Sehwag v/s Anwar in the Odis

[boomboomcheema]

Who will you choose to bat in your team for the Odis ? Anwar was probably among the Top 3 Odi Batsmen of his era ( 90s ) while Sehwag has also done reasonably well under the shadow of Sachin tendulkar , precisely now by achieving the Highest Odi Score he makes a strong case for being the Best Odi Opener ever .

My choice in this comparison would be Anwar who played in the era of better bowlers , balanced pitches and rules with more fielding restrictions . Above everything else Anwar was consistent and a reliable Batsman of the team unlike Sehwag who shines once in a while with knock of 175 against Bangladesh and 219 against West Indies but does very little of substance between his big knocks , more like a 110 , 3 , 14 , 5 , 11 , 0 , 18 , 23 , 47 , 3 , 10 , 100 type player .

[hamzamunir]

this thread wouldn't have been made if sehwag hadn't made 219.

[Love Pakistan]

Anwar anyday!

For obvious reasons tbh!

[Ashraful_Rox]

Sehwag is better in all formats honestly.

[kkmix]

C'mon don't insult Anwar bhai.

It should be Farhat vs Sehwag.

[Zamee]

Whats up with these comparision threads ?? What is the point ??

[Afridi_Fan]

Goodness me, those stupid comparison threads.

Will any Indian say Anwar, doubt that.

Will any Pakistani say Sehwag, not most probably.

What the hell is the reason to create such useless threads?

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Ashraful_Rox Sehwag is better in all formats honestly.

Coming from a fan of who??

[Itachi]

With the current indian batting set up, sehwag. Who can forget sehwags contribution in '11 wc sf? His 30 odd runs are even lethal.

But if it was india in 90s, i will pick anwar.

[hafeezrocks]

Anwar all the way . Sehwag is a FTB , fluke player more like the types of Imran Nazir rather than a complete Batsman like Anwar.

[Afridi_Fan]

Next up Arun Varun (Or whatever his name is) Vs Shoaib Akhtar.

[hafeezrocks]

Originally Posted by Itachi With the current indian batting set up, sehwag. Who can forget sehwags contribution in '11 wc sf? His 30 odd runs are even lethal. But if it was india in 90s, i will pick anwar.

Yeah and his duck in the finals too . Any Batsman who throws his bat at everything is going to have a lucky day where he can score big , nothing significant in that .

[Cricfan4eva]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan Goodness me, those stupid comparison threads. Will any Indian say Anwar, doubt that. Will any Pakistani say Sehwag, not most probably. What the hell is the reason to create such useless threads?

I thought you'll pick Afridi.

[sawal]

Both are diff type of players and played in diff era.

I think Saeed hasnt done enough justice to his talent, he was one of the best batsman of 90s but unfortunately like many other Pakistani players didnt utilize his talent to the maxim.

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by hafeezrocks Yeah and his duck in the finals too . Any Batsman who throws his bat at everything is going to have a lucky day where he can score big , nothing significant in that .

that's why i mentioned current indian batting set up.

You don't need to be a complete batsman to perform. A role is given to you by the team management. If you can fullfill the role, you have done your job.

Sehwag role isto smash and demoralise the opposition which makes the perfect platform for the coming batsman. No one expects him to make a century or stay till 50th job. His primary job is to set the opposition defensive, which he does in a perfect manner. Anything he adds to the score after that is a bonus.

[sawal]

Originally Posted by hafeezrocks Yeah and his duck in the finals too . Any Batsman who throws his bat at everything is going to have a lucky day where he can score big , nothing significant in that .

Lol so only finals count

Look at his average man both in odis n test

[sawal]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan Next up Arun Varun (Or whatever his name is) Vs Shoaib Akhtar.

Now thats silly

Sehwag has achieved more than Anwar.

Period.

[velu]

Teams with weak batting lineup doesn't deserve a players like Sehwag ex:- Gayle for WI
Pak need a stable opener who is consistent and still can score at decent rate.

But India can afford to have another player like Sehwag but Pak cant.

[ash 68]

why all Indians are now supporting Sehwag?

talk about fickle

you only have to go back few months when he looked like a baby -you couldnt drop him fast enough

one big innings vs mighty windies and all is forgiven?

