Spot-Fixing: Appeal Against Provisional Suspensions | 30th & 31st Oct | Update Thread

[aqeelPK]

I think salman butt will be cleared today while amir will get clearance tomorrow.

[hasanb]

Originally Posted by blinding light On GEO they said that about an hour back, these guys were released for a 30 minute tea-break, where the players and their lawyers were in discussion and in an extremely amicable mood.

hopefully...another good sign...

[AZ]

Originally Posted by blinding light On GEO they said that about an hour back, these guys were released for a 30 minute tea-break, where the players and their lawyers were in discussion and in an extremely amicable mood.

lol, inn logon ki to hearing bhi Test match jaisi hoti hain.

what's next, new paper and pens after 3 hours?

[mhraja]

Originally Posted by blinding light On GEO they said that about an hour back, these guys were released for a 30 minute tea-break, where the players and their lawyers were in discussion and in an extremely amicable mood.

The have been in amicable mood since this all started.

[Sufi Malang]

Khalid Ranjha ne aise Bean Bajanai hai ke ICC ka BAND baj jaye ga

[mhraja]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Khalid Ranjha ne aise Bean Bajanai hai ke ICC ka BAND baj jaye ga

Ranjhay se Heer tou bhagaye nahin gaye thi, poori ICC ka band kaisay bajaye ga

[aqeelPK]

Originally Posted by mhraja Ranjhay se Heer tou bhagaye nahin gaye thi, poori ICC ka band kaisay bajaye ga

ye wala ranjha taiz hai. kisi zamanay me law minister tha (before 2002 elections).

[Sufi Malang]

Originally Posted by mhraja Ranjhay se Heer tou bhagaye nahin gaye thi, poori ICC ka band kaisay bajaye ga

Nai yar, ye wala RANJAH bara KHOCHAL hai, isne aisa Logic dena hai ke ICC ko shaid Maffi bhi mangni per jaye hearing ke bad

[AZ]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Khalid Ranjha ne aise Bean Bajanai hai ke ICC ka BAND baj jaye ga

[Sufi Malang]

Just heard about the questions that was asked to Salman Butt by ICC in todays hearing...

Q: Why did you give third over of the innings to Muhammad AMir?

Ans: Because he was our best bowler and so often the best bowler bowls the 1st, 3rd, 5th over. Plus it wasn't the first time I did it....

[aqeelPK]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Just heard about the questions that was asked to Salman Butt by ICC in todays hearing... Q: Why did you give third over of the innings to Muhammad AMir? Ans: Because he was our best bowler and so often the best bowler bowls the 1st, 3rd, 5th over. Plus it wasn't the first time I did it....

Good start. Salman 1-0 ICC

[amirfanforlife]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Just heard about the questions that was asked to Salman Butt by ICC in todays hearing... Q: Why did you give third over of the innings to Muhammad AMir? Ans: Because he was our best bowler and so often the best bowler bowls the 1st, 3rd, 5th over. Plus it wasn't the first time I did it....

source?

[ShehryarK]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Just heard about the questions that was asked to Salman Butt by ICC in todays hearing... Q: Why did you give third over of the innings to Muhammad AMir? Ans: Because he was our best bowler and so often the best bowler bowls the 1st, 3rd, 5th over. Plus it wasn't the first time I did it....

LOL! What a lame question

Good response.

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Just heard about the questions that was asked to Salman Butt by ICC in todays hearing... Q: Why did you give third over of the innings to Muhammad AMir? Ans: Because he was our best bowler and so often the best bowler bowls the 1st, 3rd, 5th over. Plus it wasn't the first time I did it....

What a dumb question to ask. Retards!

[DeadlyVenom]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Just heard about the questions that was asked to Salman Butt by ICC in todays hearing... Q: Why did you give third over of the innings to Muhammad AMir? Ans: Because he was our best bowler and so often the best bowler bowls the 1st, 3rd, 5th over. Plus it wasn't the first time I did it....

