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Old 19th May 2012, 03:20
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Bookie claims he paid Sri Lanka cricketer Rs 10 crore to fix IPL match

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MUMBAI: Bookie Sonu Yogendra Jalan alias Malad has told the crime branch that he paid Rs 10 crore to a Sri Lankan cricket player for fixing a match. He also mentioned that some Indian cricketers were also involved in match fixing, sources said.

He along with Devendra Kothari alias Bhaiyyaji, were arrested by the city crime branch on Thursday. They are believed to be a part of a bigger international cricket betting racket, crime branch officials said.

The property cell of Mumbai crime branch on Thursday raided a building at Lokhandwala in Kandivli and busted a major cricket betting racket. Police arrested Kothari, Jalan and two others and seized two laptops, voice recorders, computers, 25 mobile phones and cash of Rs 5.18 lakh. All the accused were booked under prevention of gambling act and were remanded to police custody.

Sources said that Kothari and Sonu Jalan's betting network, whose turn over is around Rs 500 crore a month, is controlled by a Pakistan-based gang belonging to Chhota Shakeel. Sonu Jalan was arrested last year from Andheri in another case of gambling by the Social Service branch. Kothari was also an accused in that case and was not traceable.

In the fresh case, Kothari and Jalan had clients and punters in Afghanistan, Pakistan, South Africa and Saudi Arabia. In India, the gang has their associates in Delhi, Kolkata, Rajasthan, Gujarat and Haryana.

"We had information that the gang was accepting bets on the IPL matches. Based on the information, we have arrested them. The gang is well-organised with having all the betting assessment software with them which helps them in managing their betting business" said Deven Bharti, additional commissioner of police.

The gang also asked their member or associates to open an account with the official UK betting site Betfair and passed on the passwords to Sonu and Kothari, who accessed it, found out the rates and accepted the bets accordingly. One cannot place on line bets on Betfair in India as betting on sport is illegal here.

Sonu, while in custody, had earlier told the police that he had paid around Rs 1 crore to an IPS officer for not arresting him. But he was arrested. He had threatened to lodge a complaint with the state anti-corruption bureau, but went on the backfoot after another senior IPS officer intervened.
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Old 19th May 2012, 03:23
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I have no doubt fixing happens however if no names are mentioned or proof than the source has no credibility.
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Old 19th May 2012, 03:28
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Yawn allegations by bookies. This has never happened before.
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Old 19th May 2012, 05:00
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They have a turnover of 500 crores per month?!

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Old 19th May 2012, 05:27
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Sonu, while in custody, had earlier told the police that he had paid around Rs 1 crore to an IPS officer for not arresting him. But he was arrested. He had threatened to lodge a complaint with the state anti-corruption bureau, but went on the backfoot after another senior IPS officer intervened.
Never trust IPS officer. They will take the money but will do their duty too.
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Old 19th May 2012, 05:44
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Old 19th May 2012, 05:55
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as expected they dont name the player.how predictable
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Old 19th May 2012, 18:05
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Not a good week for the IPL.

Plenty for Ravi Sawani to get his teeth into and let's hope that thorough investigations are carried out.

My concern is that it's the BCCI basically investigating the BCCI.
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Old 19th May 2012, 18:28
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"Sources said that Kothari and Sonu Jalan's betting network, whose turn over is around Rs 500 crore a month, is controlled by a Pakistan-based gang belonging to Chhota Shakeel."

Oh no! Why always Pakistan?!
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Old 19th May 2012, 18:31
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Old 19th May 2012, 18:32
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I was just about to start a thread on IPL match fixing, I mean one or two is ok but recently all the matches have been going to the last ball or last couple of deliveries, ridiculous catches being dropped, easy wickets being given. A stage play couldn't be better scripted.
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Old 19th May 2012, 18:40
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I was just about to start a thread on IPL match fixing, I mean one or two is ok but recently all the matches have been going to the last ball or last couple of deliveries, ridiculous catches being dropped, easy wickets being given. A stage play couldn't be better scripted.
The way McCullum has played throughout the tournament, looks very suspicious.
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Old 19th May 2012, 18:43
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"Sources said that Kothari and Sonu Jalan's betting network, whose turn over is around Rs 500 crore a month, is controlled by a Pakistan-based gang belonging to Chhota Shakeel."

