Lionel Messi vs Cristiano Ronaldo | Season 2012-13 | Who will have the better season?

[iHammad]

Geordie Ahmed made this thread last season, time to make a new one for this season? I think so.

Messi has started the season by doing this:

http://t.co/i9Kub39U



Made a pitch invader happy by shaking hands with him

Ronaldo has started the season with this goal:



and this

[saj001]

Rvp.

[Amjid Javed]

[Pakistaniboy]

I Hope its Messi, but I certainly know the majority here on PP roots for Cristiano.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Pakistaniboy I Hope its Messi, but I certainly know the majority here on PP roots for Cristiano.

Majority? Not so sure though there are a lot of Man-U fans that try to claim Ronaldo is better, they understandably love the guy and find it hard to accept Messy is the better player

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Majority? Not so sure though there are a lot of Man-U fans that try to claim Ronaldo is better, they understandably love the guy and find it hard to accept Messy is the better player

Yeah, Mainly because of the Man Utd Fans.

We Barca fans are in minority here

[Shaheerthe2nd]

Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world.

There is nothing that can stop him

[iHammad]

[iHammad]

[Pakistaniboy]

^ Seriously I would rather have Iniesta/Villa/Xavi taking the penalties next season

[iHammad]

Don't worry, he'll start getting em all in eventually

Iniesta and Xavi are really good penalty takers though, from what I've seen. Even Pique is good.

[PetroDollars]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Majority? Not so sure though there are a lot of Man-U fans that try to claim Ronaldo is better, they understandably love the guy and find it hard to accept Messy is the better player

And the blind Man u haters, what the forum is full off who will do what ever they can to bring Ronaldo down.

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by iHammad Don't worry, he'll start getting em all in eventually Iniesta and Xavi are really good penalty takers though, from what I've seen. Even Pique is good.

Apparently the Euros Semi Final Penalty against Por was the first time he took a penalty according to himself

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by PetroDollars And the blind Man u haters, what the forum is full off who will do what ever they can to bring Ronaldo down.

We don't need to bring Ronaldo down, Messi does a good job of that by himself

[PetroDollars]

Ye we saw that a few months back

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by PetroDollars Ye we saw that a few months back

Aye, that penalty Ronaldo scored to beat Spain . . . . . . Oh wait

[iHammad]

He said he was going to take the 5th penalty

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by iHammad He said he was going to take the 5th penalty

Aye, quality penalty it was

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by PetroDollars And the blind Man u haters, what the forum is full off who will do what ever they can to bring Ronaldo down.

Remember This?

Rooney hails Messi as best ever after five-star show

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle875413.html

I guess Rooney is a blind Man Utd Hater who wants to bring Ronaldo down.

And just a note for you.

According to real Man Utd Fans, Man U is not acceptable.

Thats what I was told when I was at the theatre of dreams 3 years ago

[iHammad]

What the heck is he even saying in that gif? Something in Portugese?

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by iHammad What the heck is he even saying in that gif? Something in Portugese?

He said,

" This is not fair, not fair"

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by iHammad What the heck is he even saying in that gif? Something in Portugese?

Apparently he is saying "injustica"

A quick google search reveals it means unfair/unjust

[PetroDollars]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Aye, that penalty Ronaldo scored to beat Spain . . . . . . Oh wait

facepalm:



Which led too...

[PetroDollars]

Originally Posted by Pakistaniboy Remember This? Rooney hails Messi as best ever after five-star show http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle875413.html I guess Rooney is a blind Man Utd Hater who wants to bring Ronaldo down. And just a note for you. According to real Man Utd Fans, Man U is not acceptable. Thats what I was told when I was at the theatre of dreams 3 years ago

There is a difference between an opinion and blind hate,

[ecstatic_freak]

Right now Messi is ahead of everybody else and its going to be his best year ever. Ronaldo should be in super form too, last year, he not only won the la liga but played a major role in it, performed in pretty much all the big matches which imo, was a negative thing on his resume and he also performed well in Euros as well.

