Quite close to having Pak players back in IPL now i guess?

[freelance_cricketer]

Signs are good. Azhar Mahmood made it this time although he's an English now but for all of us he's a Pakistani brother.
Now we'll have Stallions in CLT20 as well.



Now would be cool if this continues. I am expecting Pak players in IPL XI !
Would be great for all parties and for Cricket.

[Bullet Drive]

I see Pakistan players IPL XI & then Pakistan playing a few series with India. Things looking bright in regards to Ind-Pak relations. Good news. Now I'd love a test series between Pakistan & India. A 5 match test series like the Ashes. We should have our own name for it though. Imran-Kapil series? Or something like that and that would be great but if there is a series we know what'll happen. It'll be an ODI series because of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Exciting times and I hope Sialkot win the CLT20, would be great!

[w8in_4_0402]

inshallah.

all pakistani would love to see their own players to be able to showcase their talent.

don't understand where who will play tho,

may be they need to change the rule for foreign players to 5 per team now,

[Asif321]

Good and Positive move by BCCI.. InshaAllah everything will become good and nice releationship will grow

[Ahson Afzal]

I hope our relationship can improve and while I have no problems with Pakistan playing the CLT20, I honestly don't want Pakistani players in the IPL

[wick94]

players in IPL? i am not too sure about that. What they get picked in the pool and then in the auction no one picks them?

[Namak_Halaal]

Only if today’s CLT20 news results in ODI and Tests between India and Pakistan would I consider it productive news.

[Sherlock]

Isn't the CLT20 is Australia this time, thus India can't object?

The whole Azhar Mahmood issue was only finalised because he had an British passport.

[pakistanigoneaussie]

i hope so , want i want most thought is a Pakistan vs India tests series, i don't care where i just want too see it

[Asim2Good]

I hope u guys meant in IPL VI lols

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by Sherlock Isn't the CLT20 is Australia this time, thus India can't object? The whole Azhar Mahmood issue was only finalised because he had an British passport.

CLT20 is India I think!!!

[hasanmehmoodkhan]

only if indians come in PPL

[Cricfan4eva]

Well looks like we might have a series sometime next year just hope BCCI don't do an overkill like last time holding a full tour every other year along with pointless tri-series'.

[bala977]

Oh yessss.... MISBAH for Deccan captain! Out out Sanga!

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by Sherlock Isn't the CLT20 is Australia this time, thus India can't object? The whole Azhar Mahmood issue was only finalised because he had an British passport.

1.BCCI owns 50% of CLT20.so it can object.

2.2010 CLT20 was held in SA and no Pak team played.

Unless all 3 boards agree no team will get into CLT20.So its a positive move by BCCI.

[cricketworm]

^ I understand with your sentiments, but do you really think Pak players wouldn't have been invited/allowed to play in IPL if Mumbai attack didn't happen? Do you really think we wouldn't have seen Pak-Ind bilateral series if Mumbai attack didn't happen?

No right.

As I predicted and said, once the public anger/political parties calm down, Indo-Pak cricket will return.

[lahoriyah1234]

Sanga is poor t20 captain, i think shaob sania miza shud be deccan capt. imagine nazir opening for them. wahoo wnt dat be a sight.

[cricketworm]

It will happen. Fingers Crossed. I think Pakistan will be back to normal completely by 2014. I am sure both countries do lots of business even at the moment, next big deal about Pakistan buying electricity from India is coming up! Let Pak be MullahFree country, peace is back. Lots of unemployed and uneducated people are dragged in to wrong stuff. Very small minority of people contaminating whole country has been headache for India as well. (in all countries in fact)

[IAJ]

Given that only 4 foreign players can play, I would like to know your opinion on which pakistani players can walk into the IPL sides?

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by IAJ Given that only 4 foreign players can play, I would like to know your opinion on which pakistani players can walk into the IPL sides?

ajmal akmaljnr gul and may be afridi.

[bala977]

Originally Posted by IAJ Given that only 4 foreign players can play, I would like to know your opinion on which pakistani players can walk into the IPL sides?

I have another post, but dont have the patience to search for it. Only 5 pak players are good

1) Misbah - Future captain of deccan chargers

2) Hafeez

3) Ajmal

4) Gul

5) That 7 foot bowler whose name I cant remember

Rest and all are waste including Akmals and Afreedi

[khurramjamil]

Originally Posted by bala977 I have another post, but dont have the patience to search for it. Only 5 pak players are good 1) Misbah - Future captain of deccan chargers 2) Hafeez 3) Ajmal 4) Gul 5) That 7 foot bowler whose name I cant remember Rest and all are waste including Akmals and Afreedi

the way you guys treat your IPL as some kind of an event of the event ... a mega event ... is hilarious ... so let me get this straight .. you mean that in Pakistan cricket ... among so many players .. only 7 are good enough to play your IPL? Including one bowler whose name you dont even know...?? You got to be kidding me!!!

