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27th April 2012, 20:49
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27th April 2012, 20:56
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27th April 2012, 20:57
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Loadsa respect.
Never knew some of thus stuff was possible in s Muslim country.
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27th April 2012, 21:20
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27th April 2012, 23:17
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Mehrab Anti Radiation Surface to Air Missile ... Range 75 km .... It targets any radio emission source ... Usually such missile can be fired after fielding a target decoy UAV in enemy zone so that hostile Radars get active and missile is released at that time ... US in 1991 used that technique against Iraq and iraqi AD fell into trap giving out their locations and allowing anti radiation Missiles to be fired upon them ...
The missile is capable of detecting the source and location of interference and changes its trajectory accordingly if H-CMs is there ..  Test fired from a Missile attack Vessel in Persian Gulf    Test footage of missile can be found on youtube ... Or ask me for it ! Last edited by Qelic; 27th April 2012 at 23:21.
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28th April 2012, 01:54
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my perception about tehran has changed, wow, such a nice and unique architecture and natural beauty, didnt know its so beautiful
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28th April 2012, 22:10
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My very Non Iranian Elder Step Brother Used to be obsessed with Miss Mehtab Keramaty in his youth lol .... One of the only few things he liked abt Iran ( his ethnicity has some superiority complex issues ) he kept her pics , never missed a show or a movie , had more pics of her than of any family member ... However he is married now and Miss Mehtab is also in her early 40s ...
  
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28th April 2012, 22:24
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Two questions : how are the "Iranic" populations of Pakistan (namely the Pashtuns and the Baloch) perceived by the "average" Persian ? Is there a sense of belonging to a same group of peoples ?
Also, is that true that imâm Khomeini has ethnic roots from today's Kashmir ? I read it a lot, especially by the critics of the regime (who just want to say that imâm Khomeini wasn't a "true" Persian ; I've remarked that to be nationalist in Iran, you have to love a bit of Zoroastrianism and hate Islam.) Also, never bought the Western hype of a "3rd world-looking" Iran, took an early interest in the country, parallel to my interest in Sufism, as I believe that this region has produced Islam's greatest spiritual masters... I actually have idealized Isfahan a lot because of different readings, and would love to visit one day.
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28th April 2012, 23:40
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Sayyid Khomeni's grand father Sayyid Ahmed (aka ahmed al hindi) moved from Kashmir to Najaf for studies, and upon his return to Iran settled in the town of Khomein. Last edited by 12cavalry; 28th April 2012 at 23:43.
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  and here is our guy ... Some ppl argue that his keen interest in infra structure development comes from his Educational background ... He is a civil Engineer and has a PhD in Transportation engineering ... After his term is over he is going back to his old Lecturership job .     More on thier way 
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29th April 2012, 23:55
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Iran Khodro Sarir
 Iran Khodro Soren  Kish Khodro Sinad Coupe  Iran Khodro Mercedes Benz E Class ( 50/50 Joint Project with Daimler Chrysler )  Mercedes Benz W211 ... Production Line in Shiraz     [IMG]  [/IMG]
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2nd May 2012, 16:42
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Given how much Imran Khan talks about turkey we might go with turkish model of "No Problems with the neighbors" PTI intends to move away from furnance oil plants and move towards imported coal which is much cheaper so that would probably help us move away from arabs a bit. and oh yeh we would love to get a hold of some of that electricity and gas you guys have got and we need. ^^ or atleast talk to you guys about it to put pressure on USA to give us the same civil nuclear deal they gave to India. 
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2nd May 2012, 17:10
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wow..I didnt realise Iran had doen so much..although i have read allot about it..Mashallah Allah keep you safe..
I hate to think what would happen if the yanks came to liberate your beautiful country.
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2nd May 2012, 17:16
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The Iranian infrastructure is very impressive, if I were a citizen of their state I wouldn't mind conceding a bit of democracy and liberty if it guaranteed high standards of public services, stability in the country and an educated, literate populace. And obviously the geography of Iran makes it absolutely necessary for Iran to remain stable and secure for peace in the region.
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2nd May 2012, 17:20
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Surely as a Pakistani that would be a good question?
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Is it the people themseleves or the leadership or the religion or something else.
