Does Wasim Akram really care for Pakistan Cricket?

[Raza_Haider_Mohammad]

Does Wasim Akram really care for Pakistan Cricket?....he keeps bashing the PCB,Pakistani players,ex-players......he hardly does anything for the betterment of Pakistan cricket.....he is running after money and fame.....

[crazyfan]

agree with u

[cricketworm]

From now on, never say Pakistan has won any ODI world cup! Comprende?

[z-one-z]

Our best bowler on 1992 was him, why would he give his everything for Pakistan cricket if he didn't care for Pakistan

[Savak]

This is nothing new. Am shocked its just been noticed now.

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[mohsinr12]

He is currently doing Hunt for Heros with Ufone

[khizer123]

I think that he served pakistan for a very long time, and played his part for his country. I would like him to be a part of Pakistani Cricket. As for his personal life I dont think we have a right to judge.

[cricketjoshila]

He is the best left arm fast bowler ever.One of the best fast bowlers ever.And if anyone thinks Waqar is better than him,well dream on.No batsman expert has ever rated Waqar anywhere close to Wasim.

Who was the best bolwer for Pakistan in 1992 when they won the WC?Wasim
Who captained Pakistan to their second WC final?Wasim
WHo has most test and ODI wickets for Pakistan?Wasim
Who troubled the WI bastmen in mid 1980s when Pakistan almost won a series againist WI?Wasim
Who always stood up againist strong batting line ups like that of AUS India etc?Wasim
Who is widely regarded by the likes of Lara SRT Ponting Waugh as one of the best bowlers they faced?Wasim

And why is there so much hate for him?Let me guess...He works in India.

Waqar kicked the post of Pakistani coach and now does commentary lives and lives in Australia.

Mushy and Saqi live in England and coach other teams not Pakistan.

Atleast Wasim still lives in Pakistan,his kids live there.The amount of money he earns which is more than may be any other Pakistani cricketer and can easily live anywhere but chooses to live Pakistan.

Wasim doesnt own PCB anything.He works where he is loved respected honoured and paid.Unlike PCB which doesnt respect legends,is run by buffoons and all thy pay is peanuts to players and biriyani to their officials.

[z-one-z]

The only reason i like him is because he did something for my PAKISTAN!

[freelance_cricketer]

Bashing PCB, Pak Cricketers, ex players - What's wrong in it? Most of them deserved it.


Running behind money, fame, glamour - What's wrong in it? Everyone does that.






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[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

Guy is retired.He gave all his playing years to Pak cricket .What else do you want from him .Let him make some $$$.

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

Wasim also had good people skills and could manipulate people easily . These things take you far in real world.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila He is the best left arm fast bowler ever.One of the best fast bowlers ever.And if anyone thinks Waqar is better than him,well dream on.No batsman expert has ever rated Waqar anywhere close to Wasim. Who was the best bolwer for Pakistan in 1992 when they won the WC?Wasim Who captained Pakistan to their second WC final?Wasim WHo has most test and ODI wickets for Pakistan?Wasim Who troubled the WI bastmen in mid 1980s when Pakistan almost won a series againist WI?Wasim Who always stood up againist strong batting line ups like that of AUS India etc?Wasim Who is widely regarded by the likes of Lara SRT Ponting Waugh as one of the best bowlers they faced?Wasim And why is there so much hate for him?Let me guess...He works in India. Waqar kicked the post of Pakistani coach and now does commentary lives and lives in Australia. Mushy and Saqi live in England and coach other teams not Pakistan. Atleast Wasim still lives in Pakistan,his kids live there.The amount of money he earns which is more than may be any other Pakistani cricketer and can easily live anywhere but chooses to live Pakistan. Wasim doesnt own PCB anything.He works where he is loved respected honoured and paid.Unlike PCB which doesnt respect legends,is run by buffoons and all thy pay is peanuts to players and biriyani to their officials.

This. From people's posts from time to Time..I get a feeling that Wasim is way way way more respected in India, than Pakistan. I have never seen an India say anything bad abt wasim in a serious discussion....but here...its very often..sometimes Vikram, sometimes shameless....That Guy gave his best years of his cricket and life for pakistan cricket and was the world's best at what he did...

[Pakistaniboy]

Yes he does.

Do he want to work for PCB and Pak Cricket? NO.

Why?

Because of our corrupt and incompetent leadership and lack of respect for our legends.

Waqar didnt quit because of health issues, but most probably because of issues within the board.

Rameez Raja is not so interested in any role in PCB permanently because he know what it is like.

Wasim have two children he take care of and to do his best, he makes money.

Why should he do anything for our cricket after doing his best when he played for us?

He does not want to get involved in POLITICS.

