Shahid Afridi's Behavior

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by shahidafridifan dude i m a huge fan of shahid bhai but this was kinda dissapointing esp when he repeated the misfield after cursing tanvir. he does get mad @ times but thats just because hes a pathan and they get mad easily. but dont forget hes also the one who says sorry....remember the semi's presentation..also he was feeling very hot and thats why his face was red throughout the game.....dont forget he also made azhar feel better after he was out 4 96.....im sure he realizes his mistake and wont repeat.

Your point is??

[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by Raza_Haider_Mohammad are u serious??....Shahid Afridi is one of the worst players in the world when it come to behaviour,attitude and sportsmanship.....He is not a gentleman at all....on the field as well as off the field

Shahid bhai is one of the best playerz and hes added 2 the list of the worlds top 100 pros...he is a gentleman...its weird how your saying stuff lyk that 2 Shahid bhai when u have a freakin avatar of hina rabbani khar who belongs to ppp....yes the ppp that ruined Pakistan!

[Savak]

Not sure why people are objecting to Afridi's anger. Its pretty manly to show anger, at time its what is needed and our team needs a danda. Imran Khan would have worse things to say to his players when they misfielded.

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[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Your point is??

my point is to clear Shahid bhai's image.

[Zaz]

Originally Posted by Savak Not sure why people are objecting to Afridi's anger. Its pretty manly to show anger, at time its what is needed and our team needs a danda. Imran Khan would have worse things to say to his players when they misfielded. Sent from my BlackBerry 9360 using Tapatalk

Pretty manly to show anger at the captain?

Yes imran may have said or done worse but thats because he wouldve been the captain, something afridi isnt

Afridi needs a reality check and needs to behave, he isnt the captain anymore

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by Savak Not sure why people are objecting to Afridi's anger. Its pretty manly to show anger, at time its what is needed and our team needs a danda. Imran Khan would have worse things to say to his players when they misfielded. Sent from my BlackBerry 9360 using Tapatalk

But behind the closed doors during team meetings, not on the field in the middle of a match.

But whom are we speaking to, and what is the purpose? When it comes to any issue related to Afridi, there can be only two camps, one Afridi haters, and other Afridi lovers, and nobody can be rational.

Ironically, I am neither a hater, nor lover.

[shahrukh619]

He's still angry at the Pepsi thing.

[spaceshot]

behaviour,attitude and sportsmanship

Originally Posted by shahidafridifan Shahid bhai is one of the best playerz and hes added 2 the list of the worlds top 100 pros.

You got comprehension problems..?

he is a gentleman...

And since when did repeat offenders and cheats became gentleman..?

[PIE_CHUCKER]

Afridi is just a num nut!!

I remebered when he danced on the pitch... hahahahah.... I mean come on what was that about??

And then biting the cricket ball? Pretty stupid if you ask me!!

I think Afridi is not a bright spark and most of the times doesnt know what he is doing!!

[Nav_Sidd]

"Its better out than in" - Shrek

Thats the best quality of Khans yar, they tell u straight out what they r thinking and its nothing bad as it was only meant to help Misbah out...better than standing around and later saying OH u should have done this or that!!
Not a diehard fan of lala but this thread is ridiculous..he has done far worse offences than this

[Ironcat]

Not sure why people are surprised. If you can chew on a ball on camera, curse your players obtuse in the field, cheat on the pitch, retire in the middle of a match, and punch a fan in public, then this is still elementary.

[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by spaceshot You got comprehension problems..? And since when did repeat offenders and cheats became gentleman..?

my reply: if u think honest is cheating then Shahid bhai is a very big cheat.

[shahidafridifan]

can someone tell me what happened between azhar and hafeez 'cuz i heard it was pretty bad and plz send me the link if possible.
Thanks in advance.

[spaceshot]

Originally Posted by shahidafridifan my reply: if u think honest is cheating then Shahid bhai is a very big cheat.