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by ash 68 why all Indians are now supporting Sehwag? talk about fickle you only have to go back few months when he looked like a baby -you couldnt drop him fast enough one big innings vs mighty windies and all is forgiven?

show me one thread where we said sehwag should be drop? Only One thread would be enough.

[Cricfan4eva]

Originally Posted by Itachi show me one thread where we said sehwag should be drop? Only One thread would be enough.

Lol you've been here long enough and yet you bother replying to these posts?

Trolls will always bring up the England series whenever our team/batsmen achieve something monumental.

[talha3]

Agree with some of the views here about Sehwag in a strong batting lineup and Anwar otherwise.

[sawal]

Originally Posted by ash 68 why all Indians are now supporting Sehwag? talk about fickle you only have to go back few months when he looked like a baby -you couldnt drop him fast enough one big innings vs mighty windies and all is forgiven?

Fans have every right to criticise and love their stars. Most of subcontinent fans are hardcore fans, they either love their stars madly after one or two big performances or hate him more than an enemy after few failures.

The fact is that sehwag is a worldclass batsman and mostly he delivers and he is a match winner in any format against any attack on any ground.

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva Lol you've been here long enough and yet you bother replying to these posts? Trolls will always bring up the England series whenever our team/batsmen achieve something monumental.

dude.... Its fun when they run away from replying again.

[ahamedirshad123]

Read my signature..

[TheHK16]

both struggle outside sc

[cricketpassion]

Anwar anyday anytime

[velu]

Originally Posted by ash 68 why all Indians are now supporting Sehwag? talk about fickle you only have to go back few months when he looked like a baby -you couldnt drop him fast enough one big innings vs mighty windies and all is forgiven?

why dont you go back another three months and recollect what happened in Mohali

scored less than 40 and stayed there for some 30 mins ..
but he completely made the bowler of the tournament so far a redundant entity

[velu]

ash 68 is one of the worst trolls here after me

[umerz]

Originally Posted by hamzamunir this thread wouldn't have been made if sehwag hadn't made 219.

I agree...Saeed Anwar by a long margin in ODIS

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by umerz I agree...Saeed Anwar by a long margin in ODIS

but anwar didn't have the temperament and determination to cross the 200 even against pathetic indian bowling....

[JibranAnsari]

Saeed anwar was miles ahead in ODIs.

[akheR]

In ODIs, Saeed Anwar; I think there's a generally consensus that Viru under-archieved in ODIs, anyway... otherwise, if the question was more general, would take the man who scores a Test 300 in one day.

[mate1]

KUmble vs Qadir, who would you pick?
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Imran vs Kapil, who would you pick?
Akmal vs More, who would you drop?
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lame threads of comaprison. Just because Sehwag made 219, it takes nothing away from an all-time great opener that Anwar was and will remain. His hitting was pure class, was beautiful to watch a polished diamond, rubbery wrists, than crude batsmen of today

[Blitz]

Anwar has a better record...........and he did it all the bloody 90s.


Do you Indians have any clue on the difference in levels of bowling skills? Ambrose, Walsh, McGrath, Murali, Warne, Gough, Donald, Pollock, Ntini among many many others.


Compare that to the crap that is bowling nowadays.


Sehwag is playing on the flattest pitches in history, with 18/19 highest scores coming in the last few years, and he still doesn't have a great average...



Please, don't insult one of the great legends of the game

[ash 68]

Originally Posted by velu why dont you go back another three months and recollect what happened in Mohali scored less than 40 and stayed there for some 30 mins .. but he completely made the bowler of the tournament so far a redundant entity

I know but why did Indian fans slag him off soo badly

that is my point

fickle

[JibranAnsari]

Originally Posted by velu why dont you go back another three months and recollect what happened in Mohali scored less than 40 and stayed there for some 30 mins .. but he completely made the bowler of the tournament so far a redundant entity

Velu , this is kind of ignorant comment from you. Gul is a rythm bowler and he does not bowl well all the time. I would not give credit to sehwag for gul's line and length problem. He was not bowling well that day , remember one skidder from wahab got sehwag. India has the best batting lineup in the world and I wonder that was india's lowest total in the worldcup batting first?