Oh no! Why always Pakistan?!
Calm down mate, nothing is even proven yet. No pics, vids or recordings of any kind whatsoever.

You guys accused Nasir Jamshed and Rana Hasan of being match-fixers too, don't forget.

Btw if this is true, do you reckon someone will actually come out and say, "yeh, I work for X". Come on
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Old 19th May 2012, 18:47
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Calm down mate, nothing is even proven yet. No pics, vids or recordings of any kind whatsoever.

You guys accused Nasir Jamshed and Rana Hasan of being match-fixers too, don't forget.

Btw if this is true, do you reckon someone will actually come out and say, "yeh, I work for X". Come on
I know these are fake stories...made my Indians. Pakistan is my 2nd team, after BD. It makes me so angry, when I see Pakistan's name in match fixing issues.
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Old 19th May 2012, 18:50
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Chota Chetan is Dawood's right hand, right?
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Old 19th May 2012, 19:07
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No substance to these allegations again.
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Old 19th May 2012, 19:41
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The BCCI and the people running this industry are too powerful to let "proof" of any substance be allowed to become public, they will throw in the odd fishbone (case in point included) to show they're doing their part and even then the blame will lead partially or otherwise to someone else.
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Old 19th May 2012, 20:36
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Chota Shakeel is in US nowdays fixing League matches here :smh
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Old 20th May 2012, 05:31
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These fixing scandals will never be solved in places like India or Pakistan unless we call upon Batman. Hes the only one who can solve this case.
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Old 20th May 2012, 07:06
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Of all the hundreds of allegations by subcontinent bookies over the years, how many have resulted in any factual evidence? They are liars trying to make a name for themselves.
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Old 20th May 2012, 08:18
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Sources said that Kothari and Sonu Jalan's betting network, whose turn over is around Rs 500 crore a month, is controlled by a Pakistan-based gang belonging to Chhota Shakeel.
Well that solves all the issues related to financing of PPL.
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Old 20th May 2012, 08:35
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These are not people making allegations For the sake of it or 'trying to make a name' for themselves! These bookies have been arrested and are making statements to the police.

I really don't understand why people on this forum want to just whistle in the wind pretending match fixing doesn't happen!

If they don't name names, there may be a valid reason
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Old 20th May 2012, 08:43
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Match fixing happens.

The bookies give names in statements in order to cooperate and get a lesser penalty.

The arresting officer or group get their name in the media all over the world.

Everytime there is an arrest some bookie starts singing, these statements have resulted in how many players being charged? How many players have been named? Just about all of them.

It is quite easy to believe match fixing happens and also believe that these statements have no substance,
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Old 20th May 2012, 10:54
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Calm down mate, nothing is even proven yet. No pics, vids or recordings of any kind whatsoever.

You guys accused Nasir Jamshed and Rana Hasan of being match-fixers too, don't forget.

Btw if this is true, do you reckon someone will actually come out and say, "yeh, I work for X". Come on

What do you mean by we accused? They were found to be negotiating with bookies, its not that the securty said, this guy prob. did this. Guilty or not guilty at the end of the day they werent found guilty so no issues
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Old 20th May 2012, 17:35
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IPL is the modified version of WWE pure entertainment ... otherwise how can all the matches go till the last ball .. ??? such drama in the end in every match... its was very suspicious last year as well and this year the same! Scripted Cricket..
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The lesser the number of overs you deal with, the more it goes to the last ball. T20 cricket tends to be like that. In ODI, the chasing team usually takes 48-50 overs, in T20 it is like 19-20 overs for the average match.
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Match fixing happens.

The bookies give names in statements in order to cooperate and get a lesser penalty.

The arresting officer or group get their name in the media all over the world.

Everytime there is an arrest some bookie starts singing, these statements have resulted in how many players being charged? How many players have been named? Just about all of them.

It is quite easy to believe match fixing happens and also believe that these statements have no substance,
What's the point in a bookie name dropping if the authorities are not going to investigate in India? Kind of makes the point of a lesser penalty meaningless since the information bookies provide fail to vindicate them.