Common sense reply: Your definition of 'honest' needs to be fixed.

[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by spaceshot Common sense reply: Your definition of 'honest' needs to be fixed.

my reply: i agree shahid bhai commits mistakes but then he appologizes and doesn't deny what he did.

[Saurav]

Originally Posted by shahidafridifan my reply: i agree shahid bhai commits mistakes but then he appologizes and doesn't deny what he did.

so I will be good man in ur eyes if I bash u up for no reason n say sorry?

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by Saurav so I will be good man in ur eyes if I bash u up for no reason n say sorry?

May be u should bash him and then aplogise. Let's see how he reacts? Lol

[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by Saurav
so I will be good man in ur eyes if I bash u up for no reason n say sorry?

ok and who did he bash up? if ur talking abt his fan then guess what the fan didn't mind and knew it was his mistake sdo why do u have a problem?

[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by Saurav so I will be good man in ur eyes if I bash u up for no reason n say sorry?

Originally Posted by insaaniyat May be u should bash him and then aplogise. Let's see how he reacts? Lol

hahahhaha so funny....who said i was a "him"?

[Namak_Halaal]

Afridi is showing anger because he cares and is passionate.

[shahidafridifan]

Afridi is showing anger because he cares and is passionate. - Namak_Halaal
FINALLY! SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!

[spaceshot]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Afridi is showing anger because he cares and is passionate.

Woo hoo..
We got crystal ball gazers in here now.. Chamatkari baba Himalya ki choti se abhi abhi lautey lagtey hain.

Zara ye bhi batayein ki duniya bhar mein wo repeat offender ke naam se darz hain.. and somebody who ll never learn. And this is by a bunch of professionals who played the game in the past and present both. You really think a person like this has the attitude to be holding himself when he sees his bowling is leaking runs.. and with the gag order already in place for life outside the park??

There are far more passionate players who chat up with other players and go about perfecting the art by indulging in rigorous practice sessions with them. Afridi has been mentioned as somebody who is not interested in learning. And if you been reading up on him.. u ll know which person said this. His caring has been legendary all these years. Hoicking in time of crisis is the consistency he knows.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Afridi is showing anger because he cares and is passionate.

So is Sreesanth I guess

[Saurav]

Originally Posted by shahidafridifan Originally Posted by Saurav so I will be good man in ur eyes if I bash u up for no reason n say sorry? ok and who did he bash up? if ur talking abt his fan then guess what the fan didn't mind and knew it was his mistake sdo why do u have a problem?

It was an analogy,mam,he repeatedly makes 'mistakes' n u r happy just because he admits them n apologises

[Saurav]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Afridi is showing anger because he cares and is passionate.

so those who dont show anger arent passionate enough I guess

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by Indiafan So is Sreesanth I guess

Yup.

There's nothing wrong with being passionate about what you do.

If you didn't care you wouldn't react.

This is simple human psychology 101.

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by Saurav so those who dont show anger arent passionate enough I guess

You missed the caring part.

Try not to take my post out of context.

You care, you are passionate, which is why you post on PP and argue day in day out. If you didn't care or were not passionate you wouldn't care what people would say about India.

Do you understand now?

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Yup. There's nothing wrong with being passionate about what you do. If you didn't care you wouldn't react. This is simple human psychology 101.

Ok. I first read it here that Steven Waugh and MS Dhoni never cared, so hardly reacted.

[Namak_Halaal]

Style_Guru cares, this is why he has posted in this thread.

To the rest of you - passion/care is not proportionate to performance but is to interest.

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Style_Guru cares, this is why he has posted in this thread. To the rest of you - passion/care is not proportionate to performance but is to interest.

So that implies that on that given day, only S.K Afridi cared out of the 11 Pak players?

And it also implies that, since S.K Afridi did not care about the matches in the past, he did not react/argue with his skipper in those matches.

And it also implies that, we should know that S.K Afridi only cares, when he argues with the skipper in the middle of a match. If he does not argue, it means he does not cares.