Messi is still going to be the fulcrum of Barcelona's attack so expect a lot of goals from him but its not really the number of goals that i'm looking forward to, he may not repeat his last years heroics but in term of football, it should be his best season, i can see him peaking this season and its quiet scary(for opposing teams) to think bout what "new" could he bring to the table as hes been tearing everyone apart in last five years.

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by PetroDollars There is a difference between an opinion and blind hate,

Are you psychic?

How can you sort out the difference between hate and opinion..


As far as I have seen you have pretty much hate everything Barca...

Is that blind hate or opinion?

[Poison]

Ronaldo will probably have the better year. He's at his peak age, and it'll be one of his last year as an out and out superstar. Messi will keep getting better and better but Ronaldo might be too good this season.

[Amir]

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Amir

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by Amir

But No, No

Last season he got very few assists from Xavi and Iniesta

[PetroDollars]

Originally Posted by Pakistaniboy Are you psychic? How can you sort out the difference between hate and opinion.. As far as I have seen you have pretty much hate everything Barca... Is that blind hate or opinion?

You think Messi is better thats your opinion but bashing Ronaldo for the sake of it and opening new threads when he doesnt perform only to run and hide when he performs in the next game shows blind hate.

Btw. can you show me where i have hated Barca, stop making things for the sake of it, i have always preferred them to any other team in LL.

[PetroDollars]

Originally Posted by Amir

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by PetroDollars You think Messi is better thats your opinion but bashing Ronaldo for the sake of it and opening new threads when he doesnt perform only to run and hide when he performs in the next game shows blind hate. Btw. can you show me where i have hated Barca, stop making things for the sake of it, i have always preferred them to any other team in LL.

So who opened new threads bashing him and then ran away? If you can list those posters then call them out directly instead of making blanket statements

[PetroDollars]

You know which ones they are, no need to mention them.

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by PetroDollars You know which ones they are, no need to mention them.

Oh Please,

Tell Us.

[withlovefrom vizag]

I never followed la liga or EPL regularly,i watched a few weekend games but this season i'm determined to watch the matches regularly

i love ronaldo probably coz he has an attitude around his game
hatersgonnahate.jpg

[MattyB]

Originally Posted by iHammad He said he was going to take the 5th penalty

He saved himself for the final penalty to feed his massive ego, in this case his plan went wrong and he never got to take a penalty.

I would rather have a team player who is willing to step up and take a penalty at any point(even if they miss) than a player who wants to take the final penalty for personal glory.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by MattyB He saved himself for the final penalty to feed his massive ego, in this case his plan went wrong and he never got to take a penalty. I would rather have a team player who is willing to step up and take a penalty at any point(even if they miss) than a player who wants to take the final penalty for personal glory.

Spot on

[Amir]

Originally Posted by MattyB He saved himself for the final penalty to feed his massive ego, in this case his plan went wrong and he never got to take a penalty. I would rather have a team player who is willing to step up and take a penalty at any point(even if they miss) than a player who wants to take the final penalty for personal glory.

Except it was the coach who said he was last, not Ronaldo.

Whoops, there goes that theory. What other ways can we make Ronaldo look like a villain? I heard he drives a nice car.

[withlovefrom vizag]

Originally Posted by MattyB He saved himself for the final penalty to feed his massive ego, in this case his plan went wrong and he never got to take a penalty. I would rather have a team player who is willing to step up and take a penalty at any point(even if they miss) than a player who wants to take the final penalty for personal glory.

it can be the other way around....

then the coach might've thought that he has the balls to perform wen the pressure is on If the last penalty turned out to be the decider

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by Amir Except it was the coach who said he was last, not Ronaldo. Whoops, there goes that theory. What other ways can we make Ronaldo look like a villain? I heard he drives a nice car.

oops

See what Nani said

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football...-1226412902228

Neverthless Messi and Ronaldo are the two best players in the world no doubt..

We can argue about who is best but that will only be decided when both retires.

[iHammad]

Portugal winger Nani suggests that Ronaldo demanded the fifth penalty against Spain to take the glory "Cristiano Ronaldo demanded the last penalty," the winger is quoted in The Daily Mail. "I said to the coach I would accept any order. "It didn't seem to be a problem to me, because penalty shoot-outs are all about luck and we did not deserve to lose like that."