[dinakar]

Originally Posted by Blitz Anwar has a better record...........and he did it all the bloody 90s. Do you Indians have any clue on the difference in levels of bowling skills? Ambrose, Walsh, McGrath, Murali, Warne, Gough, Donald, Pollock, Ntini among many many others. Compare that to the crap that is bowling nowadays. Sehwag is playing on the flattest pitches in history, with 18/19 highest scores coming in the last few years, and he still doesn't have a great average... Please, don't insult one of the great legends of the game

Anwar was not as great as you make, neither Sehwag. Yes, Anwar played in the era of those bowlers, but a substantial amount of his runs came against India and Srlanka and in Sharjah and sub-continent. he too had the habit of throwing it away after a good start.

[Paradox]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan Next up Arun Varun

Arun Varun dead

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by velu Teams with weak batting lineup doesn't deserve a players like Sehwag ex:- Gayle for WI Pak need a stable opener who is consistent and still can score at decent rate. But India can afford to have another player like Sehwag but Pak cant.

Well india can afford anything only if they are playing in India

[Phool]

Anwar could have achieved a lot more than he did.

[velu]

Originally Posted by Zamee Well india can afford anything only if they are playing in India

even in Eng out batting did really well in ODIs
but our trundlers screwed us big time

anyway lets see how pak will do vs England

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by velu why dont you go back another three months and recollect what happened in Mohali scored less than 40 and stayed there for some 30 mins .. but he completely made the bowler of the tournament so far a redundant entity

Flat track like these made Niall O'Brien famous!!

[kerala porotta]

Anwar was just awesome during the late 90's,along with sachin they were the best in the world.Very pleasing for the eyes,I would have him over sehwag most of the times.

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Itachi but anwar didn't have the temperament and determination to cross the 200 even against pathetic indian bowling....

Atleast one of our batsman has made 194 against u !!
Name any indian batsmen (giants, gods, bigshots, rockstars) who even came close to it against our bowling??

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by velu even in Eng out batting did really well in ODIs but our trundlers screwed us big time anyway lets see how pak will do vs England

LOL cant even win against a side who doesnt give a crap about Odis and is ranked 6th atm
This shows how poor ur team is outside india

[dinakar]

Originally Posted by Zamee Atleast one of our batsman has made 194 against u !! Name any indian batsmen (giants, gods, bigshots, rockstars) who even came close to it against our bowling??

If you want to give credit Anwar's 194, then you need to acknowledge our bowlers were great which one do you want?

[Blitz]

Originally Posted by dinakar Anwar was not as great as you make, neither Sehwag. Yes, Anwar played in the era of those bowlers, but a substantial amount of his runs came against India and Srlanka and in Sharjah and sub-continent. he too had the habit of throwing it away after a good start.

I see what you did there.

You read my post, and realised that Sehwag had no reason to be compared with Anwar.



So you spew a lot of crap about unrelated variables. Wasn't OP asking who is better?

Did your post in any way reflect that query?

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by dinakar If you want to give credit Anwar's 194, then you need to acknowledge our bowlers were great which one do you want?

Yeah i know how depressed u are cause of ur bowling attack... Anyways conditions and bowlers were still tougher than this westindian toothless attack ;)

[velu]

Originally Posted by Zamee LOL cant even win against a side who doesnt give a crap about Odis and is ranked 6th atm This shows how poor ur team is outside india

probably u r right
we never got a chance to face mighty Bangla , Zims and Windies

oh wait.. what happened in tests there , pak whitewashed Windies

PS:-
Even we dont give any crap about tests, esp when we play in england.

[velu]

BKV Prasad A Kuruvilla A Kumble SB Joshi RR Singh SR Tendulkar

All the above bowlers have something in common ... guess ??





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These are the guys who bowled when Anwar thrashed and made 194 .

[velu]

Originally Posted by Zamee Atleast one of our batsman has made 194 against u !! Name any indian batsmen (giants, gods, bigshots, rockstars) who even came close to it against our bowling??

okies..
sehwag has a 300 against might bowling attack in their own den , but how many did it to our bowlers ??

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by Zamee Atleast one of our batsman has made 194 against u !! Name any indian batsmen (giants, gods, bigshots, rockstars) who even came close to it against our bowling??

if you haven't realised it yet, we always admit pakistan has superior bowling attack. Hence, no batsman could have made 200 against pakistan. So what's your point?

