When will Afridi win the game when the team is in crisis?

[Saqs]

Originally Posted by ShehryarK Not this again. On the plus side, debating with you gives one a certain sense of deja-vu... but the sheer mind-numbing ennui of reading the same reheated clichés masquerading as cricket arguments gets somewhat tiresome in my advancing years... so I'll keep this brief. Firstly, Afridi already played a "decent innings" two innings ago. Secondly, this innings was not decent. It was anything but! Had Freddie The Flintoff or Kevi The Bok done this for the UN Team, or some over-sized cuddly panda accomplished this for our Friendly Neighbours, their respective media, the gliterati of the cricketing pundotracy and the fawning millions would have been hailing it as an all-time great ODI innings. Because it is just Pakistan, and just in Sharjah, the whole world goes 'meh'. However, at least Pakistanis shouldn't understate it. To say it was a 'decent innings' is as useful as asserting Michaelangelo was a 'roof-painter'. --------- Returning to your broader point... Afridi's scores this series: 29 from 14 balls, run-out; batting at #8, coming in at 164/6: Second-Higest Scorer for Pak. 15 from 15 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 193/5 75 from 65 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 71/5: Highest Scorer for Pak. By any reckoning, for a #7 or #8, and using your yard-stick of 'decency' as our measure: That's one 'half decent' contribution One 'more than decent' contribution, And one match-winning, series-defining contribution that's completely, obscenely, off-the-charts indecent. Or in other words: 3 out of 3. Even if you ignore the middle innings [15 off 15], he's delivered with the bat in two out of three matches - whereas you were arguing his one 'decent' knock would be followed by '20 duds'. ----------- Afridi really should have one won three MOMs yesterday - the first for his batting, the second for his bowling, and the third for his sheer indomitable will, for acting as the team's talisman and lifting the side and the crowd through sheer force of personality. This third one shouldn't be understated. We had no business even contesting that game when the Lanakans were 155/3. Afridi's wicket of Sanga lifted the team and made them believe the impossible could be possible. Of course, such moments of magic, when the impossible suddenly looks possible, when the players, the bowlers, the fielders, the crowd, are not new for Pak; Wasim and Waqar did that countless times, on this very ground. ------------ Anyway. Let's agree to disagree on the above, and agree wholeheartedly on the following:

Take a bow.

Where you been?

[Watsupdoc]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Please dont insult my blockbuster thread, it was not a criticism, it was a fact

Your "fact" has been blown to smithereens

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Not this again. On the plus side, debating with you gives one a certain sense of deja-vu... but the sheer mind-numbing ennui of reading the same reheated clichés masquerading as cricket arguments gets somewhat tiresome in my advancing years... so I'll keep this brief. Firstly, Afridi already played a "decent innings" two innings ago. Secondly, this innings was not decent. It was anything but! Had Freddie The Flintoff or Kevi The Bok done this for the UN Team, or some over-sized cuddly panda accomplished this for our Friendly Neighbours, their respective media, the gliterati of the cricketing pundotracy and the fawning millions would have been hailing it as an all-time great ODI innings. Because it is just Pakistan, and just in Sharjah, the whole world goes 'meh'. However, at least Pakistanis shouldn't understate it. To say it was a 'decent innings' is as useful as asserting Michaelangelo was a 'roof-painter'. --------- Returning to your broader point... Afridi's scores this series: 29 from 14 balls, run-out; batting at #8, coming in at 164/6: Second-Higest Scorer for Pak. 15 from 15 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 193/5 75 from 65 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 71/5: Highest Scorer for Pak. By any reckoning, for a #7 or #8, and using your yard-stick of 'decency' as our measure: That's one 'half decent' contribution One 'more than decent' contribution, And one match-winning, series-defining contribution that's completely, obscenely, off-the-charts indecent. Or in other words: 3 out of 3. Even if you ignore the middle innings [15 off 15 , he's delivered with the bat in two out of three matches - whereas you were arguing his one 'decent' knock would be followed by '20 duds'. ----------- Afridi really should have one won three MOMs yesterday - the first for his batting, the second for his bowling, and the third for his sheer indomitable will, for acting as the team's talisman and lifting the side and the crowd through sheer force of personality. This third one shouldn't be understated. We had no business even contesting that game when the Lanakans were 155/3. Afridi's wicket of Sanga lifted the team and made them believe the impossible could be possible. Of course, such moments of magic, when the impossible suddenly looks possible, when the players, the bowlers, the fielders, the crowd, are not new for Pak; Wasim and Waqar did that countless times, on this very ground. ?

Some facts and some stats for Zaid65!!

[Genghis]

Originally Posted by ShehryarK Not this again. On the plus side, debating with you gives one a certain sense of deja-vu... but the sheer mind-numbing ennui of reading the same reheated clichés masquerading as cricket arguments gets somewhat tiresome in my advancing years... so I'll keep this brief. Firstly, Afridi already played a "decent innings" two innings ago. Secondly, this innings was not decent. It was anything but! Had Freddie The Flintoff or Kevi The Bok done this for the UN Team, or some over-sized cuddly panda accomplished this for our Friendly Neighbours, their respective media, the gliterati of the cricketing pundotracy and the fawning millions would have been hailing it as an all-time great ODI innings. Because it is just Pakistan, and just in Sharjah, the whole world goes 'meh'. However, at least Pakistanis shouldn't understate it. To say it was a 'decent innings' is as useful as asserting Michaelangelo was a 'roof-painter'. --------- Returning to your broader point... Afridi's scores this series: 29 from 14 balls, run-out; batting at #8, coming in at 164/6: Second-Higest Scorer for Pak. 15 from 15 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 193/5 75 from 65 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 71/5: Highest Scorer for Pak. By any reckoning, for a #7 or #8, and using your yard-stick of 'decency' as our measure: That's one 'half decent' contribution One 'more than decent' contribution, And one match-winning, series-defining contribution that's completely, obscenely, off-the-charts indecent. Or in other words: 3 out of 3. Even if you ignore the middle innings [15 off 15], he's delivered with the bat in two out of three matches - whereas you were arguing his one 'decent' knock would be followed by '20 duds'. ----------- Afridi really should have one won three MOMs yesterday - the first for his batting, the second for his bowling, and the third for his sheer indomitable will, for acting as the team's talisman and lifting the side and the crowd through sheer force of personality. This third one shouldn't be understated. We had no business even contesting that game when the Lanakans were 155/3. Afridi's wicket of Sanga lifted the team and made them believe the impossible could be possible. Of course, such moments of magic, when the impossible suddenly looks possible, when the players, the bowlers, the fielders, the crowd, are not new for Pak; Wasim and Waqar did that countless times, on this very ground. ------------ Anyway. Let's agree to disagree on the above, and agree wholeheartedly on the following:

And that ladies and gentleman should be enough to silence Zaid and any others. Top post SK! We don't see enough of you these days but when we do, you leave a mark.

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by ShehryarK Not this again. On the plus side, debating with you gives one a certain sense of deja-vu... but the sheer mind-numbing ennui of reading the same reheated clichés masquerading as cricket arguments gets somewhat tiresome in my advancing years... so I'll keep this brief. Firstly, Afridi already played a "decent innings" two innings ago. Secondly, this innings was not decent. It was anything but! Had Freddie The Flintoff or Kevi The Bok done this for the UN Team, or some over-sized cuddly panda accomplished this for our Friendly Neighbours, their respective media, the gliterati of the cricketing pundotracy and the fawning millions would have been hailing it as an all-time great ODI innings. Because it is just Pakistan, and just in Sharjah, the whole world goes 'meh'. However, at least Pakistanis shouldn't understate it. To say it was a 'decent innings' is as useful as asserting Michaelangelo was a 'roof-painter'. --------- Returning to your broader point... Afridi's scores this series: 29 from 14 balls, run-out; batting at #8, coming in at 164/6: Second-Higest Scorer for Pak. 15 from 15 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 193/5 75 from 65 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 71/5: Highest Scorer for Pak. By any reckoning, for a #7 or #8, and using your yard-stick of 'decency' as our measure: That's one 'half decent' contribution One 'more than decent' contribution, And one match-winning, series-defining contribution that's completely, obscenely, off-the-charts indecent. Or in other words: 3 out of 3. Even if you ignore the middle innings [15 off 15], he's delivered with the bat in two out of three matches - whereas you were arguing his one 'decent' knock would be followed by '20 duds'. ----------- Afridi really should have one won three MOMs yesterday - the first for his batting, the second for his bowling, and the third for his sheer indomitable will, for acting as the team's talisman and lifting the side and the crowd through sheer force of personality. This third one shouldn't be understated. We had no business even contesting that game when the Lanakans were 155/3. Afridi's wicket of Sanga lifted the team and made them believe the impossible could be possible. Of course, such moments of magic, when the impossible suddenly looks possible, when the players, the bowlers, the fielders, the crowd, are not new for Pak; Wasim and Waqar did that countless times, on this very ground. ------------ Anyway. Let's agree to disagree on the above, and agree wholeheartedly on the following:

Let me ask you this, seriously what you had in breakfast?

If this doesn't deserve PoTW, I think that award will be really over-rated.

[Random Aussie]

Lol@this thread.

Zaid must be happy

[AZ]

Originally Posted by ChampLeO Show your face Zaid65 show your face And I mean literally show your face upload a picture of yourself on Pakpassion so we can all see what a man looks like after getting pawned so bad

dunno about Zaid65 but I did find this..

[PakPosheeda]

Originally Posted by ShehryarK Not this again. On the plus side, debating with you gives one a certain sense of deja-vu... but the sheer mind-numbing ennui of reading the same reheated clichés masquerading as cricket arguments gets somewhat tiresome in my advancing years... so I'll keep this brief. Firstly, Afridi already played a "decent innings" two innings ago. Secondly, this innings was not decent. It was anything but! Had Freddie The Flintoff or Kevi The Bok done this for the UN Team, or some over-sized cuddly panda accomplished this for our Friendly Neighbours, their respective media, the gliterati of the cricketing pundotracy and the fawning millions would have been hailing it as an all-time great ODI innings. Because it is just Pakistan, and just in Sharjah, the whole world goes 'meh'. However, at least Pakistanis shouldn't understate it. To say it was a 'decent innings' is as useful as asserting Michaelangelo was a 'roof-painter'. --------- Returning to your broader point... Afridi's scores this series: 29 from 14 balls, run-out; batting at #8, coming in at 164/6: Second-Higest Scorer for Pak. 15 from 15 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 193/5 75 from 65 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 71/5: Highest Scorer for Pak. By any reckoning, for a #7 or #8, and using your yard-stick of 'decency' as our measure: That's one 'half decent' contribution One 'more than decent' contribution, And one match-winning, series-defining contribution that's completely, obscenely, off-the-charts indecent. Or in other words: 3 out of 3. Even if you ignore the middle innings [15 off 15], he's delivered with the bat in two out of three matches - whereas you were arguing his one 'decent' knock would be followed by '20 duds'. ----------- Afridi really should have one won three MOMs yesterday - the first for his batting, the second for his bowling, and the third for his sheer indomitable will, for acting as the team's talisman and lifting the side and the crowd through sheer force of personality. This third one shouldn't be understated. We had no business even contesting that game when the Lanakans were 155/3. Afridi's wicket of Sanga lifted the team and made them believe the impossible could be possible. Of course, such moments of magic, when the impossible suddenly looks possible, when the players, the bowlers, the fielders, the crowd, are not new for Pak; Wasim and Waqar did that countless times, on this very ground. ------------ Anyway. Let's agree to disagree on the above, and agree wholeheartedly on the following:

Top post. Brilliantly written.