Thanks for enlightening us, JB.

[DeadlyVenom]

No doubt Shahid has some passion and it comes out at times because he doesn’t have the mental capacity to control it like a normal person #bitesball #dancesonpitch

You can tell nowadays he gives it his all with the ball and in the field, however isn’t able to translate it to caring with the bat at all.

Selective caring? Selective passion?

Oh and not to forget how he so gloriously ran away from the test captaincy in the middle of a tour .

It’s what makes him such a loveable rouge though

I genuinely hope he donates his brain to science, maybe upon its dissection we can learn more about this curious creature.

[Namak_Halaal]

Some people do not understand what it means to care more than others.

India vs England 2011 - India simply didn't care - hence the series whitewash.

England on the other hand, did care about the #1 Test rank hence handing India a series whitewash.

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom No doubt Shahid has some passion and it comes out at times because he doesn’t have the mental capacity to control it like a normal person #bitesball #dancesonpitch

This is to do with intelligence, not passion or caring.

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom Oh and not to forget how he so gloriously ran away from the test captaincy in the middle of a tour .

He did the right thing. He didn't care about Tests, wasn't passionate about Tests, so why should he play Tests if he is not interested?

[Namak_Halaal]

Other examples where passion can result in anger.

No cricket fan as ever seen Monk-like Dravid lose his cool, but Vijeeta said that though only dropped catches upset him, he once got angry because the team lost badly. "Only once, I remember, he returned from a Test and said, 'I got a bit angry today. I lost my temper. Shouldn't have done that.' He wouldn't say more. Many months later, Viru (Sehwag) told me that he'd actually thrown a chair after a defeat to England in Mumbai. He'd thrown the chair, Viru said, not because the team had lost but because they had lost very badly."

http://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/featu...ponent&print=1

[DeadlyVenom]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal This is to do with intelligence, not passion or caring.

Pure Unadulterated cave man like passion.

But yeah, not intelligent enough to focus the passion on something more productive!

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal He did the right thing. He didn't care about Tests, wasn't passionate about Tests, so why should he play Tests if he is not interested?

Ah so it is selective passion when it suits self interest ;)

Passion to me is Asim Kamal playing with a broken hand, Freddie charging into bowl knowing the damage it is doing to his body. Steve Waugh playing with numerous injuries.

i.e Putting your self interest aside for the sake of the country.

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom Ah so it is selective passion when it suits self interest ;)

If a player has no interest he will not perform.

Is Misbah passionate about T20s? Does he really care about T20s? Didn't he relinquish his T20 captaincy? Why? Because Misbah doesn't care about T20s.

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom Passion to me is Asim Kamal playing with a broken hand, Freddie charging into bowl knowing the damage it is doing to his body. Steve Waugh playing with numerous injuries. i.e Putting your self interest aside for the sake of the country.

These are also examples of passion but do not falsify the notion that passion can lead to anger, only supports it.

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Some people do not understand what it means to care more than others. India vs England 2011 - India simply didn't care - hence the series whitewash.

Ok. So since S.K cared a lot by cussing his fellow team mates and skipper in the middle of the match, why did he himself misfiled? Or he only cared when others commit mistakes? I know that all you'll come up is that "passion/care is not proportionate to performance but is to interest". Now if that's the yardstick, then from now onwards, all the players should start swearing at each other on the field at every possible occasion. But commit misfeilds and brain farts while performing. Because the people already know that they care, since they have reacted by abusing each other.

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal This is to do with intelligence, not passion or caring. You mean he lacks brains? Thanks for being so straight forward. He did the right thing. He didn't care about Tests, wasn't passionate about Tests, so why should he play Tests if he is not interested?

Ok. But the point is that, why did he not make it obvious that he didn't care about tests, before accepting the captaincy? Or did he need a brain fart in the middle of a series to realize that he's not passionate about tests?