Pathetic question if true that is

[AZ]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Just heard about the questions that was asked to Salman Butt by ICC in todays hearing... Q: Why did you give third over of the innings to Muhammad AMir? Ans: Because he was our best bowler and so often the best bowler bowls the 1st, 3rd, 5th over. Plus it wasn't the first time I did it....

oh no wait this is Salman...



haha!

[Newton_fan]

The Hearing is Fixed

[Sufi Malang]

Originally Posted by amirfanforlife source?

Waqt News TV Channel

[SOSami]

Getting to the nitty gritty now.

This isn't going to be an easy case (whether this one or the full hearing with all the evidence being presented) for the ICC to execute is it?
There's a lot of circumstancial evidence and that Majid video ain't watertight.

Game on.

[Mujtaba_Saeed]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar oh no wait this is Salman... haha!

passed 1st slip

[AZ]

through extra cover, not a fielder moved.

[IAJ]

Geo's numainda at the hearing said that he saw both Aamer and Butt with their lawyers in the tea break and both were smiling and looking confident so there are some serious chance that they might be cleared to play pending the full investigation.

[sakss]

dumb *****.....what sort of question is that??

shabash butta fix this one too

[alishahid]

can aamer and salman drafted to the ODI squad currently in abu dabi if they are cleared????

[AZ]

^ no, but they could be in the Test squad, according to Chief Selector.

[Sufi Malang]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar ^ no, but they could be in the Test squad, according to Chief Selector.

Considering our team's current performences, they should be brought into the team as soon as the 3rd ODI starts. They are already in DUbai so shouldn't be a problem to draft them in...

[AZ]

lol, won't hear any complaints from me

[alishahid]

but then if they are cleared tomorrow, they could still take part in the 4th and 5th ODI i gues. i m not sure but i read it online somewhere that they could be back in the squad.

[Inswinger]

Even if the ICC does clear them to play pending the full investigation, I don't think Ijaz Butt will allow them to play. He's become an ICC puppet over the past few weeks.

[sakss]

cmon dubai is waiting for you

[sakss]

Originally Posted by Inswinger Even if the ICC does clear them to play pending the full investigation, I don't think Ijaz Butt will allow them to play. He's become an ICC puppet over the past few weeks.

koi is ejaz butt ka encounter to kerwa do

[JibranAnsari]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Just heard about the questions that was asked to Salman Butt by ICC in todays hearing... Q: Why did you give third over of the innings to Muhammad AMir? Ans: Because he was our best bowler and so often the best bowler bowls the 1st, 3rd, 5th over. Plus it wasn't the first time I did it....

its only the start of questions the tougher ones will follow

[AZ]

Originally Posted by sakss cmon dubai is waiting for you

if in a dream situation they get clearance and are reinstated into the ODI squad, I will go to every single match in the series.

[sakss]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar if in a dream situation they get clearance and are reinstated into the ODI squad, I will go to every single match in the series.

im with you.....

cant miss the butta and amir show

[AZ]

Originally Posted by sakss im with you..... cant miss the butta and amir show

I remember the T20 vs. NZ in Dubai.

I thought Sami in 2007 was quick, but uff, Amir?

was like lightning, McCullum couldn't touch him even if you gave him six bats.

[Newton_fan]

What u guyz think ? they will play as they used to play 2 months before. they are out of Match Practice. till now Butt would have forgot how to hold a Bat. If they get clear i will consider them for NZ tour .

[Newton_fan]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar I remember the T20 vs. NZ in Dubai. I thought Sami in 2007 was quick, but uff, Amir? was like lightning, McCullum couldn't touch him even if you gave him six bats.

Guyz Like Sehwag and Ghambir were not able to touch the ball delivered by Amir during Asia Cup

[~Red Devil~]

Originally Posted by Newton_fan Guyz Like Sehwag and Ghambir were not able to touch the ball delivered by Amir during Asia Cup

Now don't over-hype the guy

Even Harbhajan smacked him for a six

[sakss]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar I remember the T20 vs. NZ in Dubai. I thought Sami in 2007 was quick, but uff, Amir? was like lightning, McCullum couldn't touch him even if you gave him six bats.

ya was absolutely shocked to see such a skinny guy to produce so much pace....

abhi dhabi odi against NZ jismein he scored 71..i left when pak wre 8 down....mised a historical innings.

[sakss]

Originally Posted by ~Red Devil~ Now don't over-hype the guy Even Harbhajan smacked him for a six

he even smacked akhtar for a six....

[AZ]

Originally Posted by ~Red Devil~ Now don't over-hype the guy Even Harbhajan smacked him for a six

did you see his opening spell alongside Shoaib?

those 2 survived on sheer luck, and nothing else.

[sakss]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar did you see his opening spell alongside Shoaib? those 2 survived on sheer luck, and nothing else.

we shouldve won that match if those 2 catches and run chance were taken

[SuperSportsCom]

Originally Posted by Sufi Malang Khalid Ranjha ne aise Bean Bajanai hai ke ICC ka BAND baj jaye ga

...too early to say.

Insha Allah they will be able to play soon.

[Markhor]

No player is bigger than the team.If guilty,they have to be banned.

Aamer's version of events is gonna be the headline though.

Geez,when I was 18,my exam revision hardly hit the headlines.

Such young shoulders bearing such a tragic load.

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Markhor No player is bigger than the team.If guilty,they have to be banned. Aamer's version of events is gonna be the headline though. Geez,when I was 18,my exam revision hardly hit the headlines. Such young shoulders bearing such a tragic load.

He will come out of it stronger.

[PakFan2010]

Chief Selector : Mohsin Khan has been given clearence to pick Amir+Butt for the South African series so playing in ther 3rd ODI could well be a possibility

Butt
Hafeez
Younis Khan
Asad Shafiq
Fawad Alam
Abdul Razzaq
Shahid Afridi
Mohammad Amir
Umar Gul
Saeed Ajmal
Shoaib Akhtar

[Atif]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Chief Selector : Mohsin Khan has been given clearence to pick Amir+Butt for the South African series so playing in ther 3rd ODI could well be a possibility Butt Hafeez Younis Khan Asad Shafiq Fawad Alam Abdul Razzaq Shahid Afridi Mohammad Amir Umar Gul Saeed Ajmal Shoaib Akhtar

Source ?

[AZ]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Chief Selector : Mohsin Khan has been given clearence to pick Amir+Butt for the South African series so playing in ther 3rd ODI could well be a possibility

are you just making this up?

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by Maula Jutt He will come out of it stronger.

He was close to tears in that post-match press conference.He couldnt even look Giles Clarke in the face.

That expression said it all.Theres only so much an individual can take.Especially a young individual at that.

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Chief Selector : Mohsin Khan has been given clearence to pick Amir+Butt for the South African series so playing in ther 3rd ODI could well be a possibility

What??

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar are you just making this up?

AZ if he is, please show the ibutt in you and ban him for playing with our emotions!

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Markhor He was close to tears in that post-match press conference.He couldnt even look Giles Clarke in the face. That expression said it all.Theres only so much an individual can take.Especially a young individual at that.

Of course. I myself wanted to cry at the time. And I'm in my mid-twenties.

[Muhammad Waleed]

.......

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Muhammad Waleed .......

You do have some points.

[Markhor]

A lot of people want to see him unbanned,but the mental scars if anything will remain with him.If he bowls a genuine no-ball,people will jeer him.He won't be the same Aamer we all knew,thats the thing.

I hope for his sake he is banned.I just cant see him back to his best,bowling yorkers,swinging the ball a mile again.Thats why we can feel Aamer's pain more than Asif's or Butt's,who act as if nothing hurts them.

I hope he has rhinoceros skin.Wheres Maqbool Babri the therapist when you need him

[AZ]

Originally Posted by Muhammad Waleed .......

Waleed bhai please write your post again as well please.

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Markhor A lot of people want to see him unbanned,but the mental scars if anything will remain with him.If he bowls a genuine no-ball,people will jeer him.He won't be the same Aamer we all knew,thats the thing. I hope for his sake he is banned.I just cant see him back to his best,bowling yorkers,swinging the ball a mile again. I hope he has rhinoceros skin.Wheres Maqbool Babri the therapist when you need him

Inspite of all this controversy, he remains my favorite cricketer. I want nothing more than to see him back in the field. Watching him bowl is the reason I started following cricket again after a long time. But now he is tainted and people will always be cynical towards his achievements. To me personally, that attitude of fans would be pretty hard to stomach. i can't even imagine what it would be like for him. Which is why, I feel that if he gets a ban for a short period, it would help his own cause. People will be less cynical towards his achievements because he would have already paid the price for his error. Most people believe in reform. It is a very romantic concept. So his fan following would only grow on his return. I want what is best for him long-term.

[Newton_fan]

Any new Update ?

[saeed-sohail]

How pathetic are we?
These guys even if"cleared" should not be anywhere near the team for a long time.
We let Akram and co get away with things and it got worse.Please dont make the same mistake.Doesn,t matter how good the player(Amir and Asif) is or how pathetic (Butt) they should be taught a lesson.

I urge PCB to keep cheats away from the team even if let
of by ICC.Amir is young 2 years out rof the game will give him a 12/15 year career.Asif is repeat offender and enough is enough now as for Butt worst opener of a very poor bunch(Hafeez/farhat/Taufeeq/Hameed) should not play ever again.

[PakFan2010]

Mohsin Khans exact words:

“I do hope Salman Butt and Mohammad Aamir will be successful in getting their provisional suspension lifted. And if the ICC removes the suspension we will seek a NOC from the PCB to immediately consider their cases for national selection, Mohsin told Dawn on Thursday. “In the end a decision in the best interest of Pakistan cricket will be taken.”

That basically means, if their ban is revoked then they will be picked, he cant fully commit to saying we will pick then if they are banned because if there suspension is not revoked then he will look like a bit of a"

[sakss]

its 17.35 here...surely it should be over by now

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Mohsin Khans exact words: “I do hope Salman Butt and Mohammad Aamir will be successful in getting their provisional suspension lifted. And if the ICC removes the suspension we will seek a NOC from the PCB to immediately consider their cases for national selection, Mohsin told Dawn on Thursday. “In the end a decision in the best interest of Pakistan cricket will be taken.”

MHK said IF he is given clearance. You said in your post that he HAS been given clearance. Misreporting.

[cricket47]

Geo reported that the hearing would continue tomorrow, there is no decision made today.

[PakFan2010]

Originally Posted by cricket47 Geo reported that the hearing would continue tomorrow, there is no decision made today.

ICC is running scared, great news

[Maula Jutt]

Geo: After 7 hours today, the hearing will be continued tomorrow. No decision reached.

[Strike!]

The hearing has been postponed because the ICC presented new evidence to the players lawyers.

Oh snap!

[AZ]

Originally Posted by Strike! The hearing has been postponed because the ICC presented new evidence to the players lawyers. Oh snap!

is that news or opinion?

[The_Real_Deal]

Originally Posted by Strike! The hearing has been postponed because the ICC presented new evidence to the players lawyers. Oh snap!

Source?

[Prince_Pathan]

its all hotting up

[PakFan2010]

he is lying

his pants are on fire

[amirfanforlife]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 he is lying

I hope so!

[Maula Jutt]

Geo: The hearing will commence at 10:30 tomorrow morning.

[hasanb]

As i said earlier the only straightforward decision woulve been in the ICCs favour

I think that the fact this is continuing into another day is in fact a good thing for us/

[Strike!]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar is that news or opinion?

Its news. According to GEO.

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Pawar to Butt

On the pads and........


Flicked through square leg for

[amirfanforlife]

Originally Posted by strike! its news. According to geo.

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Seriously though if they are guilty i hope they are punished and if they are innocent i hope they are cleared.

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Will Butt and Aameer be celebrating tommorrow like this:



Or:

[SOSami]

Originally Posted by Strike! Its news. According to GEO.

That doesn't answer the question!

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Strike! Its news. According to GEO.

A bunch of us were watching Geo at the same time. They never said this. They said the chargesheet was presented. They never claimed it was new.