Glad you're not an admin/mod anymore to hold back anything. Really gave it all there. POTW for me (if not I nominate my picture of Afridi that I posted in "Afridi take a bow" thread)

[>>FaHaD<<]

I really dont see what all the fuss is about.

Afridi does not need anyone's endorsement to be termed as the best players doing the rounds in the world of cricket.

If Zaid feels that is not true then that is just a matter of opinion and he very well knows this is a b*tch slap on his face. Nagging by others on this thread only helps him recover from his trauma. I would suggest let this topic be. Pinned and closed to posting. Let him slowly absorb it. The least we can do.

[>>FaHaD<<]

And on the note of an earlier post.

One thing that I like about Afridi is his NEVER SAY DIE attitude. He is always up and willing to work on the game. It is apparent from his irritated look when a single is allowed to be taken or an extra run is leaked where there was only 1 run.

He is always noisy and interactive. 155/3 (chasing 200) would have put down any captain including Misbah, who was quite and gone all plum. Players were dragging themselves through the ground instead of playing.

Afridi can do that!

[Prince_Pathan]

Originally Posted by ShehryarK Not this again. On the plus side, debating with you gives one a certain sense of deja-vu... but the sheer mind-numbing ennui of reading the same reheated clichés masquerading as cricket arguments gets somewhat tiresome in my advancing years... so I'll keep this brief. Firstly, Afridi already played a "decent innings" two innings ago. Secondly, this innings was not decent. It was anything but! Had Freddie The Flintoff or Kevi The Bok done this for the UN Team, or some over-sized cuddly panda accomplished this for our Friendly Neighbours, their respective media, the gliterati of the cricketing pundotracy and the fawning millions would have been hailing it as an all-time great ODI innings. Because it is just Pakistan, and just in Sharjah, the whole world goes 'meh'. However, at least Pakistanis shouldn't understate it. To say it was a 'decent innings' is as useful as asserting Michaelangelo was a 'roof-painter'. --------- Returning to your broader point... Afridi's scores this series: 29 from 14 balls, run-out; batting at #8, coming in at 164/6: Second-Higest Scorer for Pak. 15 from 15 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 193/5 75 from 65 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 71/5: Highest Scorer for Pak. By any reckoning, for a #7 or #8, and using your yard-stick of 'decency' as our measure: That's one 'half decent' contribution One 'more than decent' contribution, And one match-winning, series-defining contribution that's completely, obscenely, off-the-charts indecent. Or in other words: 3 out of 3. Even if you ignore the middle innings [15 off 15], he's delivered with the bat in two out of three matches - whereas you were arguing his one 'decent' knock would be followed by '20 duds'. ----------- Afridi really should have one won three MOMs yesterday - the first for his batting, the second for his bowling, and the third for his sheer indomitable will, for acting as the team's talisman and lifting the side and the crowd through sheer force of personality. This third one shouldn't be understated. We had no business even contesting that game when the Lanakans were 155/3. Afridi's wicket of Sanga lifted the team and made them believe the impossible could be possible. Of course, such moments of magic, when the impossible suddenly looks possible, when the players, the bowlers, the fielders, the crowd, are not new for Pak; Wasim and Waqar did that countless times, on this very ground. ------------ Anyway. Let's agree to disagree on the above, and agree wholeheartedly on the following:

missed reading this guys posts
welcome back dude and awesome post

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Random Aussie Lol@this thread. Zaid must be happy

Like I said, I am fully enjoying this moment and enjoying the celebration of all the Afridi fans, ( open and closet one, in fact this thread has brought some more out of closet ).

After seeing this thread, it is quite clear, this was once in a life time moment for Afridi fans, otherwise you wont see this kind of joy. If this joy was as a result of my pawing in this thread, this also tells you, it took so many years to pawn me, and they were all getting owned day and night ( some of the die hard fans left the forum and came back, SK it is not you .

Anyway, we have long way together yeh safar bara lumba hai ( long journey), but we will make it interesting and fun

[PAF]

Zaid, didn't you enjoyed the Pakistan win? No matter what,but atleast appreciate the guys (Afridi) effort. He single handely won us a game. Have'nt seen many players do that.

Yes, Afridi has been Selfish off late. And everyone knows that what he recently did. But the fact is he'll always remain a MATCH WINNER.

[Shayan]

The reason people like zaid dislike Afridi is precisely because he CAN play innings like the one he played yesterday. He has the ability to bat sensibly and be consistent, yet for the majority of his career he has refused to do so.

Let's hope that yesterday was a turning point (albeit a late one).

Still haven't really understood why zaid has an issue with Afridi's bowling though.

[NJamal]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Like I said, I am fully enjoying this moment and enjoying the celebration of all the Afridi fans, ( open and closet one, in fact this thread has brought some more out of closet ). After seeing this thread, it is quite clear, this was once in a life time moment for Afridi fans, otherwise you wont see this kind of joy. If this joy was as a result of my pawing in this thread, this also tells you, it took so many years to pawn me, and they were all getting owned day and night ( some of the die hard fans left the forum and came back, SK it is not you . Anyway, we have long way together yeh safar bara lumba hai ( long journey), but we will make it interesting and fun

Zaid you had given the word "Dheet" a whole new meaning by still posting in this thread.

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Shayan The reason people like zaid dislike Afridi is precisely because he CAN play innings like the one he played yesterday. He has the ability to bat sensibly and be consistent, yet for the majority of his career he has refused to do so. Let's hope that yesterday was a turning point (albeit a late one). Still haven't really understood why zaid has an issue with Afridi's bowling though.