A boatman takes commuters on a boat to cross a river. In the middle of the river he realizes that he is'nt passionate about the boat ride. Should he abandon the boat along with passengers in the middle of the river? No. His duty is to reach the other shore, and then give up boat riding.

[Namak_Halaal]

Irrelevant.

Nothing challenges the notion that passion can lead to anger. Discussing intelligence is different altogether.

Give it time; you too will become angry in this thread because you obviously care about something.

[DeadlyVenom]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal If a player has no interest he will not perform. Is Misbah passionate about T20s? Does he really care about T20s? Didn't he relinquish his T20 captaincy? Why? Because Misbah doesn't care about T20s.

No.

He was a shockingly poor T20 player and was understandably forced out.

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal These are also examples of passion but do not falsify the notion that passion can lead to anger, only supports it.

Of course he exhibited some passion with his outburst. However why doesn't he show the same anger with his own failures with the bat?

Its quite selective isn't it?

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom No. He was a shockingly poor T20 player and was understandably forced out.

That's what they say. He is poor in ODIs too, but he is still the ODI captain - because Misbah cares about ODI.

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom Of course he exhibited some passion with his outburst. However why doesn't he show the same anger with his own failures with the bat? Its quite selective isn't it?

It’s not selective.

Afridi does show the same anger with the bat, only problem is with anger you lose control, Afridi has no control, this is why his swings and misses, this is his problem – lack of control and intelligence – but you cannot knock the guy for being passionate.

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Irrelevant. Nothing challenges the notion that passion can lead to anger. Discussing intelligence is different altogether. Give it time; you too will become angry in this thread because you obviously care about something.

My friend, no one is questioning S.K's commitment/passion here. It's just that there is a place/time for confrontations. You cannot just go ballistic towards your team mates/skipper in the middle of a match.

Instead, you are defending his behavior by stating the reasons behind his outburst. The point here is that no one plays to lose. Everyone wants to win. But one cannot just let out one's grudge in the middle of a match.

Still, if people feel that he has done right, then so be it.

[DeadlyVenom]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal That's what they say. He is poor in ODIs too, but he is still the ODI captain - because Misbah cares about ODI.

Nice mind reading skills bro. Misbah publicly came out and said he was disappointed with the fact he was axed. However he had the maturity to not kick up too much of a fuss and go down the usual Pakistani paths of temporary retirements when the captaincy was taken away from him .

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal It’s not selective. Afridi does show the same anger with the bat, only problem is with anger you lose control, Afridi has no control, this is why his swings and misses, this is his problem – lack of control and intelligence – but you cannot knock the guy for being passionate.

Have you seen his interviews,where he grins about his batting, revels in his notoriety for playing recklessly?

He doesn't see to give a damn.

Its quite frustrating as a fan, especially when you know his true potential with the bat

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom Nice mind reading skills bro. Misbah publicly came out and said he was disappointed with the fact he was axed. However he had the maturity to not kick up too much of a fuss and go down the usual Pakistani paths of temporary retirements when the captaincy was taken away from him .

If Misbah cared about T20s he would have performed well, but he was not interested. The result? He is no longer captain of T20, sacked or not.

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom Have you seen his interviews,where he grins about his batting, revels in his notoriety for playing recklessly? He doesn't see to give a damn. Its quite frustrating as a fan, especially when you know his true potential with the bat

It is frustrating, I am not saying Afridi is perfect, far from it, but we are discussing how passion can lead to anger.

Mindset.

[Cryin Out Loud]

Originally Posted by Saeth You are kidding me.how can you compare afridi who is one Of the greatest players to have played cricket ...............afridi is one Of the great power hitters in the game ................whenever afridi comes to bat no matter in which part of the world he is playing the cheer he gets from the crowd even sachin can't get that cheer from crowd..

Hi Shahid.

Management gave you time off today to 'sallybrate' your 16 odd years in international cricket and also your 16th birthday?

[BD-fan]

Originally Posted by kamran_uk ... When he misfielded he apologised straight away...

