Confirmed Transfers Thread - Summer 2011

[AZ]

Rafinha was pretty poor in Italy so not sure...jury still out.

[Theo_14]

Originally Posted by AZ Rafinha was pretty poor in Italy so not sure...jury still out.

The tempo of Bundesliga may suit his style of play, who knows?

Opening post edited.

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Rafinha is defensively suspect. He's definitely a good player in Bundesliga, but, not someone who'd give Bayern any edge in the Champions League.

[AZ]

Federico Marchetti (Cagliari ---> Lazio)
Abdoulaye Konko (Genoa ---> Lazio)

[Geordie Ahmed]

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13797585.stm

Newcastle United captain Kevin Nolan has completed his move to West Ham after signing a five-year contract. The 28-year-old, who played under Hammers manager Sam Allardyce at Bolton, has joined the Championship side for an undisclosed fee. "Having the chance to link up with Sam again is a massive thing," said Nolan on the West Ham website. "West Ham have shown a certain hunger and desire to make sure that I became their player." Talks had broken down between Nolan and Newcastle over the length of a new contract. "I am aware that the club made Kevin a good offer to stay, but could not agree over the contract," Magpies manager Alan Pardew told the Shields Gazette. "I would like to thank Kevin for his sterling efforts as a player and captain of this club, especially since I took over last season. "He displayed admirable leadership qualities, and I wish him every success at West Ham. It's a great club and I'm sure he will thrive there."

[Geordie Ahmed]

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13792378.stm

Newcastle United have completed the signing of Senegal striker Demba Ba from West Ham. The 26-year-old, who scored seven goals in 13 outings for the Hammers in the second half of the 2010-11 campaign, has joined on a three-year deal. Newcastle manager Alan Pardew said: "Demba made a great impression at West Ham last season and is a great signing for the club. "He has pace, excellent technical ability, is good in the air."

[iHammad]

Good luck to Demba, hopefully he comes good for Geordie's team.

[Amir]

Could you imagine 56,000 Geordie's all shouting Baaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaa Best chant ever.

[Markhor]

Newcastle sign Rennes midfielder Sylvain Marveaux

Newcastle have signed midfielder Sylvain Marveaux from French club Rennes on a five-year deal. The 25-year-old left-sided player had also been linked with Liverpool but will complete a move to St James' Park for an undisclosed fee on 1 July. Magpies manager Alan Pardew said: "It's a coup to have signed Sylvain, who has had interest from a number of clubs. "He may not be well known to many of our fans, but he is a player we have been keeping an eye on for some time." Marveaux is the third Frenchman recruited by Newcastle recently after Hatem Ben Arfa and Yohan Cabaye. And confirmation of his capture comes a day after the Magpies signed Senegal international striker Demba Ba. Marveaux will help to offset the loss of Newcastle skipper Kevin Nolan, who joined West Ham on Thursday.

Poor signing,this guy even failed the medical at Liverpool,considering the number of crocks (Aurelio,Agger,Aquilani,Kewell) that have passed the medical there.

He only played 10 matches last season and has suffered a re-occurrence of his groin injury.He is on a free though so it depends whether Newcastle can give him a chance and see how he goes from there.

[PakFan2010]

Newcastle are signing crocks now.

Demba Ba is one tackle away from his knee dying and the frenchie has been injured for most of the last 3 years.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Markhor Newcastle sign Rennes midfielder Sylvain Marveaux Poor signing,this guy even failed the medical at Liverpool,considering the number of crocks (Aurelio,Agger,Aquilani,Kewell) that have passed the medical there. He only played 10 matches last season and has suffered a re-occurrence of his groin injury.He is on a free though so it depends whether Newcastle can give him a chance and see how he goes from there.

Actually he denies failing a medical at Liverpool, he says the deal did not happen because of contractual reasons

His injury record is quite poor BUT on a free he is a fairly low risk signing

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Newcastle are signing crocks now. Demba Ba is one tackle away from his knee dying and the frenchie has been injured for most of the last 3 years.

Ba has still played a decent amount of games over the last 3-4 years so not too worried

I think you should be more concerned with your best players wanting to leave

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Actually he denies failing a medical at Liverpool, he says the deal did not happen because of contractual reasons His injury record is quite poor BUT on a free he is a fairly low risk signing

Well he would say that wouldn't he ? His injury record is self-explanatory.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Markhor Well he would say that wouldn't he ? His injury record is self-explanatory.

and vice versa

He passed our medical and that is good enough for me

[suhaib]

MANCHESTER CITY: The club have signed the son of former Manchester United hero Andy Cole on a full-time basis. Devante Cole, 16, has been given scholarship forms at Eastlands. (Mail on Sunday)

[Geordie Ahmed]

Saw him play for England U16's a couple of months back - big lad, looked impressive

[AZ]

Bojan to Roma is official.