He is helping out youngsters whenever he can and does whatever he can do for our bowlers and cricket!

[SIMBA]

Originally Posted by navroks123 This. From people's posts from time to Time..I get a feeling that Wasim is way way way more respected in India, than Pakistan. I have never seen an India say anything bad abt wasim in a serious discussion....but here...its very often..sometimes Vikram, sometimes shameless....That Guy gave his best years of his cricket and life for pakistan cricket and was the world's best at what he did...

Dont forget:

He is what he is because of: Pakistan.

Imran Khan is clearly the best cricketer when it comes to this issue - He gave away his life, family for pakistan!

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila He works where he is loved respected honoured and paid.

Bingo.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by SIMBA Dont forget: He is what he is because of: Pakistan. Imran Khan is clearly the best cricketer when it comes to this issue - He gave away his life, family for pakistan!

He is What he is coz he is what he is ....Pakistan has given a platform to expose his talent..and Wasim Akram has delivered awesomely in return for it.

While What Imran is doing is definately awesome....You cannot expect everybody to do the same. and Not doing what Imran is doing does not make them classless or shameless ...or ..Vikram..he is doing what every body is doing....doing work at a place where he gets paid, respected well...nothing wrong...and not awesome as well like Imran....just normal !!!!

[zulfiqar]

He is what he is because of Pakistan?? What does that mean? He is what he is because of a lot of things, not just Pakistan. It's like what ranatunga was saying about Malinga... totally disagree with this point of view.

Match-fixing allegations aside, Wasim is easily the 2nd best cricketer to have represented Pakistan at the world stage after Imran Khan. It's funny you guys think he owes the PCB. He DOES give advice to players who seek it. Him working as a coach in Pak has more to do with profession and his job, and if he cannot come to terms with an employer he has every right to pursue employment elsewhere.

It's absurd how people imply he "loves" India more just because he has a job there and says good thing about them. His fav cricketer is still IK, the country he represented when he lifted a cup was still Pak. Guys who bash him cuz he works in India are either people who despise India or think Waqar was better Both views need to be corrected ;)

[Savak]

I think he knows deep down he won't make a good coach. He mentions it so many times in interviews. Plus he has 2 kids to take care of alone hence he is within his rights to go to the highest paying employer.

As a player he may have been a great but he was also the biggest politician in the team hence he will do more harm than good if he gets involved with the team in any capacity. He was one of the main architects of Malik being appointed captain in 2007.

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[zulfiqar]

Savak, whether he will make a good coach or not is irrelevant to the point the OP is making about him "not caring about Pakistan cricket." He wants Wasim to serve the Pakistani Cricket Board till death, regardless of pay, respect and professionalism. Wasim was a professional, even Waqar admitted as much in an interview, that "he would be the first in the nets and the last to go."

IMO, yes, if any individual player wants help from him he should seek it and Wasim I'm 100% sure will help him out and work with him even for free, just because he wants Pak to do well. I'm sure behind the scenes he helped guys like Amir (whether that got Amir to jail or not is a different topic ). He does care, and he supports Pak. Some people just can't bare him working in India though I guess.

[zulfiqar]

And for your point on him worsening the team atmosphere, u really think Waqar was any better? Almost all ex-players will make bad coaches simply cuz they think they can come in the team and do whatever the hell they want. Most sports utilize coaches for exactly that purpose, but in cricket we all know its a little different and subcontinent culture just doesn't allow the captain/his lackies to answer to anyone. That's y they give a little more respect to an "outsider."

[Sohaib011]

you need to take off your anti-india shades man..he's doing whatever he wants to do and its his business..what you hate is the fact that why he didn't just disappear into obscurity like inzi and co

[Looney]

How many of us criticizing him have done as much for Pakistan as ? He has retired and may choose to work ( or not ) for whoever he likes . Who knows maybe he has his reasons he does not want to point out publicly to save Pakistan from more embarrassment ? I mean , we all know how PCB works . People like have lifetime memberships , patron is our president so there will be political influence , chairman selected by president who does not leave until the government falls , selectors panel and their merry go round , huge egos of , local players are not treated with as much respect . Those who work for them probably have to face much more that we don`t even know of . Maybe he does not want to be involved in it and I don`t blame him for it .

Dav Whatmore is getting paid 3 times more than . Why ? Can we blame our local coaches then for not working as hard and professionally as the foreign coaches ?

[Poison]

Why should he have to?

[SOSami]

Can we keep this debate at the very least remotely about cricket please.

[justarslan]

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila He is the best left arm fast bowler ever.One of the best fast bowlers ever.And if anyone thinks Waqar is better than him,well dream on.No batsman expert has ever rated Waqar anywhere close to Wasim.

Wasim was more skillful but Waqar more lethal.