What an excuse. So from now on all players should apologise to Afridi immediately they misfield on his bowling and he wouldn't get angry and wouldn't show the outburst to his Captain. Like that would ever happen. Hothead is always a hothead. Doesn't matter if someone apologies or not.

[Down2Earth]

and here we go again, he can shout at others off his bowling but messes up twice in two balls. Pathetic team player.

Tony greig having a go at him too and rightly so

[Digital]

Typical Afridi


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[Saj]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth and here we go again, he can shout at others off his bowling but messes up twice in two balls. Pathetic team player. Tony greig having a go at him too and rightly so

careful, you'll be labelled a hater for life ;)

[Poison]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth and here we go again, he can shout at others off his bowling but messes up twice in two balls. Pathetic team player. Tony greig having a go at him too and rightly so

Lol at the way this thread is going ... kinda expected tbh. Makes 2 misfields in a row and suddenly he's on an agenda against the team. Pathetic posts.

[Afridirocks]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth and here we go again, he can shout at others off his bowling but messes up twice in two balls. Pathetic team player. Tony greig having a go at him too and rightly so

so if you are a bad fielder which mind you afridi is not, you are bad team player???? so basically pakistan as whole as a team is filled with bad players

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by Afridirocks so if you are a bad fielder which mind you afridi is not, you are bad team player???? so basically pakistan as whole as a team is filled with bad players

No if you mouth off at others in the team.

[Poison]

^ Not a fan of Wasim/Waqar/Imran then are ya?

[Afridirocks]

Originally Posted by khalil1986 No if you mouth off at others in the team.

ofcourse he has the right because he has been a great fielder in his career and just because he has been not so good today does not mean, he can't mouth off to other players, that is the dumbest logic I have ever heard

[Mission18thMarch]

He seems like he doesnt even want to play, just playing for no reason misbah does'nt even want to argue with him cause he knows afridi is going to bark even more like he always is!

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by Poison ^ Not a fan of Wasim/Waqar/Imran then are ya?

Hilarious absolutely hilarious, they backed it up with performances and are legends of the game. Afridi is a drama queen and nothing more.

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by Afridirocks ofcourse he has the right because he has been a great fielder in his career and just because he has been not so good today does not mean, he can't mouth off to other players, that is the dumbest logic I have ever heard

Afridi fans and logic LOL I have heard it all today anyway pointless arguing with an Afridi fan, you stick with your opinion I'll stick with mine.

[Afridirocks]

Originally Posted by khalil1986 Afridi fans and logic LOL I have heard it all today anyway pointless arguing with an Afridi fan, you stick with your opinion I'll stick with mine.

well when you don't have answers, that is one way of running away but its all cool

[Afridirocks]

plus tell me how many match winning spells have hafeez bowl in his career?

don't get me wrong hafeez is a fabulous bowler and a much improved one but he is no where close to being a match winner bowler then afridi

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by khalil1986 Hilarious absolutely hilarious, they backed it up with performances and are legends of the game. Afridi is a drama queen and nothing more.

Well if u want to go this way then Wasim and Waqar were even bigger drama queens than Afridi!

[Poison]

Originally Posted by khalil1986 Hilarious absolutely hilarious, they backed it up with performances and are legends of the game. Afridi is a drama queen and nothing more.

Your criticism makes absolutely no sense ... Afridi can't yell at fielders because he makes the occasional error in the field ... Wasim/Waqar/Imran can abuse fielders as much as they want despite their own errors in the field because they're better players (has not been questioned). Strong logic is strong.

[Zaz]

Originally Posted by Poison Your criticism makes absolutely no sense ... Afridi can't yell at fielders because he makes the occasional error in the field ... Wasim/Waqar/Imran can abuse fielders as much as they want despite their own errors in the field because they're better players (has not been questioned). Strong logic is strong.

Just because imran wasim or waqar did it, it doesnt make it right

Afridi needs to keep his ego and brain in check How wouldve afridi liked it if he was lambasted on the field today because of his shoddy fielding?