[suhaib]

JUVENTUS SNAP UP QUARTET! Juve sign four Italy internationals Alessandro Matri, Fabio Quagliarella, Simone Pepe and Marco Motta! Matri comes for 15.5m euros; Quagliarella 10.5m euros; Pepe 7.5m euros and Motta 3.75m euros. Wow!

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by AZ Bojan to Roma is official.

not yet

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Markhor Newcastle sign Rennes midfielder Sylvain Marveaux Poor signing,this guy even failed the medical at Liverpool,considering the number of crocks (Aurelio,Agger,Aquilani,Kewell) that have passed the medical there. He only played 10 matches last season and has suffered a re-occurrence of his groin injury.He is on a free though so it depends whether Newcastle can give him a chance and see how he goes from there.

Liverpool's medical chief Peter Brukner confirms that Marveaux did not fail a medical at the club

[suhaib]

Ashley young has had his medical at MU

[Afrid1]

Ashley Young has officialy signed for Manchester United

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13882802.stm
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...er-united.aspx

[sully3]

Yeah officially Ashley Young is a United player, the deal was done about 10 days ago but he decided to go on holiday came back and signed with the club.

A signing which most fans are "iffy" about, the most worrying thing, was he brought as a replacement for Nani.
other questions over him are how does he improve united in any way? Barcelona wont look at him and think united is going to be any better with him in the team.

As my personal opinion, i think he was brought to replace Nani who is on his way to the "yearly big Madrid signing to sell shirts"

[suhaib]

nani would never be sold, fergie will never let him leave, young was bought to play as second striker.

[sully3]

Originally Posted by suhaib nani would never be sold, fergie will never let him leave, young was bought to play as second striker.

Hernandez
Berbatov
Owen
Wellbeck
Macheda (probably will go on loan)

[Fireworks11]

A potentially great signing for Utd. Ashley has severe pace, hopefully he can work on his left foot as he tends to always cut in from the left. There'll be good options on the wings next season.

[sully3]

United certainly have the best wingers in the world right now if you don't consider Ronaldo as one.

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Nani is certainly one of the best.

Valencia and Young are not close to being in the league of world's best. Giggs is great but he can't play for the entire season.

Look at Bayern, they have Robben and Ribery - certainly a better pair than Man United's.

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud Nani is certainly one of the best. Valencia and Young are not close to being in the league of world's best. Giggs is great but he can't play for the entire season. Look at Bayern, they have Robben and Ribery - certainly a better pair than Man United's.

robben is not even better than park.

secondly young will get to prove him self at MU, playing with villa he was under rated.

valencia may not be a big name, but he is one of the best grafters in the world and exactly what you want on the wing. when ever he plays our performance suddenly gets much better.

[BoomBoomAli]

Originally Posted by suhaib robben is not even better than park. secondly young will get to prove him self at MU, playing with villa he was under rated. valencia may not be a big name, but he is one of the best grafters in the world and exactly what you want on the wing. when ever he plays our performance suddenly gets much better.

I stopped readint at robben is not even better than park.

Seriously what world are you living in? Park is a NOTHING player, Robben is world class.

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Originally Posted by suhaib robben is not even better than park.

If anything, I feel that Ribery is a bit overrated. But, only a bit.

Robben is absolutely brilliant whenever he's not injured. I have not seen a single full back who has lasted a match without being destroyed on a single occasion against Robben.

In fact, the last time Robben played Manchester United, he sunk them with this -



which Park wouldn't do in his entire career. (Don't get me wrong, I do rate Park as a useful player) In fact, the best winger Man United have got, i.e, Nani is not as good as Robben.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by suhaib robben is not even better than park. secondly young will get to prove him self at MU, playing with villa he was under rated. valencia may not be a big name, but he is one of the best grafters in the world and exactly what you want on the wing. when ever he plays our performance suddenly gets much better.

Just when you think Suhaib has peaked with the gems he manages to surprise you

[suhaib]

park is probably the most under rated player in the world, just look at his performances against chelsea and in the cl last season, robben could never play such a game, he plays his heart out and as a manager i will take park over robben anyday because of this and it was because of this even fergie took park over nani in the cl final and other big games, he brings something to the game which other players dont and even a fool would rate nani better than robben.