Ahhh just read IAJ's comment ... please ignore my above comment

[bala977]

Originally Posted by khurramjamil the way you guys treat your IPL as some kind of an event of the event ... a mega event ... is hilarious ... so let me get this straight .. you mean that in Pakistan cricket ... among so many players .. only 7 are good enough to play your IPL? Including one bowler whose name you dont even know...?? You got to be kidding me!!!

Unfortunately yes ... only the players mentioned above are exceptional ... maybe add Razzak .. thats about it

[shan]

Originally Posted by bala977 Unfortunately yes ... only the players mentioned above are exceptional ... maybe add Razzak .. thats about it

Unfortunatly standard of IPL is poor, better then BPL for sure. Have watched few matches early on and the amount of trundlers bowling is amazing. 120 kph speed and flat wickets mean IPL is made for Imran Nazir and Shahzad.

[khurramjamil]

Originally Posted by bala977 Unfortunately yes ... only the players mentioned above are exceptional ... maybe add Razzak .. thats about it

The list of the decent players will be quite long taking in consideration the current standards of the IPL ...

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by shan Unfortunatly standard of IPL is poor, better then BPL for sure. Have watched few matches early on and the amount of trundlers bowling is amazing. 120 kph speed and flat wickets mean IPL is made for Imran Nazir and Shahzad.

Originally Posted by khurramjamil the way you guys treat your IPL as some kind of an event of the event ... a mega event ... is hilarious ... so let me get this straight .. you mean that in Pakistan cricket ... among so many players .. only 7 are good enough to play your IPL? Including one bowler whose name you dont even know...?? You got to be kidding me!!! Ahhh just read IAJ's comment ... please ignore my above comment

There are international players far better than most Pakistani players who play IPL.So how can they get in?

Go check the squads of each team and you will know.

4 foreigner per team.

delhi has KP Warner Morkel.Taylor and Jaya.No chance for any Pakistani.

Rcb has Gayle Dilshan Murali Nannes ABDV and Vettori no chance here also.

Kolkata has Kallis Mcullum Narine Shakib Morgan de Lange and Pattinson.

Mumbai has Levi Gibbs Malinga Pollard Johnson....

rest teams have a few places so at theax 6-7 Pakistanis will play.

This is IPL.Where most of the worlds internationals play so ot aint easy to get a place.

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by khurramjamil The list of the decent players will be quite long taking in consideration the current standards of the IPL ...

current standards of IPL is better than any other t 20 league considering 5-7 regular internationqls play in most teams.your saying otherwise doesnt make a difference.if allowed 6-7 Pakistani players will be picked up as there may be other international talents also like narine qnd levi this year.

[Bullet Drive]

Sohail Tanvir will get a call up to Rajashtan for sure. Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi, Abdul Razzaq, Malik, Misbah, Nazir, Hafeez, Sami, Ajmal, Gul & Arafat will get call ups.

[bala977]

Originally Posted by Bullet Drive Sohail Tanvir will get a call up to Rajashtan for sure. Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi, Abdul Razzaq, Malik, Misbah, Nazir, Hafeez, Sami, Ajmal, Gul & Arafat will get call ups.

Hate to burst te bubble but the gpfollowing have no chance - Afridi, K and U Akmal, Sami and Malik. Plenty of indian talent who can do what these can do ......... For example, Parthiv Patel can drop as many catches as Kami can ..

[Strike!]

Please no, We were just starting to get good in the rankings!

[frenchcut]

In my opinion, if players are auctioned for 2-3 year periods, i envisage another snub for pakistani players.

Let's say I am a franchise owner. I paid good money for butt/akhtar/tanvir etc etc. when i had a choice of any number of international players out there. They didn't play the next few IPLs. Will I take the risk of bidding for them again? Maybe one or two owners might, but why take a chance when I can buy a south african or aussie domestic cricketer who will guaranteed play for the next three years. Not to mention, doesn't have so many delicate factors hanging over his head that dictate whether he can play next month forget three years later (i.e political climate/NOCs/visa issues/general catty behaviour between both boards).

Just because the BCCI have said yes for CLT20, doesn't mean the owners will have them back with open arms in their ipl teams. they might pay ludicrous amounts for mediocre players, but they are not in the business of charity. once bitten twice shy, as we saw at the auction a few years ago (except most on this board believe it was a conspiracy...)

