010, 08:00
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Izaj Butt is just a puppet.


Pakistan cricket has been going down rapidly since a gambler/betting person became patron in chief of PCB. Too many corruption charges during this time. Too many poor performances. No wonder the results are poor
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Old 11th November 2010, 08:01
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I think Pakistan's ranking has been on continous decline since last few years.

I remember when Inzmam was captain (Naseem Ashraf was Chairman PCB) we were not very outstanding but we were still among best 4 ODI teams. Its after 2007 World Cup that we have chosen one way and that is downwards and to be very honest it started when Naseem Ashraf was there. He announced lot of plans when his resignation was refused by then Patron of PCB but he failed to implement the basic of the things. (No way, I am defending I Butt but I think he took over the sinking ship and made sure that it touches the rock bottom).

Apart from Board's incompetencies and all match fixing, in-team fighting and other corruption issues, we have to consider that:

1. Pakistan have not played that many matches, its only this summer than we have started playing back to back series.

2. Teams refusal to come to Pakistan (rightly so after what happened to SL team), most of the matches have been played on away soil which is a big factor
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Old 11th November 2010, 08:06
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Izaj Butt is just a puppet.


Pakistan cricket has been going down rapidly since a gambler/betting person became patron in chief of PCB. Too many corruption charges during this time. Too many poor performances. No wonder the results are poor
I have to agree I may sound like Sarfraz Nawaz but Pakistan team was not so much into corruption before Ijaz Butt's regime. There were in team fighting and indiscipline but this fixing thing have been gifted by this regime for sure.
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Old 11th November 2010, 09:27
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should the WC win be credited to him as well then?

or are the defeats only his fault?
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Old 11th November 2010, 09:34
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The only way i see ijaz butt being sacked:

Organize a series with india somehow.

Looking at current state of things, Pak can be sure to get white washed.


Public emotions flare to great heights and naturally Butt gets suspended.


you wish, our inside 'jaanwar' wakes up when playing against India, Won't be easy to beat Pakistan.
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Old 11th November 2010, 09:35
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should the WC win be credited to him as well then?

or are the defeats only his fault?
it shhould be credited to him. so here is the score

credits = 1

defeats/faults = gazillion.
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Old 11th November 2010, 09:42
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only 1 point?! I daresay winning a WC is a pretty big deal.
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Old 11th November 2010, 09:45
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you wish, our inside 'jaanwar' wakes up when playing against India, Won't be easy to beat Pakistan.
But, no butt and malik to the aid.Then how?
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Old 11th November 2010, 11:50
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Pakistan's performance under Ijaz Butt? You mean underneath him? well yeah coz he's so fat.
That actually made me laugh out loud. Now my mum thinks I’m mad
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Old 11th November 2010, 21:32
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I think Pakistan's ranking has been on continous decline since last few years.

I remember when Inzmam was captain (Naseem Ashraf was Chairman PCB) we were not very outstanding but we were still among best 4 ODI teams. Its after 2007 World Cup that we have chosen one way and that is downwards and to be very honest it started when Naseem Ashraf was there. He announced lot of plans when his resignation was refused by then Patron of PCB but he failed to implement the basic of the things. (No way, I am defending I Butt but I think he took over the sinking ship and made sure that it touches the rock bottom).

Apart from Board's incompetencies and all match fixing, in-team fighting and other corruption issues, we have to consider that:

1. Pakistan have not played that many matches, its only this summer than we have started playing back to back series.

2. Teams refusal to come to Pakistan (rightly so after what happened to SL team), most of the matches have been played on away soil which is a big factor
Nice comment Fully agree with you!
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Old 12th November 2010, 05:29
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Butts International career summary taken from wikipedia.
Butt played Test cricket between 1959 and 1962. He made his Test debut at Karachi on February 20 1959. The tourists, bowled out cheaply for 146 in the first innings, conceded a 10-wicket defeat with Butt scoring 14 and 41 not out as a specialist opener. He scored two, 21, 47* and two in the rest of the series. Between March 26 and December 4 he played two more Tests against Australia, scoring a career-best 58 in the second Test. He was then left out of the team until 1962, where he toured England for three Test matches. He struggled, scoring 10, 33, one, six, 10 and six before being dropped.
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