Thank you for posting with sense ( instead of posting childish smileys like many of them)

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by NJamal Zaid you had given the word "Dheet" a whole new meaning by still posting in this thread.

If I dont post, I am coward, but when I post, I am dheet, have you ever thought about the name of your type of creatures, who are nobody in this forum ?

[Poison]

Again ... what a stupid thread. Some people don't know when to give up.

[Free Hit]

Zaid you shameless attitude walay, read sheryar's post

[Free Hit]

Originally Posted by zaid65 If I dont post, I am coward, but when I post, I am dheet, have you ever thought about the name of your type of creatures, who are nobody in this forum ?

you are a nobody.

[Afridiologist]

If I was in place of zaid, I would have commited suicide after so much of insult d pwnage but alas!!! I reckon there isnot even 0.0000000000001 % dignity associated with mr zaid.

[cricketpassion]

Just to confirm it was done single handedly

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1321887112.959797.jpg

[Warfare]

^Epic!

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Outstanding

[zulfiqar]

the moment afridi scored his 75 (i was jsut keeping track on my phone), I KNEW he'd end up getting 4 or 5 wkts... he's a confidence kind of character, and once he gets going he wants to KEEP going. insane all-round performance, missed the game!

[SAF]

at the sholay pic

[VTEC]

This thread sucks

And yes im a big critic of Afridi but still this thread sucks

[cricmylife]

hey thats enuf...

Shahid Afridi: You are Awful :p

[hahahahahaha lagay raho]

[Hasnain_786]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Like I said, I am fully enjoying this moment and enjoying the celebration of all the Afridi fans, ( open and closet one, in fact this thread has brought some more out of closet ). After seeing this thread, it is quite clear, this was once in a life time moment for Afridi fans, otherwise you wont see this kind of joy. If this joy was as a result of my pawing in this thread, this also tells you, it took so many years to pawn me, and they were all getting owned day and night ( some of the die hard fans left the forum and came back, SK it is not you . Anyway, we have long way together yeh safar bara lumba hai ( long journey), but we will make it interesting and fun

Zaid if you're listening to me. STAY STRONG!

[Prince_Pathan]

Originally Posted by zaid65 If I dont post, I am coward, but when I post, I am dheet, have you ever thought about the name of your type of creatures, who are nobody in this forum ?

if njamal is a nobody then you must be nothing

[Badsha]

This thread has ruined zaids PP career

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Badsha This thread has ruined zaids PP career

This thread has taken to new heights.

It is funny, all the people who I used to own throughout my career is coming out one by one just to level their previous scores ( be-izzati) , I feel so special, I could not said thanks to all of you for making me so special

[cricmylife]

for Zaid for standing his ground!

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by ShehryarK Not this again. On the plus side, debating with you gives one a certain sense of deja-vu... but the sheer mind-numbing ennui of reading the same reheated clichés masquerading as cricket arguments gets somewhat tiresome in my advancing years... so I'll keep this brief. Firstly, Afridi already played a "decent innings" two innings ago. Secondly, this innings was not decent. It was anything but! Had Freddie The Flintoff or Kevi The Bok done this for the UN Team, or some over-sized cuddly panda accomplished this for our Friendly Neighbours, their respective media, the gliterati of the cricketing pundotracy and the fawning millions would have been hailing it as an all-time great ODI innings. Because it is just Pakistan, and just in Sharjah, the whole world goes 'meh'. However, at least Pakistanis shouldn't understate it. To say it was a 'decent innings' is as useful as asserting Michaelangelo was a 'roof-painter'. --------- Returning to your broader point... Afridi's scores this series: 29 from 14 balls, run-out; batting at #8, coming in at 164/6: Second-Higest Scorer for Pak. 15 from 15 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 193/5 75 from 65 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 71/5: Highest Scorer for Pak. By any reckoning, for a #7 or #8, and using your yard-stick of 'decency' as our measure: That's one 'half decent' contribution One 'more than decent' contribution, And one match-winning, series-defining contribution that's completely, obscenely, off-the-charts indecent. Or in other words: 3 out of 3. Even if you ignore the middle innings [15 off 15], he's delivered with the bat in two out of three matches - whereas you were arguing his one 'decent' knock would be followed by '20 duds'. ----------- Afridi really should have one won three MOMs yesterday - the first for his batting, the second for his bowling, and the third for his sheer indomitable will, for acting as the team's talisman and lifting the side and the crowd through sheer force of personality. This third one shouldn't be understated. We had no business even contesting that game when the Lanakans were 155/3. Afridi's wicket of Sanga lifted the team and made them believe the impossible could be possible. Of course, such moments of magic, when the impossible suddenly looks possible, when the players, the bowlers, the fielders, the crowd, are not new for Pak; Wasim and Waqar did that countless times, on this very ground. ------------ Anyway. Let's agree to disagree on the above, and agree wholeheartedly on the following:

Good to see you posting my friend

So far, this performance came against depleted SL team, on top of that this is still SL team ( not Australia, SA, India or England), on top of that it was in UAE ( not in outside the subcontinent region where his performance is not a hidden secredt), on top of that, this performance was not a performance in the semi final of the world cup, it was just a usless match and useless series

I am wondering if Afridi would have given this performance against some top quality team in the major cricketing event ( apart from Tamaha cricket), what would be the reaction of all these fans

[Bouncer]

Zaid, when did you stop playing cricket?

You should have continued on playing beecause after 350+ international game, even you would have turned in a performance like this and had tens of teen age fans and not tens of teen age haters

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by zaid65 this performance came against depleted SL team,

Who is missing besides aging, old and ineffective Murali from their WC team that played in the final?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cric...ch/433606.html

Originally Posted by zaid65 on top of that this is still SL team ( not Australia, SA, India or England),

Sri Lanka were finalists in last two ODI World Cups (2007 & 2011) and 2009 T20 World Cup.

They are ranked ahead of Pakistan and England in ICC's ODI ranking;
http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings...ge/211271.html

Originally Posted by zaid65 on top of that it was in UAE ( not in outside the subcontinent region where his performance is not a hidden secredt),

Now that could be ICC, PCB and SLCB's conspiracy ... to hold matches in UAE ... just to make Afridi look great!
bad bad bad bad bad bad..... ICC, PCB and SLCB!!!

Originally Posted by zaid65 on top of that, this performance was not a performance in the semi final of the world cup, it was just a usless match and useless series

Let's ask Saj to start a petition to ICC ... and ask ICC to only hold World Cup semi-finals... and nothing else.

[Waq]

Why is everybody 'hating' on Zaid65 and what is with some of the real personal remarks I have seen on here and on twitter?

You can dislike Zaid65 but why 'hate'? Cricket is only a game and a time pass for me. Far too many bills for me to pay for me to hate someone who dislikes a player.

Lets now move onto Afridi's performance yesterday. I did not see it but have seen the scorecard. Credit where credit is due - he played an absolute blinder.

This is the first time I remember Afridi really take the game by the scruff of the neck for a long long time. This super hero performance is rare but long may it continue.

I am still not an Afridi fan but hope he continues to play well. He is still likely to let us down more often then not.

On the back of this performance I am happy for him to keep his place in the side and wish him well. I certainly won't be obsessing as I have watched cricket far too long and have not forgotten his past failures and shenanigans.

Pakistan team is what it is all about and not one player.

[nav_ali]

Thread started hasnt even given the player praise for winning the match and series for his team. Instead he still tries to rubbish his achievements. Pathetic! If you were really a pakistan fan you would have atleast been happy when they won.

Also if this is 'ONLY' a depleted sri lanka in UAE why make this thread now? During this series?

[pakcrickfan]

Is Zaid really a pakistani fan or Indian in disguise? The way he hates Afridi, I am not sure even Indians would really hate him that much. I may have joined recently but I have been lurking this forum for long time, he has never had to tell anything good about Afridi even when Afridi produces a great performance.

[praveen]

Well done Afridi, but would do good to prove the OP wrong more often.All said, he has become a beast of a bowler in ODIs

[NJamal]

Originally Posted by zaid65 If I dont post, I am coward, but when I post, I am dheet, have you ever thought about the name of your type of creatures, who are nobody in this forum ?

I would prefer to be a "nobody" to the shameless person which you are.

[zaid65]

Why is everybody 'hating' on Zaid65 and what is with some of the real personal remarks I have seen on here and on twitter?

It is not my hate, this is their own frustration towards Afridi, which they all are showing towards me after once in a lifetime performance against minnow on subcontinent wicket.

You can dislike Zaid65 but why 'hate'? Cricket is only a game and a time pass for me. Far too many bills for me to pay for me to hate someone who dislikes a player.

Honestly I don't care about their hate ( this clearly showing their own personal life issues) because I firmly believe that I am still right to criticize their selfish and minnow basher.

Lets now move onto Afridi's performance yesterday. I did not see it but have seen the scorecard. Credit where credit is due - he played an absolute blinder.

No question about it, but we all know how often we would see this kind of performance and what he have been doing for past 15 years.

This is the first time I remember Afridi really take the game by the scruff of the neck for a long long time. This super hero performance is rare but long may it continue.

Super hero

I am still not an Afridi fan but hope he continues to play well. He is still likely to let us down more often then not.

On the back of this performance I am happy for him to keep his place in the side and wish him well. I certainly won't be obsessing as I have watched cricket far too long and have not forgotten his past failures and shenanigans. Pakistan team is what it is all about and not one player

.

Waq,

Your reply is so sensible amd mature, honestly I feeel like I am reading in a wrong thread

Thanks for putting PG-17 words

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Bouncer Zaid, when did you stop playing cricket? You should have continued on playing beecause after 350+ international game, even you would have turned in a performance like this and had tens of teen age fans and not tens of teen age haters

Hahahaha, good one

[Desi_Joker]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Good to see you posting my friend So far, this performance came against depleted SL team, on top of that this is still SL team ( not Australia, SA, India or England), on top of that it was in UAE ( not in outside the subcontinent region where his performance is not a hidden secredt), on top of that, this performance was not a performance in the semi final of the world cup, it was just a usless match and useless series I am wondering if Afridi would have given this performance against some top quality team in the major cricketing event ( apart from Tamaha cricket), what would be the reaction of all these fans

Against Australia, South Africa, India or England?

Outside the subcontinent... like maybe in England?

Semi-final of a world cup?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/wt202009...ch/356015.html

[USIND]

Zaid,you didn't give up yet. You're teasing so many posters at the same time.

Good work,this thread is fun.

[anakwalajinn]

Salaam awaam.

Why you taking PakPassion so seriously?
I thought this was a fun forum?

[Desi_Joker]

Originally Posted by anakwalajinn Salaam awaam. Why you taking PakPassion so seriously? I thought this was a fun forum?

Salaam pehelwaan.

We know it's just a fun forum

And we're just having a bit of fun with the guy who got the pwnage of a lifetime by

[Fireworks11]

ShehryarK choke slammed this thread to bits. Take a bow, what an entrance.

[SAF]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Good to see you posting my friend So far, this performance came against depleted SL team, on top of that this is still SL team ( not Australia, SA, India or England), on top of that it was in UAE ( not in outside the subcontinent region where his performance is not a hidden secredt), on top of that, this performance was not a performance in the semi final of the world cup, it was just a usless match and useless series I am wondering if Afridi would have given this performance against some top quality team in the major cricketing event ( apart from Tamaha cricket), what would be the reaction of all these fans

Read the op. I think you might have forgotten what u wrote:

When will Afridi win the game when the team is in crisis? This is a serious question to most of the Afridi fans, when will so called super star win the match for the team when team is in crisis? I am one of those cricket fans, who dont get excited to see player getting man of the match by taking one main batsmen wicket and two tail enders wickets, or when the opponent has scored fewer runs and he would come and score quick 30-40 runs in less pressure situation and take the man of the match award. If somebody is carrying the tag of superstar all rounder, winning the matches when team is in deep crises is the right way to prove the worth of his name. If you dont know what I am talking, go watch Hussy, Bevans, Inzi, Miandad, Laxman, .. Today's match and match at Mohali against India was the perfect opportunity for Mr. Me Me Me ( Afridi) to justify his so called superstar status, but one good thing, he might disappoint his die hard fans but wont disappoint me at all When was the last time Mr. Me Me Me won the game for the team when the team was in deep crisis? __________________ You don't know and you don't know that you don't know.

U asked: when will Afridi win a game when team is in crisis. Afridi answered.

[kkmix]

Originally Posted by Waq Why is everybody 'hating' on Zaid65 and what is with some of the real personal remarks I have seen on here and on twitter? You can dislike Zaid65 but why 'hate'? Cricket is only a game and a time pass for me. Far too many bills for me to pay for me to hate someone who dislikes a player.

Weren't you also always hating on Afridi, and dismissed his 'fans' as joke and childish? ... Well I can see why you'd feel sorry for your mate, Zaid65.

Originally Posted by Waq I am still not an Afridi fan but hope he continues to play well. He is still likely to let us down more often then not.

Yeah? because he is so inconsistent eh? Please go check his record in last year or so.

Originally Posted by Waq On the back of this performance I am happy for him to keep his place in the side and wish him well. I certainly won't be obsessing as I have watched cricket far too long and have not forgotten his past failures and shenanigans.

You won't be obsessing based on his performances in the past? in the past? are you living in the past? ... If you were living in the present, you would be obsessing over him, trust me.

Originally Posted by Waq Pakistan team is what it is all about and not one player.

No one is denying that ... But what you must admit that it was a 'one man show' yesterday, and there was only one player.

[kkmix]

Originally Posted by ShehryarK Not this again. On the plus side, debating with you gives one a certain sense of deja-vu... but the sheer mind-numbing ennui of reading the same reheated clichés masquerading as cricket arguments gets somewhat tiresome in my advancing years... so I'll keep this brief. Firstly, Afridi already played a "decent innings" two innings ago. Secondly, this innings was not decent. It was anything but! Had Freddie The Flintoff or Kevi The Bok done this for the UN Team, or some over-sized cuddly panda accomplished this for our Friendly Neighbours, their respective media, the gliterati of the cricketing pundotracy and the fawning millions would have been hailing it as an all-time great ODI innings. Because it is just Pakistan, and just in Sharjah, the whole world goes 'meh'. However, at least Pakistanis shouldn't understate it. To say it was a 'decent innings' is as useful as asserting Michaelangelo was a 'roof-painter'. --------- Returning to your broader point... Afridi's scores this series: 29 from 14 balls, run-out; batting at #8, coming in at 164/6: Second-Higest Scorer for Pak. 15 from 15 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 193/5 75 from 65 balls, batting at #7, coming in at 71/5: Highest Scorer for Pak. By any reckoning, for a #7 or #8, and using your yard-stick of 'decency' as our measure: That's one 'half decent' contribution One 'more than decent' contribution, And one match-winning, series-defining contribution that's completely, obscenely, off-the-charts indecent. Or in other words: 3 out of 3. Even if you ignore the middle innings [15 off 15], he's delivered with the bat in two out of three matches - whereas you were arguing his one 'decent' knock would be followed by '20 duds'. ----------- Afridi really should have one won three MOMs yesterday - the first for his batting, the second for his bowling, and the third for his sheer indomitable will, for acting as the team's talisman and lifting the side and the crowd through sheer force of personality. This third one shouldn't be understated. We had no business even contesting that game when the Lanakans were 155/3. Afridi's wicket of Sanga lifted the team and made them believe the impossible could be possible. Of course, such moments of magic, when the impossible suddenly looks possible, when the players, the bowlers, the fielders, the crowd, are not new for Pak; Wasim and Waqar did that countless times, on this very ground. ------------ Anyway. Let's agree to disagree on the above, and agree wholeheartedly on the following:

Brilliant post as always from you, nice to see you back.

[Free Hit]

zaid lottay main paani pa'a kar, wuzu kar kay, hamaray saath aa jao.

[talha3]

Message to everyone except zaid:

Why are you continuously flogging a dead horse?

Cricket and especially Pakistan cricket is a topic where everyone has their own opinion and their own logical reasons behind those opinions. That is what this forum is all about.

But in this case, it is just a matter of one person holding a clearly extreme and stubborn view. This can mean:
1. He's a troll.
2. He's not normal.
3. He's so against Afridi that anything said on an internet forum will not convince him otherwise.

Whether it's any of those reasons, it's useless wasting your time on convincing him to hold Afridi in a positive view.

[Afridirocks]

Originally Posted by Waq Why is everybody 'hating' on Zaid65 and what is with some of the real personal remarks I have seen on here and on twitter? You can dislike Zaid65 but why 'hate'? Cricket is only a game and a time pass for me. Far too many bills for me to pay for me to hate someone who dislikes a player. Lets now move onto Afridi's performance yesterday. I did not see it but have seen the scorecard. Credit where credit is due - he played an absolute blinder. This is the first time I remember Afridi really take the game by the scruff of the neck for a long long time. This super hero performance is rare but long may it continue. I am still not an Afridi fan but hope he continues to play well. He is still likely to let us down more often then not. On the back of this performance I am happy for him to keep his place in the side and wish him well. I certainly won't be obsessing as I have watched cricket far too long and have not forgotten his past failures and shenanigans. Pakistan team is what it is all about and not one player.

it might be a time pass for you but not for us, i consisder cricket as my passion and i am sure same goes with most of em, when pakistan wins all of us are happy, when they lose all of us are sad, its not 11 players who win the game or lose the game, its the whole country and supporters win the game or lose the game, this is what you call passion for the sport, atleast for me

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Free Hit zaid lottay main paani pa'a kar, wuzu kar kay, hamaray saath aa jao.

Yeh Qalanderi app kou aur aap key friends kou mubarak hou, I am too mature and smart for this non sense and jahalat.

[USIND]

Zaid,looks like your signature is meant for Afridi fans.

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Yeh Qalanderi app kou aur aap key friends kou mubarak hou, I am too mature and smart for this non sense and jahalat.

Khamosh :@

[>>FaHaD<<]

Originally Posted by Waq He is still likely to let us down more often then not.

I would disagree. You can only say that on the premise that you consider him and look up to him as a batsman.

He comes between positions 5 and 7. What sort of a batsman would show up on that position? He is a bowler and going by the same theory of Credit where Due he has not failed us. THe only inconsistency he has shown off late is in not taking any wickets.

He may be a chance pay dance batsman but as a bowler he is probably doing far better than anyone else in our current line up.

[Waq]

Originally Posted by >>FaHaD<< I would disagree. You can only say that on the premise that you consider him and look up to him as a batsman. He comes between positions 5 and 7. What sort of a batsman would show up on that position? He is a bowler and going by the same theory of Credit where Due he has not failed us. THe only inconsistency he has shown off late is in not taking any wickets. He may be a chance pay dance batsman but as a bowler he is probably doing far better than anyone else in our current line up.

The point you make is some what defeatist and is what makes me dislike Afridi and get annoyed by Afrid boppers.


Afridi is a lower order batsman when it suits Afridi boppers yet when he performs then threads crop up saying he should be an opening batsman or a test cricketer!

The truth of the matter is that Afridi has always had the potential to be a sensational bastman, one of the best infact. I have become anti Afrifdi because he has failed to fulfil this potential and has lacked the mental toughness.

Afridi's bowling is a positive but why is the batting so inconsistent. I do not buy that he is a 5 - 7 batsman based on potential but on attitude, he would be a tailender.

I will continue to give him credit for his last performance but he has massively underachieved mainly because he is unable to control his shot selection and keep a cool head.

[Free Hit]

Originally Posted by Waq The point you make is some what defeatist and is what makes me dislike Afridi and get annoyed by Afrid boppers. Afridi is a lower order batsman when it suits Afridi boppers yet when he performs then threads crop up saying he should be an opening batsman or a test cricketer! The truth of the matter is that Afridi has always had the potential to be a sensational bastman, one of the best infact. I have become anti Afrifdi because he has failed to fulfil this potential and has lacked the mental toughness. Afridi's bowling is a positive but why is the batting so inconsistent. I do not buy that he is a 5 - 7 batsman based on potential but on attitude, he would be a tailender. I will continue to give him credit for his last performance but he has massively underachieved mainly because he is unable to control his shot selection and keep a cool head.

he couldve been another imran, kallis, hadlee or whatever, but come, play his boring cricket and then perish. lala ishere to entertain. and he does.

never will you see a legend like him again in your life time.

who cares about tests! i do not buy your logical views on lala.

[DM123]

Originally Posted by talha.raja Message to everyone except zaid: Why are you continuously flogging a dead horse? Cricket and especially Pakistan cricket is a topic where everyone has their own opinion and their own logical reasons behind those opinions. That is what this forum is all about. But in this case, it is just a matter of one person holding a clearly extreme and stubborn view. This can mean: 1. He's a troll. 2. He's not normal. 3. He's so against Afridi that anything said on an internet forum will not convince him otherwise. Whether it's any of those reasons, it's useless wasting your time on convincing him to hold Afridi in a positive view.

Exactly!

But you see, any public forum cannot be a tool for spreading hate or illogical talk about any particular person or institution.


To all other PPers except Zaid -

Unless and until we ignore Zaid's thread, he will go on publishing these threads to irritate us. In a way, we are giving importance to him.

So guys, let's ignore this thread or any illogical posts by zaid or anyone else.


Bashing is understood, but this post has proved that zaid can bash a player even without a reason or logic. If SL has become a minnow just because Afridi played well, god knows what kind of reasons we will see later.

[Waq]

Originally Posted by Free Hit he couldve been another imran, kallis, hadlee or whatever, but come, play his boring cricket and then perish. lala ishere to entertain. and he does. never will you see a legend like him again in your life time. who cares about tests! i do not buy your logical views on lala.

Your post all depends on how you view your cricket. Is entertainment more important than results? Should we bother watching the game if there is no fun and risk free cricket being played?

Your point about entertainment is flawed. In cricket there is a time to hit out and there is a time to knuckle down. As patronising as I sound, life is very much similar and I understand due to most of you being so young in age that you are 'gung ho' in your approach.

Afridi can still entertain without going for ugly slogs down the ground and getting caught. Although I did not see his last innings, it is my understanding that he played himself in and still entertained the crowd too.

It is much better to win consistently and tone it down a touch rather than going all out and losing more often than not.