[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by Saurav It was an analogy,mam,he repeatedly makes 'mistakes' n u r happy just because he admits them n apologises

lolz no dude why would I, I mean mistakes are mistakes but he does realize what he's done and appologize and he hasn't made a mistake that won't be solved by a sorry.

[shahidafridifan]

ok there's no right answer here because there are a whole buncha fans and critics of Shahid bhai so we can't choose a right answer or reply. everyone has their own opinion.

[Afridirocks]

Originally Posted by Zaz Just because imran wasim or waqar did it, it doesnt make it right Afridi needs to keep his ego and brain in check How wouldve afridi liked it if he was lambasted on the field today because of his shoddy fielding?

but he made up for it with a brilliant run out, thing with afridi is when he has a bad day in the field which is not often he makes up for it in one way or another but with some other fielders it happens game after game

[Z_A786]

Originally Posted by Saj careful, you'll be labelled a hater for life ;)

Dont gloat mate, it doesn't become you. Afridi will be back, has won us more games than any other player in the team.

[Pete Rose]

Originally Posted by Z_A786 Dont gloat mate, it doesn't become you. Afridi will be back, has won us more games than any other player in the team.

its a bit like a kid repeating the 5th grade for the tenth time.
if you are allowed to do something badly enough for a decade you will get the odd good days.

[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by Z_A786 Dont gloat mate, it doesn't become you. Afridi will be back, has won us more games than any other player in the team.

finally...someone knows the truth! good job mate!

[cricketfan86]

here iz the video

[cricketfan86]

thiz iz another from 5th odi

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^ Thanks a lot.

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by Savak Not sure why people are objecting to Afridi's anger. Its pretty manly to show anger, at time its what is needed and our team needs a danda. Imran Khan would have worse things to say to his players when they misfielded. Sent from my BlackBerry 9360 using Tapatalk

Except the difference is that Imran Khan was a fantastic all-rounder, both with bat and ball, an inspirational captain who led by example and arguably one of the greatest Pakistanis to be walking the Earth - whereas Shahid Afridi is a no-talent, hot-headed slogger.

So please don't compare the two and insult IK by putting him in the same bracket as Afridi.

And can the mods PLEASE put the term 'hater' into the swear filter. I cannot stand how the term 'hater' is bandied around to shut down any constructive debate of the man.

This is a cricket forum, not a teenage Justin Beiber fan site.

[Savak]

Alright guys you need to all take a chill pill. This is the first time i saw the video and believe its not as bad as people have made the whole deal out to be. This happens often on the field where 2 people have a difference of opinion.

[shahidafridifan]

Originally Posted by Savak Alright guys you need to all take a chill pill. This is the first time i saw the video and believe its not as bad as people have made the whole deal out to be. This happens often on the field where 2 people have a difference of opinion.

I agree with u...anyone can tell Shahid bhai had pressure...his face was all read if u noticed....also he was just doing that because he wanted to win and we were abt to lose!

[Down2Earth]

I couldn't help but bump this thread. I finally got the chance to watch the highlights and surprise surprise. Afridi crying like a girl again where he'd bowl too short and it'll go for a single, not realising that it's his fault for not bowling according to the field. And in the field, the ball was only about a foot away from him, instead of diving, he didn't even react until it was 25 feet behind him... The less said about the batting the better... Even 10 runs from his unused bat would have been useful.

I think it's time he got a nice long break from the game

[Down2Earth]

the worst bowler in the team and the biggest ego.

[Dr Khan]

Yelling at his own player, shame on him

[syedzaahmed]

he should get fined for cursing. and Sohail Tanvir is smiling deep inside hhahaha

[Afridirocks]

oh get over it, its international cricket, hes yelling because he cares

[syedzaahmed]

Afridi should get fined and kicked out from Pakistan Cricket team

[Dr Khan]

pathetic stuff