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by velu probably u r right we never got a chance to face mighty Bangla , Zims and Windies oh wait.. what happened in tests there , pak whitewashed Windies

Yeah u were busy playing home series against Sirilanka everytime playing absolutely on roads
and u played zimbos last year and as far as i remember u lost 3 matches there
Lets not go there Westindians have beaten u on ur home without gayle I guess pressure was too much so u made a proper highway in order to seal the series.
Stop applying negetive tactics to this great game !!

[dinakar]

Originally Posted by Blitz I see what you did there. You read my post, and realised that Sehwag had no reason to be compared with Anwar. So you spew a lot of crap about unrelated variables. Wasn't OP asking who is better? Did your post in any way reflect that query?

There was no unrelated variables in my post, Anwar too bullied mediocre attacks on flat pitches, and so Sehwag. There weren't that many great performance from Anwar against those bowlers you mentioned. It is fair comparison in terms of records and personally I view Anwar has got more flair.

Heck, Jayasurya and Gilly were mighty ahead of both in ODIs! (purely personal view!)

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Itachi if you haven't realised it yet, we always admit pakistan has superior bowling attack. Hence, no batsman could have made 200 against pakistan. So what's your point?

And we have always admitted Indians have a strong batting lineup but not legendary for sure

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by velu okies.. sehwag has a 300 against might bowling attack in their own den , but how many did it to our bowlers ??

dude, he's a wanna be N_H.

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by Zamee And we have always admitted Indians have a strong batting lineup but not legendary for sure

so what was your point in the 1st hand? If it hadn't any, then its just a troll.... And not a good one.

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by velu okies.. sehwag has a 300 against might bowling attack in their own den , but how many did it to our bowlers ??

lol he was dropped 5 times in that match

[kerala porotta]

Anwar made 194 agreed. But how many runs of them did he make with Afridi running for him.

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Itachi dude, he's a wanna be N_H.

Yeah NH has owned u people many times so its good to be a follower

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Itachi so what was your point in the 1st hand? If it hadn't any, then its just a troll.... And not a good one.

Point ??
Point is that Sehwag is a flat track bully, only scores at home.
You cant compare him to a legend like Anwar.

[velu]

Originally Posted by Zamee lol he was dropped 5 times in that match

and anwar was dropped 5 or 6 times in that match
and he had a runner too

[velu]

Originally Posted by Zamee Point ?? Point is that Sehwag is a flat track bully, only scores at home. You cant compare him to a legend like Anwar.

yeah.. cant comapre..
anwar has got bradmanseque average everywhere other than home

22 in aus , 23 in NZ , 26 in sa ( all ODIs )

[velu]

Originally Posted by Zamee Yeah u were busy playing home series against Sirilanka everytime playing absolutely on roads and u played zimbos last year and as far as i remember u lost 3 matches there Lets not go there Westindians have beaten u on ur home without gayle I guess pressure was too much so u made a proper highway in order to seal the series. Stop applying negetive tactics to this great game !!

so u r agreeing ur vicoty over SL doesn't have any value .
what -ve tactics r u talkin ?? pak phasst bowlers bowling slower than vinay kumar ??
nice trolling broo

[kerala porotta]

and he was much younger in age,and stil had afridi running for him,whereas sachin sehwag are in their late and mid thirtys,din't need anyone running for them.

[AlizeeFan]

Originally Posted by velu yeah.. cant comapre.. anwar has got bradmanseque average everywhere other than home 22 in aus , 23 in NZ , 26 in sa ( all ODIs )

That's what he did against better bowlers.

[Cricfan4eva]

Originally Posted by velu All the above bowlers have something in common ... guess ?? . . . These are the guys who bowled when Anwar thrashed and made 194 .

When Anwar made 194, pitch though in India was one of the toughest pitches ever made in history of cricket + those bowlers were the best the world had ever seen, all this for only that day.

Anwar, the true legend!

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by Zamee Point ?? Point is that Sehwag is a flat track bully, only scores at home. You cant compare him to a legend like Anwar.

Let me remind you what you said....

Atleast one of our batsman has made 194 against u !! Name any indian batsmen (giants, gods, bigshots, rockstars) who even came close to it against our bowling??