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila Who was the best bolwer for Pakistan in 1992 when they won the WC?Wasim

Mustaq also took 16 wickets, only 2 less than Wasim with a better strike rate.

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila Who captained Pakistan to their second WC final?Wasim

He also gifted the win to Bangladesh in that same world cup. First is first, second is nothing as Shanks said.

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila Who troubled the WI bastmen in mid 1980s when Pakistan almost won a series againist WI?Wasim

It was Imran Khan.

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila Waqar kicked the post of Pakistani coach and now does commentary lives and lives in Australia.

Waqar rejected the offer to coach New South Wales state team to coach Pakistan in the first place.

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila Mushy and Saqi live in England and coach other teams not Pakistan.

We have not fought three wars against England.

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila Atleast Wasim still lives in Pakistan,his kids live there.The amount of money he earns which is more than may be any other Pakistani cricketer and can easily live anywhere but chooses to live Pakistan.

His living in Pakistan is no use to us if he does not help our young fast bowlers like Imran did with him and Waqar.

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila Wasim doesnt own PCB anything.He works where he is loved respected honoured and paid.Unlike PCB which doesnt respect legends,is run by buffoons and all thy pay is peanuts to players and biriyani to their officials.

PCB are not the first sporting organization to pay their players peanuts. Even Clive Lloyd, Ian Chappell, Vic Richards etc have complained in their biographies about getting paid peanuts by their respective boards. It is up to players to organize and create a cricketers union to lobby for better salaries from PCB. Then PCB will have to listen to them and they will get proper salary from PCB.

[Saj]

I think people who criticise Wasim they have to realise that he is a single parent with 2 sons. His family comes first.

Whenever the PCB have asked him to help with coaching camps, he has obliged.

He has also made it clear that he cannot work on a full time basis for the PCB, at best he can do short coaching stints.

In addition he has media assignments too.

[jalebi-lover]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer Bashing PCB, Pak Cricketers, ex players - What's wrong in it? Most of them deserved it. Running behind money, fame, glamour - What's wrong in it? Everyone does that. /rant

I think that is big difference between indians and pakistanis. He should be loyal to his country! and not run after the money

[khurramjamil]

Originally Posted by Saj I think people who criticise Wasim they have to realise that he is a single parent with 2 sons. His family comes first. Whenever the PCB have asked him to help with coaching camps, he has obliged. He has also made it clear that he cannot work on a full time basis for the PCB, at best he can do short coaching stints. In addition he has media assignments too.

You can be right but why is he always there to help INDIAN players??

[JilaWatan]

i dont understand WA has been such a great player for pak but soon after his retirement, he has taken a stand not to help pak in anyway. he refused the bowling coach role. he is out there helping other lefty fast bowlers (Starc, Irfan P, Nehra). if he is able to sepnd time in the IPLand coach their players why cant he help his own. i think he recognizes the corrupt system and knows unless drastic changes are made it wont matter how much time he puts in,

[Savak]

Originally Posted by JilaWatan i dont understand WA has been such a great player for pak but soon after his retirement, he has taken a stand not to help pak in anyway. he refused the bowling coach role. he is out there helping other lefty fast bowlers (Starc, Irfan P, Nehra). if he is able to sepnd time in the IPLand coach their players why cant he help his own. i think he recognizes the corrupt system and knows unless drastic changes are made it wont matter how much time he puts in,

Or maybe he wants to jealously guard his legacy and doesn't wish to give back in return.

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[JilaWatan]

Originally Posted by Savak Or maybe he wants to jealously guard his legacy and doesn't wish to give back in return. Sent from my BlackBerry 9360 using Tapatalk

i dont think thats the case, coahing pakistan dint hurt waqar's legacy. i think he just wants time away, who knows he might come around soon

[Savak]

Originally Posted by JilaWatan i dont think thats the case, coahing pakistan dint hurt waqar's legacy. i think he just wants time away, who knows he might come around soon

Do you really think Waqar would honestly share all his knowledge, tricks, tips, everything he knows with the youngsters? That he will want any future youngster to be even better than him.

Imran I can trust with imparting all his tricks, knowledge to the youngsters but not the W's. Too selfish. Besides Waqar was too busy playing politics in the team as coach as well. That we must not forget. Won't be any different with Wasim.


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[Monsee]

If Waqar/Mushy etc. etc. coaches someone and they become better than him/them...whom do you think will get credit for, Michael Jackson?

You have a simplistic mind and it only works this way: So an so was rude/cruel/bad to Mr. Clean and hence they are bad for life!

[Savak]

Originally Posted by Monsee If Waqar/Mushy etc. etc. coaches someone and they become better than him/them...whom do you think will get credit for, Michael Jackson? You have a simplistic mind and it only works this way: So an so was rude/cruel/bad to Mr. Clean and hence they are bad for life!