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Militancy and intolerance towards minorities has also been problematic - in comparison Iran has the largest Jewish community in the Middle East. Iran is the eighteenth largest economy in the world by purchasing power parity. Iran is also an energy superpower with a ranking of second in the world in natural gas reserves and third in oil reserves. It is in a far better state than Pakistan mostly because Pakistan keeps shooting itself in the foot. We were the Asian tiger during the 1960s, countries like South Korea were following the 'Pakistan model' but now failed states like Somalia are following our model of corruption and instability.
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ANY country in the world that has succeeded is becasue its leaders promote thought.... Pakistan limits the use of AQL.
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What drove these institutions and governance etc? What drove people to do these things?
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I know this for a fact that it would be very difficult in Pakistan to be actually indicted or charged and then facing the punishment. When people realize that there is a way to get around or get away it encourages them to do things which people like you and me probably never going to think about. (I am hoping you are an honest and law abiding person 
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2nd May 2012, 18:59
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BTW, sorry Qelic, not trying to derail or spoil your beautiful thread. Please post more pictures.
I am wondering if Iran is doing something to attract more tourism in the country? Simply, by looking at these pictures it seems like anyone who likes to travel would be enjoying Iran and the sights it offer. In Pakistan or sub-continent there is a term known as "hill station". I am wondering if there are cities or towns in Iran which fall under that category?
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The more AQL is promoted... the more people try and use their AQL to be the best that they can be. The more you limit the use of AQL.. the more backwards speople become.
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Thread was going just pics and pics .... Good to see Incorporation of some text too ...
Guys , I was reading ur comments ... Let me contribute a little .... Pakistani problem in my eyes is a compound product of too many constituents some of which r related to its geo & demography but i would only mention the ones that Pakistani establishment itself is responsible for .... 1- Extremism .... Sectarian , Ethnic , Political ... That too supported by State itself to gain some short term advantages ... resulted in long term failures ... e.g. Hosting extremist elements backed by US/Arabs in Afghanistan in 1980s .... CIA defeated USSR , Arabs gained some ground in region ... what did Pakistan get ? Did those militants liberated Kashmir for Pakistan ? No ... they instead have killed tens of thousands of Innocent Pakistanis on sectarian and ideological grounds ... Not to mention that most of such groups are just mercenaries who can and have worked for foreign forces paying them better ... I can name ! ... Likes of Dr. Vali Nasr and Fareed Zakaria argue that Pakistan saw the US backed afghan jihad and Mujahideen forces as opportunity to build up strategic depth against its most lethal enemy on east ... India ! ... Plan may have minorly worked for Hawks in Pakistani GHQ but it has backfired on Pakistani state alot more in comparison .... IMO Decision of taking part in Afghan Jihad ripped Pakistan apart ... It corrupted the whole ideology on basis of which pakistan was formed , ideological clashes were fed in minds of pakistani population ... We can talk in details over that in separate topic ... 2- Feudal Culture & Mindset ... Pakistani feudals are far more strong then State itself and we all know that ... Same feudal class runs Political Houses , Same feudal class runs bureaucracy .... those who r not feudal by blood become feudals by choice once they grab power e.g. Military Generals ..... it all result into Dictatorships ... Conflicts ... weakened state ... Thats where Foriegn forces become stakeholders in ur house because u r in no position to make decisions ... Ur everything is decided by Foreign powers and they do it on basis of their own regional interests not urs ... 3- In-existent rule of Law .... There is no law in pakistan ... if it is , then its only in law books , there is no one there to implement it ... Pakistani state tolerates everything ... From Murderer and Rapist of a 15 year old girl in a village to Foreign funded Mercenaries to Public sector Corrupt Officer... There is always a way of escape in pakistan ... Nobody has ever been punished ... Judicial system is the weakest institution in pakistan . 4- Corruption ... Well u all know abt that ... Well that was my Sincere opinion ... Not necessarily everyone will agree with it ... Nobody is perfect , Iran has its faults too , USSR had , China has ... Quote:
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I have visited Iran twice and liked the country.
It is a very interesting place and if there is 1 country that can be called 2nd world, it is Iran, it's appearance neither rich nor poor, not flashy nor run down, everything seems to be "medium". However as it is not globalized in the western sense, it is interesting how insular and self dependent they are. Everything from electricity to cars to foodstuff is home-made or home grown so while quality may not be the best always , you feel you are in a proud country with its own stuff. And yes, the visibly active way Iranian women take part in work is is in stark contrast to many Arab countries. Last edited by LongHorn; 3rd May 2012 at 10:43.