Nani is class, whilst Ronaldo is just...

[chacha kashmiri]

madrid fan but messi all the way, don't think there's ever been a footballer as quiet and down-to-earth as hiim before

[iHammad]

Just watched this, perfect video to get me pumped up for the season

[iHammad]

Can't say much after 2 matches, both players look a bit tired.

[saj001]

Ronalddddddddddddooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo!

[iHammad]

Originally Posted by saj001 Ronalddddddddddddooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo!

His header today was really good. Apart from that didn't really create many chances.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Messi despite not being brilliant, still played quite well, could easily have had a hat-trick

The 2 chances he had in the 1st half would normally hit the back of the net and also Casillas pulled off a great save to deny him, would have made it 4-1 and likely the tie over

Ronaldo took his goal well, he is strong in the air and I was quite surprised it was Busquets marking him and not Pique, other than that he didn't see a great deal of the ball. He should do better next week when he will see more of the ball

[smoothcriminal]

Mourinho's must be in a real pickle. Madrid's defense just cannot stop Barcelona unless it plays unattractive football( as it did in the first half ). Such formulas have worked in the past for Madrid and I dont know why they lost the plot after CR7 scored the goal.

Due to the score, next game they'll have to play more openly against Barca, which means that Barca will get a lot of chances as well.

The defensive predicament seems to always carry with Madrid, no matter whether they sign a Cannavaro or a Woodgate or a Heinze.

Albiol is defensively AVERAGE. Sergio ramos has some games where he plays like a complete idiot like he did yesterday. I thought he had matured as a CB but clearly he is way too rash and was lucky to not concede another penalty. At this point I dont see why Mourinho shouldn't develop Varane. That's why I'm still confused as to why Mourinho wants Modric because the 4-2-3-1 formation clearly would require the 2 holding mids to be very diligent in guarding the center and full backs, something that Khedira or Lass would be more equipped to take on.

Iniesta was extra-ordinary as usual. I do think that they should put in Jordi Alba in the mix I am very excited to see what he has to offer. Messi had a relatively good game though average for his standards.

[Sidcricfan]

Fan of both but I like Messi more. Why do not we have a poll?

[King_Rizzy]

Brazilian Ronaldo has stated that Messi is better than Cristiano Ronaldo.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/14/sp...ssi/index.html

[sully3]

Originally Posted by MattyB;5046603[B ]He saved himself for the final penalty to feed his massive ego, in this case his plan went wrong and he never got to take a penalty. [/B] I would rather have a team player who is willing to step up and take a penalty at any point(even if they miss) than a player who wants to take the final penalty for personal glory.

the Portugal coach said after the match it was decided before the match that Ronlado will be taking the last penalty

Odd tactics to be fair but it was the coaches call

[sully3]

Ronnie has scored in the last 5 el classicos

Hopefully it's the start of shutting up the 'doesn't turn up for the big matches' brigade

[sully3]

Nice 93rd minute winner against City for the player that fails to turn up on the big stage

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by sully3 Nice 93rd minute winner against City for the player that fails to turn up on the big stage

If you want some context it was something like his hundredth attempt and then he got a helping hand from Kompany

[Geordie Ahmed]

Just seen this on Twitter:

"#Messi is just 18 #ucl goals behind Raul (71 vs53) - 15 Liga goals behind Cesar (190vs175) - 12 goals behind Pele (calendar year, 75vs63)"

Wow

[Amir]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed If you want some context it was something like his hundredth attempt and then he got a helping hand from Kompany

Maybe you need to put Messi goal in context now? Agaisnt the mighty Spartak Moscow at Camp Nou...

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Amir Maybe you need to put Messi goal in context now? Agaisnt the mighty Spartak Moscow at Camp Nou...

Not really since I didn't make any claims about his performance, I didn't watch it so I can't say anything until I do

Aur kuch . . . . . . .

[sully3]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed If you want some context it was something like his hundredth attempt and then he got a helping hand from Kompany

You come across so bitter GA mate when it comes to Ronaldo..