[TheHK16]

arsenal have signed alvarez never heard of him fabrehas going now for sure

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Originally Posted by TheHK16 arsenal have signed alvarez never heard of him fabrehas going now for sure

Erm...Ricky Alvarez will play wide in our line up.

Also, it is not confirmed. Just that Palermo president Mauro Zamparini said that Arsenal have already signed Alvarez.

He was one of the star players of Velez who won the Argentinian league. There were offers from Malaga, Arsenal, Inter and Palermo for him.

Question is - are we going to bring in Gervinho after this? If we will, then, one of Arshavin or Rosicky might be gone if Nasri stays.

[TheHK16]

he can play anywhere in midfield

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Originally Posted by suhaib park is probably the most under rated player in the world, just look at his performances against chelsea and in the cl last season, robben could never play such a game, he plays his heart out and as a manager i will take park over robben anyday because of this and it was because of this even fergie took park over nani in the cl final and other big games, he brings something to the game which other players dont and even a fool would rate nani better than robben.

Robben would be your best attacking player if he ever plays for you.

[Amir]

Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud Robben would be your best attacking player if he ever plays for you.

that would be the problem if we ever signed him!

[Geordie Ahmed]

I like Park, I think he is somewhat underrated - all teams would be chuffed to have a Park in their team/squad BUT never in a million years is he better than Robben

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud Robben would be your best attacking player if he ever plays for you.

news for you is that nani is also an attacking player, as is rooney, both which are way better than robben.

infact robben will have a big difficultly getting into the squad as he will never replace nani or valenica as valencia is used as a grafter and works so well with rooney, secondly park will always be MU second winger due to his work rate and playing his heart out running up and down the pitch for 90 minutes which no one else can do and also due to his defensive plays on the wing he is the exact player who you would want to keep in your hand. robben being similar to nani would therefore not even make the team.

infact, fergie has had plently of chances to sign robben before but never has and never will/

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Fergie was beaten by Chelsea when he desperately wanted to sign Robben. After that, there has been only one window of opportunity for him when Robben went to Bayern who happened to have his compatriot Van Gaal as the coach.

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud Fergie was beaten by Chelsea when he desperately wanted to sign Robben. After that, there has been only one window of opportunity for him when Robben went to Bayern who happened to have his compatriot Van Gaal as the coach.

fergie was only offering £5million for him at that time, if he wanted he could have brought him but did not want to over pay, we could have easily matched chelseas £12m bid.

after RM threw him away fergie was never going to match BM over inflated price, if we wanted we could have got him for free with the 80m for ronaldo if fergie negotiated on it but we didn't need him.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by suhaib fergie was only offering £5million for him at that time, if he wanted he could have brought him but did not want to over pay, we could have easily matched chelseas £12m bid. after RM threw him away fergie was never going to match BM over inflated price, if we wanted we could have got him for free with the 80m for ronaldo if fergie negotiated on it but we didn't need him.

Well yeah you did, that way he could not have knocked you out of the CL

[PakFan2010]

Suhaib

Are you on drugs?

Robben is 10 times better than Park.

Robben carried his side to the CL Final.

Robben has been injured for most of the season but he has still racked up a silly amount of assists and goals.

Please use your brain next time !

[suhaib]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Suhaib Are you on drugs? Robben is 10 times better than Park. Robben carried his side to the CL Final. Robben has been injured for most of the season but he has still racked up a silly amount of assists and goals. Please use your brain next time !

yes just like bale is the best in the world

you allready showed your 'brain' in the tottenham thread.

[161 KPH]

I think Park is underrated and a fantastic player in the squad however if I had the choice it's gonna be Robben every time.

[PakFan2010]

Originally Posted by suhaib yes just like bale is the best in the world you allready showed your 'brain' in the tottenham thread.

Bale is the best LM in the world.

Fact.

Ribery has been poor for a year.
Ronaldo plays LF
Robben plays RM.

There is nobody as good as Bale who is a natural LM.

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Just when you think Suhaib has peaked with the gems he manages to surprise you

hes great for comedy value!

[Amjid Javed]

PF2010 and Suhaib, now this is a battle that is worth reading

[sully3]

what rubbish comparison to make robben vs park.

Robben is a out and out attacking winger who's mian job is to set up goals or cut in the box and shoot.

Park plays in the most physically demanding league in the world, his role is to run-run-run whether it is chasing opposition players or wether he is chasing the ball in the opposition half. he is a completely different player to robben.
Robben could never in a million years do what park does and park will never ever be able to do what robben does attacking wise.

It's a silly comparison and never should be debated upon. if you want someone to attack from the wing you choose Robben, if you want a player who runs around and man mark opposition players all over the pitch you choose Park.
Both could play for any team in the world barring Barca which is understandable.