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But didn't the Shah launched the "White Revolution" in the 70s in order to tackle the feudal problem ? In fact, some political scientists I read say that the "true" motives of the Shah was to indirectly reduce the influence of the clerics, as the landowners in Iran happened to be religious authorities (is that true ?), and the land reforms would obviously make them less influential amongst the civil society, and, therefore, this same civil society would be less critical of the self-invented dynasty of the Pehlavis.
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       Art Garden ... with models of some of Iran's Historic landmarks , U take a walk and from the Aryan , Achamanied , Parthia , Sassanid , Rahdidun , Turk dynasties to Present day Iran everything is covered in sequence ... Schools visit everyday.  
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I sometimes fail to understand the reason behind such effort but anyways .....
  Abgine Museum   Armini Sarkis Kalisa ( Church)    Tohid Tunnel .... One of the largest urban tunnel in Middle east and Central asia ... . it has broken the record of construction to be opened in less than 30 months ....   
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Major Ghalibaf ... The mayor ... is known as Marde Folad ... Man of Iron ... day or night , this guy doesnt go home ... keep on checking the progress of projects ... Here he is at construction site of Tohid tunnel ...
     Inauguration ....   Every Entry is named after a War hero  
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 I guess it depends on your social class, knew an Iranian girl who told me that Bollywood is quite popular there (she's from Shiraz) so perhaps they're not that racists to South Asians.
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Settling can be an issue as last decade govts became very aggressive towards foreign settlers irrespective of how educated they r and how much they earn , many good afghan , Iraqi families have been living in iran for a decade now but r still waiting for nationality ( excluding illegal immigrants from , aghanistan , pakistan , iraq ) ... If u have non iranian parents then famous article 977 deals with it , in simple words , govt will keep an eye on u esp if u r coming from west ... u can visit anytime though ... anywhere ... kish , tehran , esfahan , shiraz , ormiyeh , karaj , sanandaj etc ... as akher has said we r not racist .... Last edited by Qelic; 7th May 2012 at 03:47.
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I must say if the neighbors of Iran, particularly Iraq and Saudi Arabia have given them some support and not involved in the decade long war, i think the modern day Iran would be even more impressive. Iranians have the hallmark of a great nation and they can stand against any challange, something which is proved over the last 30 years.
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^ Thanks for your comments Sjaloha . You are right but I disagree with you a little ... The progress and development started after world became hostile towards us ... Sense of Iranic nationalism was dead during Pahlavi times , It came back hard when Iran-Arab war started ... It mingled up with Iranic Characterstic Shiaism and Revolutionary leftism ( yes revolt against shah was started by Secular Leftists like Jebhe Melli , Tudeh , and later Mujahedine Khalgh ) and resulted into what ideological mixture we have today ... whole nation got mobilized and ... we came out successful ! ... so while we still have too many unknown monumental and memorial graves of 10-15 years old human wave basij Fidaees ... the war and global hostility worked for Iran as a nation ... had not war happened the new establishment might have collapsed on its own upto late 80s maximum , they were crude , they had no plan , no state running mechanism to adapt , it was that war that saved them ... 90s was the darkest period for iranians , all of iran was destroyed , there was no infra structure , brain drain was going on , military was merely a band of extremists militias , there was no hope literally ... It all gave way to movements like Khordadis and reformists like khatami in power .... rebuilding was started in late 90s and early 00s .... Establishment now has the help of 91 % literate generation born during war times ... more sanctions world hits us with , more hard the Establishment responds by opening projects and becoming self sufficient , Regime has alot of money and alot of literate ppl , and they r very rational , probably the most cunning leadership in whole moslem world , they have seen other regimes fail , Baathist Iraq , DPRK etc So Iran has its own model with ingredients like Sectarianism , Nationalism , Socialism etc ... If I start posting pics of current Infra structure , Military , Industrial projects going on then it would take atleast 5 more pages of this thread to cover the projects that were started after recent sanctions were imposed .... IMO face of real iran will show up 8 years later from now on ... This rational regime also has been very successful on foreign front ... esp after US started the WOT though thats another debate ... All we need now is some jew or arab jet entering our airspace ... it will help us alot politically ...
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