[Paradox]

Haven't most the CLT20's been in India so far? It'll be in India this year too, I believe.

[kungfu90]

Originally Posted by shan Unfortunatly standard of IPL is poor, better then BPL for sure. Have watched few matches early on and the amount of trundlers bowling is amazing. 120 kph speed and flat wickets mean IPL is made for Imran Nazir and Shahzad.

That's true and nobody is saying Pakistani national team bowlers aren't better than those trundlers but they'll have to compete with the regular internationals for their places.
Misbah, Umar akmal, Razzaq, Ajmal, Hafeez, Gul, Afridi etc. are good enough.

[Gotham Cronie]

Originally Posted by bala977 Hate to burst te bubble but the gpfollowing have no chance - Afridi, K and U Akmal, Sami and Malik. Plenty of indian talent who can do what these can do ......... For example, Parthiv Patel can drop as many catches as Kami can ..

No place in an IPL team for the leading wicket taker in international T20s?

[pakistanigoneaussie]

well people who i see as having a certain chance of getting picked

1. Afridi
2. Umar akmal
3. Malik
4. Gul
5. Professor
6. Ajmal

[bforme]

would be more demanded player from pak
some people saying wont be selled

[IndianWillow]

Originally Posted by khurramjamil the way you guys treat your IPL as some kind of an event of the event ... a mega event ... is hilarious ... so let me get this straight .. you mean that in Pakistan cricket ... among so many players .. only 7 are good enough to play your IPL? Including one bowler whose name you dont even know...?? You got to be kidding me!!! Ahhh just read IAJ's comment ... please ignore my above comment

Pak players are not competing with Indian players and trundlers. They will be competing with overseas players, the slots are few. Some big names there. A maximum of 4-5 Pak players can get into a playing XI.

[pun500]

i believe the following will probably get sold

afridi ... coz of his fan following and marketing potential
ajmal ... he will not only get picked but play in most matches
gul... for his death bowling

i doubt the rest i mean u akmal , razaq will be here n there probably get picked n benched

tanvir might have an outside chance

akhtar if wanting to play will surely get selected

k akmal highly doubt it...most teams have good wk batsmen ie ojha , dhoni , mcullum etc..an overseas slot on kami would be a waste

[Asif321]

Misbah should b picked

[pakistanigoneaussie]

i hope misbah gets picked, but if he does it will probably be because of his leadership more than anything else

[khurramjamil]

Originally Posted by IndianWillow Pak players are not competing with Indian players and trundlers. They will be competing with overseas players, the slots are few. Some big names there. A maximum of 4-5 Pak players can get into a playing XI.

I agree with you .. but my comment was not regarding the players getting a place in IPL .. it was regarding the player who have the talent to go to the IPL..

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by Gotham Cronie No place in an IPL team for the leading wicket taker in international T20s?

No chance for a contorversial motor mouth who will hardly do much againist the Indian batsmen,but i think he will get a contract,not a big one though.

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila No chance for a contorversial motor mouth who will hardly do much againist the Indian batsmen,but i think he will get a contract,not a big one though.

Moreover he is not someone who performs consistently. Once in 10 matches thing won't work in Ipl.

[kungfu90]

Come on ...Afridi will get picked. His batting in T20 can be more than Handy.
Though if a big frenchise picks him he may miss out on some games. But on turning tracks he'll surely make into every XI.

[Gotham Cronie]

Originally Posted by madaboutcricket Moreover he is not someone who performs consistently. Once in 10 matches thing won't work in Ipl.

Forget his batting, his bowling and fielding is enough to be in a T20 team.

[Runner Up]

Will CL T20 take place in India or Australia? and also have the dates been announced yet?

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by Gotham Cronie Forget his batting, his bowling and fielding is enough to be in a T20 team.

His leg spinners against Indians and other top class overseas players is nothing special.

[wasi90lk]

there is no doubt, pakistani players will enhance the quality of the IPL overall. if pakistani players join IPL, both IPL and pakistani players get benefits.

[velu]

IPL vi wont have any big auctions, so i guess evrything will be normal from IPL vii.

Honestly i dont think any pak batsmen will be picked other than u akmal.