In contrast, the British Police forces do investigate. It was Westfield’s mate who name-dropped him which resulted in an investigation thus conviction. It was Westfield who then name-dropped Kaneria and subsequently Kaneria was investigated too.

Some people just seem to forget the process in which evidence is obtained. If an accusation requires evidence from the onset then 99% of criminal cases wouldn’t result in convictions.

Information – investigation – evidence. This is the process, be it crime, science, or any other walk of life. If after the investigation no evidence is found then it’s a different story but at least conduct an investigation.

How can it though? The Indian police are more corrupt than the bookies.
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Old 25th May 2012, 00:57
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What's the point in a bookie name dropping if the authorities are not going to investigate in India? Kind of makes the point of a lesser penalty meaningless since the information bookies provide fail to vindicate them.

In contrast, the British Police forces do investigate. It was Westfield’s mate who name-dropped him which resulted in an investigation thus conviction. It was Westfield who then name-dropped Kaneria and subsequently Kaneria was investigated too.

Some people just seem to forget the process in which evidence is obtained. If an accusation requires evidence from the onset then 99% of criminal cases wouldn’t result in convictions.

Information – investigation – evidence. This is the process, be it crime, science, or any other walk of life. If after the investigation no evidence is found then it’s a different story but at least conduct an investigation.

How can it though? The Indian police are more corrupt than the bookies.

Since the match fixing issue came up in the mid/late 90's there have been countless cricketers named by bookies as being corrupt. At once stage pretty much every international cricketer of note was named.

Almost none of these allegations have ever come to anything, which is why we are skeptical. Without substance it is just talk.
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How can it though? The Indian police are more corrupt than the bookies.
A bookie, by definition is a cheat, a crook, a liar. Why should the police bother to pay heed to every claim by bookies?
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Old 25th May 2012, 09:20
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Since the match fixing issue came up in the mid/late 90's there have been countless cricketers named by bookies as being corrupt. At once stage pretty much every international cricketer of note was named.

Almost none of these allegations have ever come to anything, which is why we are skeptical. Without substance it is just talk.
What substance are we talking here?
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Old 25th May 2012, 09:33
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A bookie, by definition is a cheat, a crook, a liar. Why should the police bother to pay heed to every claim by bookies?
Not every claim, but at least some of the claims should be investigated. How did Cronje-Gate come about? Through phone taps.

Pakistan Trio, 5 Indian Players, Westfield, Kenyan Player, Modi Trial all in the space of two years.

Police should bother because fixing isn't a one off - it's rampant - but the police play dumb while the media are providing evidence through sting operations.

Indian authorities pretend corruption doesn't exist because they are all in on it - top to bottom.
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Old 25th May 2012, 11:25
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What substance are we talking here?
Thats the point there isnt any. Just the usual innuendo.
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Old 25th May 2012, 11:29
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Thats the point there isnt any. Just the usual innuendo.
What I mean is what do you consider substance?
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Old 25th May 2012, 11:42
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What I mean is what do you consider substance?
Corroborating evidence. I would estimate i have seen more than 50 players named by bookies in my time watching cricket. The amount of times there has been any evidence to support their claims can be counted on one hand. If players are in pocket there should be phone records, bank records CCTV etc.

Im just very skeptical of claims like this. Maybe this one has substance but i would bet nothing will come of it.
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Not every claim, but at least some of the claims should be investigated. How did Cronje-Gate come about? Through phone taps.

Pakistan Trio, 5 Indian Players, Westfield, Kenyan Player, Modi Trial all in the space of two years.

Police should bother because fixing isn't a one off - it's rampant - but the police play dumb while the media are providing evidence through sting operations.

Indian authorities pretend corruption doesn't exist because they are all in on it - top to bottom.
Every one knows that there is wide spread corruption in most third world countries - and India is no exception. Otherwise there would not be any need of people like this- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvind_Kejriwal

Match fixing may be rampant but we need to make sure that no innocent player gets framed by this mafia - hence the need for reliable sources. Just the word of a bookie won't be enough.
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