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Originally Posted by sully3 what rubbish comparison to make robben vs park. Robben is a out and out attacking winger who's mian job is to set up goals or cut in the box and shoot. Park plays in the most physically demanding league in the world, his role is to run-run-run whether it is chasing opposition players or wether he is chasing the ball in the opposition half. he is a completely different player to robben. Robben could never in a million years do what park does and park will never ever be able to do what robben does attacking wise.

That's like saying that calling Robben better than David James is rubbish because Robben can't keep goals and James can't play in outfield.

[PakFan2010]

Who is better

Van Der Vaart or Bebe?

Roughly the same price.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Who is better

Hernandez or Robbie Keane?

Robbie Keane cost more

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Who is better Van Der Vaart or Bebe? Roughly the same price.

Bebe and its not even close.

[Pakhtoon_Rules]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Who is better Hernandez or Robbie Keane? Robbie Keane cost more

Keane is by far the better player, herndez wil have his days but can't see him as a consistent performer as keane was for Totenham.

[PakFan2010]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Who is better Hernandez or Robbie Keane? Robbie Keane cost more

When Hernandez reaches 50 International goals then come back and speak to me.

[Pakhtoon_Rules]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 When Hernandez reaches 50 International goals then come back and speak to me.

Ok brother.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 When Hernandez reaches 50 International goals then come back and speak to me.

You are either an idiot or a troll - there is no other explanation for the nonsense you post

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Pakhtoon_Rules Keane is by far the better player, herndez wil have his days but can't see him as a consistent performer as keane was for Totenham.

You need to watch more football

Hernandez currently is better than Robbie Keane and is even better than Robbie Keane was at his peak

[Pakhtoon_Rules]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed You need to watch more football Hernandez currently is better than Robbie Keane and is even better than Robbie Keane was at his peak

Hernandez is just another player with his days, wait till end of this season nd the verdict will be out.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Pakhtoon_Rules Hernandez is just another player with his days, wait till end of this season nd the verdict will be out.

I don't need to wait for anything - I have seen him play a full season and I have seen him play for Mexico, I have seen enough to know the lad is quality, more than your average player

[PakFan2010]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed I don't need to wait for anything - I have seen him play a full season and I have seen him play for Mexico, I have seen enough to know the lad is quality, more than your average player

Keane and Berbatov partnership was the greatest in the history of the Premier League.

Hernandez is good but not on the level of Keane.

[sully3]

Hernandez has already scored 21 goals in 28 matches for Mexico which is amazing since he only made his debut in 2009.

Stop trolling man!

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Keane and Berbatov partnership was the greatest in the history of the Premier League. Hernandez is good but not on the level of Keane.

It gets better

[Pakhtoon_Rules]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed I don't need to wait for anything - I have seen him play a full season and I have seen him play for Mexico, I have seen enough to know the lad is quality, more than your average player

My average player lol
Iamnt a supporter of keane or totenham or infact any english team.
Its a fact that hernndez isnt a proven talent but then again in england rooney and caroll worth alot but compare to world they are just crap.

[sully3]

Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud That's like saying that calling Robben better than David James is rubbish because Robben can't keep goals and James can't play in outfield.

wow your logic is awful.

Messi can't play as a centre back so he is rubbish.

here is parks role in the team:

Park has received much acclaim at Manchester United for his work rate and energy which have seen him deployed all over the midfield, including in the middle of the pitch and on both wings, where he operates as a "defensive winger"

he is a defensive winger, so pls
dnt compare him to Robben.

someone like nani, ronaldo, should
be compared to robben.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Pakhtoon_Rules My average player lol Iamnt a supporter of keane or totenham or infact any english team. Its a fact that hernndez isnt a proven talent but then again in england rooney and caroll worth alot but compare to world they are just crap.

I don't think you understand the term "your average player"

[161 KPH]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Keane and Berbatov partnership was the greatest in the history of the Premier League. Hernandez is good but not on the level of Keane.

You surely can't actually believe this

[AZ]

oh dear God...one of the main reasons I don't watch EPL.

the delusional fans

[KingOfDestiny]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Keane and Berbatov partnership was the greatest in the history of the Premier League. Hernandez is good but not on the level of Keane.

Better than Shearer + Ferdinand? Yorke + Cole? Owen + Heskey? Hughes + Cantona? Bergkamp + Henry?