People are selfish in the real world and do what's best for them. To expect otherwise is naivity.


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[JilaWatan]

Originally Posted by Savak Do you really think Waqar would honestly share all his knowledge, tricks, tips, everything he knows with the youngsters? That he will want any future youngster to be even better than him. Imran I can trust with imparting all his tricks, knowledge to the youngsters but not the W's. Too selfish. Besides Waqar was too busy playing politics in the team as coach as well. That we must not forget. Won't be any different with Wasim. Sent from my BlackBerry 9360 using Tapatalk

right im pretty sure thats not the case, why be a coach then when you cant teach the youngster new tricks! do u really think waqar is selfish enough to not let these guys learn all the tricks he learnt from someone else?

[zulfiqar]

wasim & waqar are not so petty as to not share their knowledge... but don't expect others to be able to duplicate what they did; thinking that they should be able to pass on everything and make their own clones IS naive.

And as for posters bringing in "3 wars" "Pakistanis are different than their neighbors because they don't run after money" is just so OTT

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by justarslan Wasim was more skillful but Waqar more lethal. Mustaq also took 16 wickets, only 2 less than Wasim with a better strike rate. He also gifted the win to Bangladesh in that same world cup. First is first, second is nothing as Shanks said. It was Imran Khan. Waqar rejected the offer to coach New South Wales state team to coach Pakistan in the first place. We have not fought three wars against England. His living in Pakistan is no use to us if he does not help our young fast bowlers like Imran did with him and Waqar. PCB are not the first sporting organization to pay their players peanuts. Even Clive Lloyd, Ian Chappell, Vic Richards etc have complained in their biographies about getting paid peanuts by their respective boards. It is up to players to organize and create a cricketers union to lobby for better salaries from PCB. Then PCB will have to listen to them and they will get proper salary from PCB.

Mushy also doesnot coach Pakistan.Damn he doesnt even live on Pakistan.

Waqar more lethal againist whom? againist strong batting lineups like India or Australia he was poor.Wasim much better againist them and in big tourneys like the WC.As i said every contemporary batsman and expert rates Wasim as a better bowler.

The thing is he captained them to a final of a WC on Imran can claim a better record.

It was Wasim and Qadir who troubled Windies Batsman in late 80s.


waqar left the position of coach of Pakistan.why?

If you dont want relations with India your government should make that a rule.

Who was the one who found Mohammad Aamer?

Do you see Lloyld or Viv or Holding working for WICB?

[munda_khi]

by this logic whatmore, wright, pybus, lawson, fletcher, etc etc all are traitors as they are serving other countries.
most of us on PP also serving foreign lands instead of pakistan, i wonder, we are also traitors?

[Savak]

There is a difference bw general tips and killer tips/knowledge. Don't expect the W's to share the later with current and future players. Its everyone for himself and everyone will have to do their own learning.

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[khurramjamil]

Originally Posted by munda_khi by this logic whatmore, wright, pybus, lawson, fletcher, etc etc all are traitors as they are serving other countries. most of us on PP also serving foreign lands instead of pakistan, i wonder, we are also traitors?

All these names are no match for the great Wasim ... he is not there when we need him the most! instead he is at the neighboring country helping their slow pacers learn to bowl fast!

[munda_khi]

Originally Posted by khurramjamil All these names are no match for the great Wasim ... he is not there when we need him the most! instead he is at the neighboring country helping their slow pacers learn to bowl fast!

what difference does that make. we are dicussing the principle that if somebody works to help players of other country than there own, they are traitors. there status is not under discussion at this moment. on the other hand if wasim goes and coach in england or australia, will it be ok. what is the real issue, coaching in other country or coaching in india specifically.

[khurramjamil]

Originally Posted by munda_khi what difference does that make. we are dicussing the principle that if somebody works to help players of other country than there own, they are traitors. there status is not under discussion at this moment. on the other hand if wasim goes and coach in england or australia, will it be ok. what is the real issue, coaching in other country or coaching in india specifically.

Doing a job is different but at least showing the consent of helping the youth of Pak Cric is totally different... so far I have not seen any spark in him to help our young emerging players! That is something which we should discuss here .. but whats the use .. its his choice!

[munda_khi]

i heard that it was wasim akram who spotted mohammad amir. so in reality he made a major contribution, finding a major superstar. whatever happens down the road is amir's own doing. i am sure whenever some young player ask for his help he will make time for it. but he simply don't like to work with pcb and thats his call. why don't some major team in pakistan offer him job and match whatever he is arning, then we will see whether he will accept it or not.

[Pk-zindabaad]

agree with OP