He had 3 shots on target and Hart made 2 incredible saves and they were 3 off target i dont know where you got the hundredth from

[PetroDollars]

He gets baffled when he watches Ronaldo play so expect..... Actually he always seems baffled when he posts.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by sully3 You come across so bitter GA mate when it comes to Ronaldo.. He had 3 shots on target and Hart made 2 incredible saves and they were 3 off target i dont know where you got the hundredth from

Not really, it was hardly a "turning up" performance, you can delude yourself and think otherwise BUT the reality of it was that he pretty much spent all night shooting on sight, world class players need to do more than that and I do think he is better than that, he just loves the glory and his ego wants the limelight rather than what is better for the team

[ecstatic_freak]

For now, Messi is leading but i am not really satisfied with his performances either, yes he is scoring goals and stuff but THAT thing is missing from his game this season, so far, his creativity that made him so lethal in the previous seasons is kind of missing for me but still, long way to go and i hope to see the same Messi that can get you out of ceats with his vision and creativity.

[Geordie Ahmed]

I agree, Messi has not been as good as he was last season BUT it speaks volume for how amazing he is that he has still managed more than a goal a game for Barca

On song the guy is 2 world class players rolled into 1

[King_Rizzy]

These two battle each other again today.

[sully3]

2 for my boy Ronaldo on the night and 2 for Messi swell.

6th time in a row Ronaldo has scored against Barca, apparently he dosn't turn up for the big games

[ecstatic_freak]

If talking bout goals and decisive moments, Ronaldo and Messi went toe to toe and it was a fantastic display of football by both of them but i'm happy that Messi is getting back to his usual self, creative in the midfield and dangerous when running on defenders, vintage Messi performance!

[161]

Originally Posted by sully3 2 for my boy Ronaldo on the night and 2 for Messi swell. 6th time in a row Ronaldo has scored against Barca, apparently he dosn't turn up for the big games

Ronaldo for that matter everyone has been scoring recently against Barca's nonexistent defense.

[Pakistaniboy]

We have Bartra on the bench..

I dont get why he doesnt get a chance specially ahead of Adriano()

[Sidcricfan]

Both of them got a brace yesterday but Messi's goals were better esp. that FK! For Ronaldo, like always, others(Benzema, Khedira, Ozil) made the move and Ronaldo finished it at first touch.

[Pakistaniboy]

Ozil was immense yesterday!

He was by far Real Madrid`s best player!

[zulfiqar]

Messi's goals > Ronaldo's goal IMO, FK was awesome

[ecstatic_freak]

Messi skinned Uruguay in their last match. They just didnt know how to deal with him and to make it a perfect night, he slipped one underneath the wall ala Dinho, what a performance, what a night for Argentina and Messi.

[IamtheKING]

Cr7

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by ecstatic_freak Messi skinned Uruguay in their last match. They just didnt know how to deal with him and to make it a perfect night, he slipped one underneath the wall ala Dinho, what a performance, what a night for Argentina and Messi.

And the United fanboys will still say that Ronaldo are head and shoulders above Messi....

[King_Rizzy]

Both Ronaldo and Messi playing for their countries tonight.

Portugal face Northern Ireland, whilst Argentina are up against Chile. Both matches are world cup qualifiers.

[Pakistaniboy]

Argentina up against a better team than Portugal.

Lets see how it goes this time.

[King_Rizzy]

Ronaldo getting his 100th cap tonight as well, so a special occasion for him.

[ecstatic_freak]

Originally Posted by Pakistaniboy Argentina up against a better team than Portugal. Lets see how it goes this time.

Chile is hurt, they lost their last couple of matches and its a desperate situation for them. Its going to be a great game though as Chile will test Argentinas defence and for them, its a must win game, thats what makes it a cracking encounter.

[King_Rizzy]

Messi had a decent game last night in Barca's 2-1 over Celtic. Ronaldo players tonight for Real Madrid who are away to Borussia Dortmund, which won't be easy.

[Mamoon_Ghaffar]

Messi vs Ronaldo?

It isn't an argument anymore.

The only thing that Ronaldo fans could talk about was free kicks and weak foot goals.

Messi has put that to bed as well.

No comparison between the best player of all time and one of the best of all time.

PS: Still waiting for the day Ronaldo finally gets a FK over the wall.