How it shows that sehwag flat track bully? or which words in that post questioned that sehwag scores only at home?

Basically what you said here is, no indian batsman perfomed well against pakistan where as saeed anwar has made 194.

Now this is totally different from the point which you mentioned in the last post.

You yourself got lost while replying....

[kerala porotta]

i guess he did the vanishing act on us

[velu]

Originally Posted by JibranAnsari Velu , this is kind of ignorant comment from you. Gul is a rythm bowler and he does not bowl well all the time. I would not give credit to sehwag for gul's line and length problem. He was not bowling well that day , remember one skidder from wahab got sehwag. India has the best batting lineup in the world and I wonder that was india's lowest total in the worldcup batting first?

my bad .. some trolls pushed me to troll mood

[imshally81]

Fun Thread

[AlizeeFan]

Sehwag averages 35.66 with SR of 105. Anwar averages 39 with SR of 80. SR of 80 was good in 90s \, but I guess almost all teams had players with such SR. How many batsman have SR of 100+ with average of 30+ even today? Even though more runs are scored these days, not many players have such SR with that avg.

Those calling Sehwag a home track bully

Sehwag
Home : 36
Away : 36
Neutral : 34

He has been consistent in this case.

Anwar
Home : 47
Away : 29
Neutral : 42

[Saurav]

Originally Posted by AlizeeFan Sehwag averages 35.66 with SR of 105. Anwar averages 39 with SR of 80. SR of 80 was good in 90s \, but I guess almost all teams had players with such SR. How many batsman have SR of 100+ with average of 30+ even today? Even though more runs are scored these days, not many players have such SR with that avg. Those calling Sehwag a home track bully Sehwag Home : 36 Away : 36 Neutral : 34 He has been consistent in this case. Anwar Home : 47 Away : 29 Neutral : 42

seals it

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by JibranAnsari Velu , this is kind of ignorant comment from you. Gul is a rythm bowler and he does not bowl well all the time. I would not give credit to sehwag for gul's line and length problem. He was not bowling well that day , remember one skidder from wahab got sehwag. India has the best batting lineup in the world and I wonder that was india's lowest total in the worldcup batting first?

i disagree it a little bit. What factor can stop a rhythm bowler? The most common will be a psychological block. Something must be done to break his rythm. And gul isn't a kind of bowler who would lost rhythm pretty easily.

Earlier in the innings, sehwag hit him for 4s. Which broke his rhythm because instead of attacking, he had to concentrate on stopping on leaking runs. Had sehwag was out in the 1st over that day, gul would have been lethal.

[AlizeeFan]

2 centuries is a series in probably one of the toughest conditions Indian team has faced in last 20 years. Both teams were struggling to score 100 runs in an innings during that series. 200 was crossed only thrice.

FTB.

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva I thought you'll pick Afridi.

you still think?

[velu]

refer this post ( old data )

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...5&postcount=22

Player               Ave     SR      50 over score
==========================================================
Virender Sehwag      34.64  103.27   310/9 (50 ov)
Adam Gilchrist       35.89   96.94   291/8 (50 ov)
Viv Richards         47.00   90.20   271/6 (50 ov)
MS Dhoni             50.28   88.34   265/5 (50 ov)
Yuvraj Singh         37.06   87.94   264/7 (50 ov)
Michael Hussey       52.32   87.93   264/5 (50 ov)
Saeed Anwar          39.21   80.67   242/6 (50 ov)
Sachin Tendulkar     45.12   86.26   259/6 (50 ov)
Saeed Anwar          39.21   80.67   242/6 (50 ov)
Ricky Ponting        42.75   80.62   242/6 (50 ov)

[ddss]

Sehwag started playing when Anwar finished.

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by velu so u r agreeing ur vicoty over SL doesn't have any value . what -ve tactics r u talkin ?? pak phasst bowlers bowling slower than vinay kumar ?? nice trolling broo

Whatever!! We arent the so called number 2 team of the world who cannot perform outside there comfort zone
You call that trolling?? Take a look at ur posts first mate
And yeah about the tactics! U know them well dont u ?? Short boundaries and absolute roads ! Thats why ur players chicken out when they see a bouncy track :Hayden: