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Old 9th February 2011, 08:05
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CricketCrackIt - Fantasy Cricket on the Web - A review

Guys - you may have noticed their link on top of our page and curious to know what its all about .

The chaps at CricketCrackIt have sent in this review - pls read and ask questions.

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The interestingly named "CricketCrackit" is the latest addition to the burgeoning fantasy cricket web. From a humble start a few years ago, Fantasy cricket now commands a dedicated playerbase which undergoes a huge expansion during ensemble cricket tournaments like the World Cup and the T20 World Championships. So with the 2011 World Cup just around the corner, lets unwrap this shiny new package and see what it has to offer.

First Impressions:

The cricketcrackit.com website is a well oiled and catchy design. Most fantasy cricket websites around are frankly the visual version of Freddy Kruger on chalkboard; overloaded with Google ads, SEO injections and suffering from poor design and navigation. Here, the CricketCrackit homepage gets straight to the business with the Registration, Connect using Facebook and Invitation menus clearly visible. The page loads rather quickly with only one background graphic. Considering the fact that the main fantasy cricket gamerbase would probably come from the subcontinent, where broadband internet is not very common, the page loading times might be a crucial factor. Although we weren't able to test the website on dialup, we did test using edge and the pages loaded in reasonable time.

Getting Started:

You have to be a registered member to play the game and registration is fairly no frills and straight forward. The connect using Facebook option is also convenient as you don't have to fill the registration form and you also get a username and password emailed to you automatically for signing in without Facebook.

Playing the Game: Squad Selection

After registration, you have to select your squad of 15 players. The squad composition is fixed at 2 keepers, 6 batsmen, 3 all rounders and 4 bowlers. Each player is worth a certain amount of money and you initially get 100 million to purchase your squad. The squad selection menu is well designed with a graphical view and a data view for the stats freaks. To help you pinpoint the right combinations, each player is organized into his respective role and his record can be viewed using multiple filters like career, last one year's performance and performance against the next team. The players can easily be moved in and out of the squad and their stats viewed in the same window. The players are ranked well and all prices and points are set to synchronize with actual values. The total balance and player values are set in such a way as to make the selection process highly strategic and enjoyable for cricket fans

Team Selection:

Selecting the playing XI is also a cakewalk with a minimum set composition of 1 keeper, 3 batsmen, 1 bowler and 1 all rounder. One player has to be made Captain and as the trump card and his performance points are doubled so that you can really get a return on your investments on expensive players.

Gameplay:

The real time gameplay will start with the World Cup but the game already offers promising features and high playability. A deadline clock indicates the time left to finalize the playing XI for each match and all team points are updated every half an hour, which is faster than most fantasy cricket games out there. You are also allowed up to to 20 free transfers during the tournament which was really pleasing for cut-throat selectors. Other "CricketCracker's" performances can be viewed without much hassle and sorted using multiple options. CricketCrackers can also use the Facebook application to brag out loud about their team and start their own flamewars with their Facebook friends.

Help and Support:

Although we wouldn't say its much help for a Frenchman completely unfamiliar with cricket, the help texts are to the point and easy to follow. For the first time in a fantasy cricket game, a demo video has also been provided which gives a quick overview of the entire game and clears up the usual confusions associated with fantasy gaming.

Verdict:

CricketCrackit is a solid fantasy offering with all the right ingredients for a web based sport fantasy game: simple but lively design, easy navigation, smooth management and decent help. With the fantasy cricket gaming web apparently mushrooming but rather directionless and devoid of innovation, CricketCrackIt is a big step in the right direction and is sure to garner consistent interest from cricket fans.

Useful Links about the game:
1. Website url: http://www.cricketcrackit.com/
2. Facebook application url: http://apps.facebook.com/cricketcrackit/
3. Rules: http://www.cricketcrackit.com/rules.php
4. FAQs: http://www.cricketcrackit.com/faqs.php
5. Video Tutorial: http://www.cricketcrackit.com/tutorials.php
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Old 9th February 2011, 09:17
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This is a screenshot of the new feature that we have introduced today. You can now look at the career stats of a player, his performance in last 365 days and his performance against next opponent. This will help in selecting your squad. This panel opens when you click on the information icon (blue in color and round in shape).
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Old 9th February 2011, 10:24
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This one is much better than Cricketweb

But the prices are as-usual unfair

I hope someday PP can have a Fantasy League of its own

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Old 9th February 2011, 17:43
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So is this gonna replace cricketweb for PP fantasy leagues?
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Old 9th February 2011, 17:59
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Are we still going to have the webcricket league?

I rather like that one
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Old 9th February 2011, 19:00
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Sallu - at the moment we are on for the ESPN version and W63L35 is the organizer so will need to wait for his decision on this
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:33
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Sallu - at the moment we are on for the ESPN version and W63L35 is the organizer so will need to wait for his decision on this
I suggest is that we can play both ESPN. Then all of us can decide which one we want to
play based on everybody's opinion.

The reason I suggested ESPN was ....

a) ESPN is quick and simple.... you pick all group matches at once then 2nd time pick 4 QFs and then 2 SF and then 1 Final. No effort at all. First time registering takes about 5 minutes on ESPN but playing/picking your team takes less than 5 mintues.

b) We were bored with Cricketweb and wanted to try something new.... either along with Cricketweb or with Cricketweb.

c) The issue (my personal) with cricketweb for the WC is that it starts at 2/3 AM in USA. I am not going to get up at 2/3 AM to change the line up for every match in th WC.....becuase it allows you to make 200 substitutions. So I will not be playing or particating actively in cricketweb.


Now I just checked Crackit ..... and it is similar to cricketweb but makes it really hard to play....which could be much more interesting that Cricketweb.

The biggest differences are:
1. You play all your players are CW but play 11 of 15 players at CCI (cricketcrackit).

2. 200 subsitutions at CW but only 20 drop/adds at CCI.

3. Too much money availabe at CW but hardly any money available at CCI. CCI gives you only 100M for 15 players which comes out 6.67M per player.....when they have priced top players from 8-10M each. The money available is so low that I am afraid we will not have money to buy just the 11 players for 4 QFs or 2 SFs. I am just guessing.

4. Another thing I do not like about CCI... is that (it seems like) they will charge you a substitution even before the start of the tournament. I just selected a team (random team) and now if I make the change (before Feb 19), it will still cost me. I think...

5. I like graphics better at CCI.

6. I don't see a place/option at CCI which allows you to create a group for Pak Passion. So we'll playing as individual players? How will we post (or know) the results for PakPassion group?

7. I could not find any where on CCI where they explain the point system...... as CW explains it very well here;
http://www.cricketweb.net/fantasycri...ntssummary.php

8. You can see other manager's teams at CCI. Either it is bug/error on their website or ... huge oversight;
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Old 9th February 2011, 21:37
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or... we can also look at Cricinfo Fantasy.... some decent prizes!

http://espncricinfo.fantasyleague.com/
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Old 10th February 2011, 00:16
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I personally really like cricketweb, very nice, this is PP, not a professional fantasy league forum and we should make it easy for most people.

A combination of cricketweb and the ESPN thing seems nice to me.
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Cricketweb is crap.

And W63 from the outlines you have made on CCI, it doesn't seem like like I like it very much.

Can we please go with the ESPN's fantasy league.
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Cricketweb is crap.
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No I think, it is pretty decent....


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And W63 from the outlines you have made on CCI, it doesn't seem like like I like it very much.
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Just different rules...from CW .... other than a few improvements that they need to make, I think.. it is pretty decent too.

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Can we please go with the ESPN's fantasy league.
Well, I'll let mods decide. We already have 42 players registered. So we should be playing this anyway (officially or unoficially for PakPassion).

Key decision should ... if we want to play just ESPN or we want a 2nd competition ... in addition to ESPN ... .if yes, then which one.
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Old 10th February 2011, 05:24
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W63L35 ... does ESPN have a fantasy game as well as a prediction game? If not, then we will need to decide between cricketweb or CCI as we will be running a fantasy comp here on PakPassion.
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Old 10th February 2011, 05:50
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The biggest differences are:
1. You play all your players are CW but play 11 of 15 players at CCI (cricketcrackit).

2. 200 subsitutions at CW but only 20 drop/adds at CCI.

3. Too much money availabe at CW but hardly any money available at CCI. CCI gives you only 100M for 15 players which comes out 6.67M per player.....when they have priced top players from 8-10M each. The money available is so low that I am afraid we will not have money to buy just the 11 players for 4 QFs or 2 SFs. I am just guessing.

4. Another thing I do not like about CCI... is that (it seems like) they will charge you a substitution even before the start of the tournament. I just selected a team (random team) and now if I make the change (before Feb 19), it will still cost me. I think...

5. I like graphics better at CCI.

6. I don't see a place/option at CCI which allows you to create a group for Pak Passion. So we'll playing as individual players? How will we post (or know) the results for PakPassion group?

7. I could not find any where on CCI where they explain the point system...... as CW explains it very well here;
http://www.cricketweb.net/fantasycri...ntssummary.php

8. You can see other manager's teams at CCI. Either it is bug/error on their website or ... huge oversight;
Some important points that I would want to clear:

1. Yes, thats true that you have to select 15 squad. and choose your playing eleven before the deadline of start match.

2. Yes free transfers from the squad are limited and they would be 20 once the world cup begins. Before the world cup starts, you can make unlimited changes.

However, we might allow transfer after your free transfers are finished but that would be at the expense of the points you have earned.

Changes in playing eleven doesn't cost you anything. All you need to make sure is that you do it before the deadline.

3. This has been done intentionally so you can pick a decent squad only after spending a good time. It appears to be hard but its not that hard.

Our idea was that that you should give a good thought to choosing a team. If we had given options of lots of money then everyone would have gone to the best player.

4. No, you would not be charged before the world cup. Till the world cup begins, you can make unlimited changes.

5. Thank God, you like something about CCI

6. We are working on private leagues and will be available in 1-2 days. It is already completed but is going under test.

One more thing that you can do (if you have joined from facebook) then you can compete with your facebook friends too. There is an option to see FB friends standings which tell you how your FB friends are doing.

7. We are at the moment thinking about the point system and would definitely be explaining it once we have final decisions on the points.

8. Yes, again it is intentional. Reason is that we will be announcing prizes and would make it transparent.
2nd reason for making it public was get a following. Like you can comment on a manager's team and a discussion can start.

Having said that we are going to implement an option where manager would be allowed to make his profile private so you cannot view his team.

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CCI has many features that make it unique compared to other fantasy games and one of them is its integration with facebook. CCI can be played directly from facebook as FB app. Here is the updated link:
http://apps.facebook.com/cricket-crackit/

As mentioned in my previous post, you can see the detail stats of a player alongwith recent form and performance against next opposition. This helps in choosing your squad.

I appreciate you taking time & giving a feedback that would definitely help us in improving the quality. If you have any suggestions or questions, please do let me know.

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Old 10th February 2011, 08:14
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ebiKhan - if we decided to run our fantasy competition on your system, then we will need some very close support on this.

We will have a decision soon.
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Some important points that I would want to clear:

1. Yes, thats true that you have to select 15 squad. and choose your playing eleven before the deadline of start match.
No problem.... just different rules.

2. Yes free transfers from the squad are limited and they would be 20 once the world cup begins. Before the world cup starts, you can make unlimited changes.
No problem.... just different rules.


However, we might allow transfer after your free transfers are finished but that would be at the expense of the points you have earned.
Very good idea! becuase if I have pathtic players laeft for the final then I have look at my position to see if I can afford to purchase player..... I like this very much!


Changes in playing eleven doesn't cost you anything. All you need to make sure is that you do it before the deadline.

3. This has been done intentionally so you can pick a decent squad only after spending a good time. It appears to be hard but its not that hard.
No problem.... just different rules.

Our idea was that that you should give a good thought to choosing a team. If we had given options of lots of money then everyone would have gone to the best player.

But if you look at some teams managers have picked so far........ only 2-3 top player, 7-8 average players and the remaining 4-5 player from minnows or no-name players. Now think about QF... semi-final and final when bench bench players (from minnow teams) will not be even playing. That's where I see me wasting my money...after group matches. As I said earlier, chance are my bench (or more) may not get to play in the finals.

I will suggest one fo the two options:
a) After the group matches you allow us to select less that 15 players so that we can spend out 10M on 10, 11 or 12 or 13 or 14 (but not 15 players).... but this may be difficult to program for you.

or

b) Right now you you allow 10M for 15 players which come out 6.67M per players. Now... please see (below) the type of players that available for 5-6M (average per player). Only thing I am questioning .. is that 10M is forcing us to pick too many minnow players or the bench players from the top teams for example ....Asad Shafiq... who may now even get a game in the WC but is the only affordable/cheap player frpom a top team like Pakistan.

So.. the 2nd option, I suggest;
a) Add up value of each player. e.g. 1500 Million
b) divide by the number of players. e.g. by 210 players (14 teams x 15)... 1500/210 7.1 M ...

c) Then multiply 7.1M with 15 (CCI players per team)... which comes out to be @11M.

Then you should at least give everybody 12-13 million.

This is a very formula but you can fine tune is but averaging cost per player per catagory.






4. No, you would not be charged before the world cup. Till the world cup begins, you can make unlimited changes.

Good!

5. Thank God, you like something about CCI
Another this I love about CCI is.... your response..... promt and sensible!

6. We are working on private leagues and will be available in 1-2 days. It is already completed but is going under test.

Excellent!


One more thing that you can do (if you have joined from facebook) then you can compete with your facebook friends too. There is an option to see FB friends standings which tell you how your FB friends are doing.

I hate facbook and don't use it. Even if I did, I would want my facebook id to appear on public forum!

7. We are at the moment thinking about the point system and would definitely be explaining it once we have final decisions on the points.

Until then, I can not pick my team... to see if I want my team batsmen heavey or bowler heavy.... because the trick on CW is... that you make your team batsmen heavey. Please do that before the start of the tournament.


8. Yes, again it is intentional. Reason is that we will be announcing prizes and would make it transparent.
2nd reason for making it public was get a following. Like you can comment on a manager's team and a discussion can start.

Having said that we are going to implement an option where manager would be allowed to make his profile private so you cannot view his team.
I would love to have this option. I don't care about other teams and I don't want others to look at my team.

As far as prize is concerned, I trust you guys!

Who cares about the prize when playing and getting bragging right is the most fun part!



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CCI has many features that make it unique compared to other fantasy games and one of them is its integration with facebook. CCI can be played directly from facebook as FB app. Here is the updated link:
http://apps.facebook.com/cricket-crackit/

As mentioned in my previous post, you can see the detail stats of a player alongwith recent form and performance against next opposition. This helps in choosing your squad.

I appreciate you taking time & giving a feedback that would definitely help us in improving the quality. If you have any suggestions or questions, please do let me know.
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Old 10th February 2011, 12:28
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ebiKhan - if we decided to run our fantasy competition on your system, then we will need some very close support on this.

We will have a decision soon.
Sure, we will be available for all sort of support. Looking forward to your decision
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Old 10th February 2011, 13:55
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Sure, we will be available for all sort of support. Looking forward to your decision
Ebikhan,

Thanks for that. We have decided to go with CricketCrackIt for PakPassion's Fantasy World Cup Competition this time around - and have ditched CricketWeb.

However, this is on the basis that you could test and launch the "Groups Feature" [for Private Leagues] in the next 1 day - you had said in your earlier note that this is ready and should be up soon?

Also - when will the Rules be up? Thanks!

Please keep us updated as we plan to launch our game soon.

Thanks!

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For all the rest of us,

Please watch this space. Atif and PakCricketFan will be launching PP's World Cup Fantasy Game - this will run alongside PP's Predictions Game (ESPN based) that W63 bhai has already launched and is managing for PP.

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Ebikhan,

Thanks for that. We have decided to go with CricketCrackIt for PakPassion's Fantasy World Cup Competition this time around - and have ditched CricketWeb.

However, this is on the basis that you could test and launch the "Groups Feature" [for Private Leagues] in the next 1 day - you had said in your earlier note that this is ready and should be up soon?

Also - when will the Rules be up? Thanks!

Please keep us updated as we plan to launch our game soon.

Thanks!

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Thanks alot for this opportunity. I feel for CricketWeb and hope they will understand everyone need to have a chance

Well, we are almost done with the league thing and are still testing it to make sure it is working fine. The rules will be out soon. That is one of the pending task in tomorrow's todo list. InshaAllah, it will be completed tomorrow.
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Well, thanks alot. Really motivating and some very good points & overall very encouraging.

Regarding the starting balance for knockout stages, there are multiple options under consideration. and increasing the starting balance is also one of them.

With the current prices of the player, 100M is very good starting value for the group stages. Even if you have to select players from bad teams then they still would earn you points if you choose them wisely. There are some decent players in Ireland, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe that can very good buy because of their low price and more chances to perform. The main idea was to make your purchases wisely. If everyone had Watson, Pathan, Amla, Dhoni and Tendulkar in their team then it would have been less fun.

Here are few teams that I am sharing. They have got one player from the bad team and the rest of them are good:

http://www.cricketcrackit.com/profile.php?userid=91
http://www.cricketcrackit.com/profile.php?userid=20

Thanks once again for your interest and giving your valuable time.
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I think cci is wonderful and more in line with the other modern fantasy games I've played. in fact, this particular format reminds me of the official fifa fantasy competition (in which I came first on PP may I add ;)).

10M is perfect. it forces you to load up on players that are not obvious choices which causes the teams to have real key differences besides just picking the captain. strategy & foresight come into play.

20 free transfers in my opinion seems right, may be too many.. but it depends on how the scoring works. ebikhan, can you please provide scoring details fast? one thing I suggest is giving around 4 free transfers at semi finals and another 4 for finals. also, the player/team limit should go up to 6 & 8 come semis & finals respectively.
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Old 11th February 2011, 00:40
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I liked webcricket
CCI has too few modifications

Anyhows, will give it a shot for sure
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CCI has too few modifications

Anyhows, will give it a shot for sure
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Maybe the cricketcrackit people can allow more modifications.
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Old 11th February 2011, 00:54
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Cricketweb allows way too many transfers don't u guys think? It's too easy to change your entire squad and it doesn't reward those who thought out their initial 15 man squad
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Btw, will it be mobile friendly... that will b important :p
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Old 11th February 2011, 01:03
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CCI has too few modifications

Anyhows, will give it a shot for sure
Can you please explain what do you mean by few modifications ?
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Only 20 team changes allowed throughout the competition
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I think cci is wonderful and more in line with the other modern fantasy games I've played. in fact, this particular format reminds me of the official fifa fantasy competition (in which I came first on PP may I add ;)).

10M is perfect. it forces you to load up on players that are not obvious choices which causes the teams to have real key differences besides just picking the captain. strategy & foresight come into play.

20 free transfers in my opinion seems right, may be too many.. but it depends on how the scoring works. ebikhan, can you please provide scoring details fast? one thing I suggest is giving around 4 free transfers at semi finals and another 4 for finals. also, the player/team limit should go up to 6 & 8 come semis & finals respectively.
Thanks alot for the encouraging feedback. It really means alot and will help us improving the quality.

About the team limit going up in semi-final and final, it would actually harm people who had predicted well before the knock out stages.

Yes, InshaAllah we will update the scoring today.
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Old 11th February 2011, 01:15
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Only 20 team changes allowed throughout the competition
There are 2 things in the game. One is squad and other is team.

a) You have to select a squad of 15 of fixed formation. It is like you are selecting a team for the tour. Before the world cup begins, you can have unlimited transfers in the squad. One important thing you get the points for your playing eleven and not the squad.

b) Once the world cup begins, you will have 20 of free transfers.
After your free transfers are over, then you can still make transfer but that will be at the expense of your points that you have during the competition.

Please note that this number 20 may change as we have got some feedback where people are saying 20 might too many and some say 20 might be too less.

Also, at the moment, we haven't decided how many points should be deducted for a single transfer (after a manager's free transfer are finished)

c) As mentioned above, you get the points for your playing eleven. You can make unlimited changes in your playing eleven before the deadline which includes making changes in final eleven and captain changes.

Unlike other fantasy games, the playing eleven is not rigid. You need to have atleast 3 batsmen, atleast 1 all-rounder, atleast 1 bowler and 1 manadatory keeper. Its pretty flexible which makes it more interesting.

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Old 11th February 2011, 01:16
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Btw, will it be mobile friendly... that will b important :p
The current version is not that mobile friendly. Our current focus is on the web version and facebook application. InshaAllah, the next version will be mobile friendly as well.
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Old 11th February 2011, 01:17
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Fair enough mate, as I said, will give it a shot for sure

Also another question, we can change the playing 11 whenever we want free of points/modification charges right?

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Thanks alot for the encouraging feedback. It really means alot and will help us improving the quality.

About the team limit going up in semi-final and final, it would actually harm people who had predicted well before the knock out stages.

Yes, InshaAllah we will update the scoring today.
But you see, by not increasing the number of transfers before the knockouts, you are discouraging ppl to choose good players from teams that are certainly gonna b knocked out (ie. Wi, bang, nz, minnows). Some renowned fantasy games even allow unlimited transfers when knockouts begin,+4 is nothing. Also, by limiting transfers during group stages to 20 u are already rewarding initial selections. Typically, 3 transfers per game is standard for knockout competitions cuz of number of rookie users. 6 games for each team = 18.20 is close enough. increasing number of transfers at semis & finals is a MUST IMO. almost everyone will agree.
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Old 11th February 2011, 01:59
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Old 11th February 2011, 08:55
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I liked webcricket
CCI has too few modifications

Anyhows, will give it a shot for sure
Cricketweb was far too generous!

Fewer modifications/budget will make the competition interesting IMO.
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Old 11th February 2011, 09:40
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Hello. I've made my team and would like to know how can I join the PP league in it? Thanks.

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Old 11th February 2011, 10:06
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Old 11th February 2011, 10:18
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Oh, I didn't see we selected this league for PP officially!

First of all, I'm glad PP has chosen this league because they seem to have done a great job so far with the interface... it's the best one I've seen for a Cricket Fantasy competition! It'll be great to see you guys come out with the scoring points, so that we can discuss it in the thread & hopefully give suggestions! I'm a sports fantasy veteran of sorts so I thought i could give some advice...

**1** Once the knockouts begin, more free transfers have to be allowed or the users should have the option to completely reselect their ENTIRE squad. This might seem "too easy" at first, but it makes absolute sense. You see, the group stages already consist of 6 games, which is enough time to take a lead with the squad you selected. The reason for the option to reselect your squad is to encourage players to pick "differentials", that is, players who won't be picked by most other competitors, i.e. from minnows. With the option of gaining additional free transfers in the knockout stage, people won't be scared in choosing such players who otherwise would NEVER make good choices. Think on this one, because it's important. We already have another competition that tests our knowledge on which team will beat which team. This fantasy competition is not about that; rather it is about which players will give good performances.

Once the knockouts start, you should have a set # of free transfers, to help you weed out players from teams that get knocked out in QF and eventually SF. (I think 4 free transfers in SF & 4 for Finals is fair enough.. so 8 in total). This would be seperate from the # of free transfers we are given in the group stages, although you could users who have group stage free transfers left and have them carry over.

Giving us the option to re-select the squad in the knockout stage (or atleast giving us major free transfer points) should take priority. If it means reducing the # of free transfers in the group stages, to maintain the difficulty level, so be it. (from 20 to 15?10?).

I know it was a long read but having the option to almost or completely re-select our squad at the QF stage is not as big a let-off as you think it is. Because from that point on you still need to account for half of the teams getting knocked out at QF, and another half at SF, which means picking players from teams you think will reach the finals will take precedence. Also at the moment you have it set to 4 players/team in group stages. To make it more interesting I suggest cutting it down to 3 or 2 players/team for group stage (to diversify). That way people won't just stack Aus & Ind (who are going to beat the **** out of Bangla) and then pushing it up to 4/team for QF, 6/team for SF, and finally 8/team for finals obviously. (the SF & Finals is a must of course, or you won't be able to select 15 members! hah).

**2** My second point was regarding substitution. Will we be able to substitute out a player who performed poorly, in say his 2nd match, for a player whose team is yet to play their 2nd match? This will be the only way substitutions will even make sense, right? Also, can we change a captain that didn't perform so well for someone whose team is yet to play? (I.e. if my captain fails in his 2nd game, am i stuck with that performance for my 2nd game or can i change it to someone who is yet to play his 2nd game?)
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They've not started private leagues yet, will be ready in a day or 2 I think
Thankyou for the information. Much appreciated.
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Old 11th February 2011, 10:49
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^ Me too mate, but I guess nothing wrong in trying a new league, although the world cup is not time for experiments
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^ Me too mate, but I guess nothing wrong in trying a new league, although the world cup is not time for experiments
So should we send Junaid Khan back home and get Sohail Tanveer?
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Old 11th February 2011, 17:07
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Unlike other fantasy games, the playing eleven is not rigid. You need to have atleast 3 batsmen, atleast 1 all-rounder, atleast 1 bowler and 1 manadatory keeper. Its pretty flexible which makes it more interesting.
Thanks.
One more question/issue!

Right now we can not select more than 4 players from a team.... but come final time.... there will be only two teams playing. That means.... at the most, we'll be playing only 8 players..... with 3 out of 11 from the losing semi-finalists?
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Old 11th February 2011, 17:10
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Did you guys increase the allotted amount money?

I picked quite a decent team, quite easily in my opinion. Sure I have some minnow players, but I'm sure they're well worth it.

It'd be nice if you could add .3 million more though
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Old 11th February 2011, 17:11
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I prefer the cricketweb one, tbh.
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Also, any chance you guys will update the kits in the graphics?

Obviously not necessary but would be a cool feature.
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Old 11th February 2011, 17:39
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Old 11th February 2011, 20:15
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One question from Ebikhan

Bro what if i take 1 of my player from the subs and switch with some other guy in the playing eleven, will that count as a transfer or will it be just for free.

and then another thing is that can you increase the tranfers because in the finals we will be needing atleast 10 transfers and in total there are atleast 44-50 games and in each game we will be usuing 1 tranfers atleast .

I check the cricinfo fantasy game and check the transfer and it said

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You can also make up to 40 team changes during the Group Stages and up to 10 team changes from the start of the Quarter-Finals until the end of the competition.
SO i was thinking if you could make something similar to that.

I think you should have 35 changes and 8 cahnges in the GS and QF because you guys are giving us subs, so thats why a little less then cricinfo, but final decision is urs and what ever decision you take i'm ok with it.

rather then that i like the cost of each player, i dont think that needs changes because i think us users should learn how to spend our money wisely on players.

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Old 11th February 2011, 21:55
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Salam everyone,

I am sorry for the delayed response as we were busy in the development of new features. I will try answering all pending questions which will hopefully clear alot of things.

1. We just have launched private leagues and I have created a private league for PP members. To join you will need to go to this page:
http://www.cricketcrackit.com/joinleague.php

The code for joining PakPassion private league is: 02026999-41291363

In case the moderators of this forum want to manage this private league, I can transfer the ownership to anyone of them.

2. Secondly, on the feedback of alot people we have also implemented the private profile feature. Now you can set your team as invisible to other managers. By default, your profile will be public.

3. Last but not the least, we will be giving away some cool rewards for high performers in the world cup that includes brand new iPod and iPad.

More details about this can be checked at:
http://www.cricketcrackit.com/prizes.php

4. We are working on the points calculation and will be sharing that soon.

5. The other important pending thing is updating the squad for Pakistan, Australia, England, India and Zimbabwe.

Thanks again everyone for the patience and cooperation. Also, thanks once again for making CCI as PP's official fantasy competition for this World Cup. I hope we will have some good fun InshaAllah.

I will be waiting for the feedback on the latest features. Thanks once again !

Best Regards.

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Old 11th February 2011, 23:24
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why are indian players so expensive. Would have loved at least 30 modifications. How does this game work. you get one point for every 5 runs and 5 points for every wicket. I am totally lost?
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Old 11th February 2011, 23:32
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why are indian players so expensive. Would have loved at least 30 modifications. How does this game work. you get one point for every 5 runs and 5 points for every wicket. I am totally lost?
The points calculation formula is not 100% completed. InshaAllah, it will be up soon.

Indians players are expensive because they have done well in past. The price of a player has been calculated based on the weight-age of his performance in last 4 years, overall performance and performance against test playing nations.

Once the points system is up, I think you will have good feel about it. Thanks for your support.
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Old 11th February 2011, 23:38
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Just think it needs at least 35 modifications, 20 is just too less
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Old 11th February 2011, 23:44
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Just think it needs at least 35 modifications, 20 is just too less
I agree with this. there are going to be 46 games before semi finals and we can't even change one player per game on average.
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Old 12th February 2011, 01:37
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I like that.

Then you can't chop and change your squad according to the games being played. You pretty much have to pick one, great squad of 15 and then really only make the substitutions if you get injuries or really, really bad performances.

Much better style for me.

Remember, whatever problems you have with the game, so will everyone else, so it's an even playing field no matter what.
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Old 12th February 2011, 19:22
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Old 12th February 2011, 21:54
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Old 13th February 2011, 00:31
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so after quarter finals or semi finals do we get to select a new team without using transfers or the 20 transfers are for the whole tournament.
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Old 13th February 2011, 05:58
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Old 13th February 2011, 06:11
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Guys, can we all please have a PP League on ESPN?
It was already made.

ESPN Group/League
http://games.espn.go.com/cricket-pic...up?groupID=429


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Cmon PPers this will be a very interesting contest join !
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Old 13th February 2011, 06:44
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Old 13th February 2011, 08:10
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Guys, there will be only two official WC competitions on PP.

One is the Predict the Winner on ESPN which is being managed by W63L35.

The other is the CricketCrackit Fantasy Competition (to be managed by Atif and I).

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