The truth be told - Afridi is more talented then most bastman so why does he have to be so risky? Yes occasionally the situation may require you to do so but not all the time. This is why I have formed my judgment of him after seeing all of his career. Some of you arguing with me were probably not even born in 1996!If a

If Tendulkar, Sehwag, Trescothick, Flintoff, KP etc etc went all out every game then they may also get an 45 ball hundred and have high strike rates. The reason why they do not go all cavalier is because they understand that the risk and reward is simply not worth it for a long game of cricket. Cricket is never going to be a sprint even T20 cricket, where there are still 120 balls to play.

Again - give him credit for his last innings but he needs consistency. Why can he not play himself in like he did then and what he occasionally started to do in 2009.

[>>FaHaD<<]

Originally Posted by Waq The point you make is some what defeatist and is what makes me dislike Afridi and get annoyed by Afrid boppers. Afridi is a lower order batsman when it suits Afridi boppers yet when he performs then threads crop up saying he should be an opening batsman or a test cricketer! The truth of the matter is that Afridi has always had the potential to be a sensational bastman, one of the best infact. I have become anti Afrifdi because he has failed to fulfil this potential and has lacked the mental toughness. Afridi's bowling is a positive but why is the batting so inconsistent. I do not buy that he is a 5 - 7 batsman based on potential but on attitude, he would be a tailender. I will continue to give him credit for his last performance but he has massively underachieved mainly because he is unable to control his shot selection and keep a cool head.

Guilty as charged. I admit that I too at times may have argued that he should be promoted up the order in a fit of excitement or in the flow of another argument.

He HAS the potential to be a great batsman but his attitude does not allow him to. Does that obliviate the fact that he is a GOOD PLAYER? NO! and that is the point of my argument. I dont think he is a great all rounder. I dont think he is a good batsman. But he is a good player to have solely on the premise he bowls brilliantly and is a very good fielder. infact he is a necessity to have in the team!

If that is hard to digest then maybe being an Afridi Booper is a good thing!

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by dm123 exactly! But you see, any public forum cannot be a tool for spreading hate or illogical talk about any particular person or institution. to all other ppers except zaid - unless and until we ignore zaid's thread, he will go on publishing these threads to irritate us. in a way, we are giving importance to him. :p so guys, let's ignore this thread or any illogical posts by zaid or anyone else. bashing is understood, but this post has proved that zaid can bash a player even without a reason or logic. If sl has become a minnow just because afridi played well, god knows what kind of reasons we will see later.

potw

[chuck]

Zaid is only here to provoke Afridi fans and he gets what he wants - everytime.

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by chuck Zaid is only here to provoke Afridi fans and he gets what he wants - everytime.

This shows the level of intelligence to all Afridi fans to fall into my trap or I am genius, who knows how to provoke them so easily?

[PakPosheeda]

Originally Posted by zaid65 This shows the level of intelligence to all Afridi fans to fall into my trap or I am genius, who knows how to provoke them so easily?

More of an attention seeker, even if its negative attention.

[USMAN KHAN]

maan gaye yaar you really are the real BOOM BOOM yes you have proved you are the real deal as a batsman with a cool head finally .In the last 2years no doubt has been 1 of Pakistans top bowlers in ODIs and T20.But has been very poor with the bat for many years with a batting average of 23 in ODIs with so many chances given he never showed his true maturity as sensible batsman.I never doubted ability as batsman.Afridis biggest fault has always been his childish errors playing silly shots in tense situations and getting out cheaply is what would get all Pak fans angry about him.In the 4th ODI 74 runs he really showed great temperamant,technique, and patience at the crease by picking up singles it was just brilliant, fantastic and no doubt his best knock underpressure. has finally grown up.But sadly he has wasted 17 valuable years of his batting talent in which he could of achieved so much as a genuine batsman.Thats why i have always said if used more of his brains he could of been 1 of the greatest batsman in the world.

[SAF]

If Afridi plays tomorrow, then Inshallah, Zaid will get his third pwng. Zaid, you better start praying this doesnt happen

[Looney]

Afridi magic tomorrow

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by SAF If Afridi plays tomorrow, then Inshallah, Zaid will get his third pwng. Zaid, you better start praying this doesnt happen

Yes, I am already feeling scared due to his bravo performance against mighty Sri Lanka at UAE wicket.

[nav_ali]

Originally Posted by zaid65 Yes, I am already feeling scared due to his bravo performance against mighty Sri Lanka at UAE wicket.

Why did you make the thread at this time then? Why not make it Before a series Vs a different team at a different venue? But instead you made it during this series Vs the mighty sri lanka at UAE wicket and a few days later...

[zaid65]

One performance against depleted Sri Lanka on UAE wicket, all of a sudden Afridi is savior of Pakistan cricket

[nav_ali]

Failed to answer my question though... I wish i could see the real face behind all those little smilies

[SAF]

Originally Posted by nav_ali Why did you make the thread at this time then? Why not make it Before a series Vs a different team at a different venue? But instead you made it during this series Vs the mighty sri lanka at UAE wicket and a few days later...

Zaid, I would like you to answer this and stop running away this time

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by zaid65 One performance against depleted Sri Lanka on UAE wicket, all of a sudden Afridi is savior of Pakistan cricket

That depleted Sirilanka is ranked higher than us in both the formats...

[Looney]

[amirfanforlife]

I wasn't able to contribute to this thread at the time, so I'll do it now ...























IN YOUR FACE, ZAID!!!

[nav_ali]

Originally Posted by SAF Zaid, I would like you to answer this and stop running away this time

Run, duck cover!!!! He cant respond. Even if he tries putting a brave face on its obvious he has been hurt

[Bouncer]

Zaid, I think you are going to be humbled once again...are you ready? ..Pak needs 51 from 5 overs..they need afridi to win it.....all set for a master stroke of mister Me-Me-Me and his mini-me's fans on PP.

Not even your prayers will save you now ...."Russell Vali Smaily"