[sully3]

Originally Posted by KingOfDestiny Better than Shearer + Ferdinand? Yorke + Cole? Owen + Heskey? Hughes + Cantona? Bergkamp + Henry?

add to the list

Bergkamp & Henry

Ruud Van nistelrooy and Rooney

Owen & Fowler

Hasselbank & eider goudjhonson

[waseem84]

Keane and Berbatov was an amazing partnership, both strikers had the touch of class, picked eachother out at will. if these two had the spurs midfield of today id put spurs up there for fav to EPL.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by waseem84 Keane and Berbatov was an amazing partnership, both strikers had the touch of class, picked eachother out at will. if these two had the spurs midfield of today id put spurs up there for fav to EPL.

They were certainly a good partnership BUT the greatest ever in the PL? No way

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Originally Posted by sully3 wow your logic is awful. Messi can't play as a centre back so he is rubbish. here is parks role in the team: Park has received much acclaim at Manchester United for his work rate and energy which have seen him deployed all over the midfield, including in the middle of the pitch and on both wings, where he operates as a "defensive winger" he is a defensive winger, so pls dnt compare him to Robben. someone like nani, ronaldo, should be compared to robben.

That's not my logic. That's your logic.


You'd stop anyone who claims Messi is better than Rio Ferdinand because they play in different positions and have different game.

Just like you're claiming that Robben can't be called better than Park because both have different roles (even though they play in similar positions)

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 Keane and Berbatov partnership was the greatest in the history of the Premier League. Hernandez is good but not on the level of Keane.

I am beginning to doubt that you're a Spurs fan.

[Geordie Ahmed]

They are not even the best Spurs partnership, Klinsmann and Sheringham was better

[Amir]

For the Park-Robben debate, depends on circumstances. In a playing 11, any day Robben. What a fantastic player but does not track back. However, if I was choosing a squad over a season....not sure if I want someone who plays 25% of those games. Yeah yeah, he knocked us out but that was one season. What did he do last season? Season before that? and that? You get the drift. But Robben is definitely the better player than Park. However, Park is a cult hero and would never trade him away now.

Geordie did you see Gold Cup final highlights? If not, go watch it. Some real class goals from both sides. Barcaesque passing (even by the Amreekans). Mexico's first goal was class, Chicho was acting as Xavi instead of (fat) Ronaldo in this instance and just cut Amreeka open with a through pass. And make sure you watch Mexico's fourth, what class by Dos Santos (a blooming Spurs talent who is to leave them soon )

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by PakFan2010 When Hernandez reaches 50 International goals then come back and speak to me.

Keane has 51 goals in 108 appearances. Hernandez has 21 in 29 appearances.

Hernandez will have 84 goals at this pace in 108 appearances.

Are you seriously doubting Chicharito's talent? The guy is going to become a truly world class striker, just watch him play.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Amir For the Park-Robben debate, depends on circumstances. In a playing 11, any day Robben. What a fantastic player but does not track back. However, if I was choosing a squad over a season....not sure if I want someone who plays 25% of those games. Yeah yeah, he knocked us out but that was one season. What did he do last season? Season before that? and that? You get the drift. But Robben is definitely the better player than Park. However, Park is a cult hero and would never trade him away now. Geordie did you see Gold Cup final highlights? If not, go watch it. Some real class goals from both sides. Barcaesque passing (even by the Amreekans). Mexico's first goal was class, Chicho was acting as Xavi instead of (fat) Ronaldo in this instance and just cut Amreeka open with a through pass. And make sure you watch Mexico's fourth, what class by Dos Santos (a blooming Spurs talent who is to leave them soon )

I have the Gold Cup final recorded, have not watched it yet - meant to be a cracking game, heard even Adu played well (was shocked to hear he was in the US team, thought he was a forgotten kid)

Dos Santos has been brilliant for Mexico, always plays class for them - needs to leave Spurs asap really. I think he has been linked with Sevilla lately

As for Mexico, they are a cracking side - shame they are sending a weak squad to Copa America, would love to have seen a full strength Mexico side, reckon they could have been very competitive

[sully3]

About Mexico the Cocaf cup was the 1st time I have really seen them play over a period of time, obviously i was watching because of Hernandez but anyway back to point.
Mexico are a bloody good team, there passing reminded me of Barca. Dos santos is a completely different player when he plays for them and you can see why once he was rated to become one of the best in the world.

2 things that stand out for Mexico even though there defence is quiet awful they have a very good goalie. And in Hernandez they have found a world class striker which they have lacked in past.
you also have to remember 5 of there players got banned before the cup for performance enhancing drugs, with the 5 players back in the team, I reckon mexico could easily make the copa America semi's and from there it's anyone game.