IMO pak bowlers will be preferred more than other internationals because they are good in bowling in these conditions,

likes of tanvir , gul , rana , ajmal and wahab are good enough to get into any IPL teams ahead of any other foreign bowlers..

other than that razzaq , hafeez , kami and afridi will be automatic picks

[wasi90lk]

Originally Posted by velu IPL vi wont have any big auctions, so i guess evrything will be normal from IPL vii. Honestly i dont think any pak batsmen will be picked other than u akmal. IMO pak bowlers will be preferred more than other internationals because they are good in bowling in these conditions, likes of tanvir , gul , rana , ajmal and wahab are good enough to get into any IPL teams ahead of any other foreign bowlers.. other than that razzaq , hafeez , kami and afridi will be automatic picks

you do not need technically sound batsmen at IPL, you mostly need sloggers. there are plenty of great sloggers in pakistan, i am sure they are good enough to play at IPL.

imran nazir, afridi, shahzaib hasan - just to name a few. younis khan and misbah - they are good enough to get picked too.

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by wasi90lk you do not need technically sound batsmen at IPL, you mostly need sloggers. there are plenty of great sloggers in pakistan, i am sure they are good enough to play at IPL. imran nazir, afridi, shahzaib hasan - just to name a few. younis khan and misbah - they are good enough to get picked too.

You need good players in IPL as all teams have WC bowlers the likes of Steyn Malinga Morkel Tait Lee Hilfy etc...Shahzaib Hasan and company wont be getting all avg bowlers,a cpl may be.And have you seen the pitches in this years IPL?The grass the movement and the bounce.All the batsmen who are scoring runs are good batsmen like Gayle Rahane Gambhir Sehwag etc etc.The sloggers like Valthaty and company are not even finding a chance in the team.The only Pakistani batsmen getting a chance will be U Akmal and May be Misbah.Gul Ajmal will be in sure.Afridi also may be.Thats it.

And the competition for Pak players are not some unknown Indian domestic player but International stars and there are lots them better than Shahzaid or Nazir.

[wasi90lk]

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila You need good players in IPL as all teams have WC bowlers the likes of Steyn Malinga Morkel Tait Lee Hilfy etc...Shahzaib Hasan and company wont be getting all avg bowlers,a cpl may be.And have you seen the pitches in this years IPL?The grass the movement and the bounce.All the batsmen who are scoring runs are good batsmen like Gayle Rahane Gambhir Sehwag etc etc.The sloggers like Valthaty and company are not even finding a chance in the team.The only Pakistani batsmen getting a chance will be U Akmal and May be Misbah.Gul Ajmal will be in sure.Afridi also may be.Thats it. And the competition for Pak players are not some unknown Indian domestic player but International stars and there are lots them better than Shahzaid or Nazir.

imran nazir is a quality twenty20 player. after chris gayle, imran nazir is probably the most devastating twenty20 batsman.

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by wasi90lk imran nazir is a quality twenty20 player. after chris gayle, imran nazir is probably the most devastating twenty20 batsman.

No he is not.He is just a poor attack flat track bully.There are many many many better batsmen in T20 than him.

[shan]

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila No he is not.He is just a poor attack flat track bully.There are many many many better batsmen in T20 than him.

Thats why he is perfect for IPL. And if Azhar Mehmood can perform like this then imagine proper international Pakistani players.

[GujjarSher]

Afridi to me is one of the best T20 players in the world. Great bowler, gets wickets, doesn't leak runs. Great in the field. And has the ability to hit the ball as well as anyone else in the world. He is the ideal T20 player. Not to mention his huge marketing potential, fans all over the world adore him.

You have to be out of your mind to think no one in the IPL would pick him.

[GujjarSher]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/356015.html

Look at that match for example. Afridi gets 50 against top SA attack of Steyn, Morkel, Botha, Kallis. And he gets wickets of AB de Villiers and Gibbs while only giving up 16 runs.

You're telling me Afridi won't be selected in the IPL?! He made short work of some of the best T20 players in the IPL right now!

[The WagonWheel]

Absolutely looking forward to Pakistan's participation in IPL. And I will pray for Sialkot's victory in the CL T20 tournament so that Pakistan players become too tempting to ignore for the IPL franchises.

Have always maintained that if World cricket is a culinary dish, then Pakistan lately has become the spice/ghee in that dish. People can write pages about how these spices/ghee are harmful to general health and sometimes rightly so, but still it is exactly these ingredients that make the dish mouth-watering .... Without Pakistan, the entire thing may look extremely healthy but is woefully bland for my liking.

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by shan Thats why he is perfect for IPL. And if Azhar Mehmood can perform like this then imagine proper international Pakistani players.

so imran nazir is the proper international Pakistani player?

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by shan Thats why he is perfect for IPL. And if Azhar Mehmood can perform like this then imagine proper international Pakistani players.

Have you.watched.IPL?if not then watch it before you make comments.

Azhar Mahmood has played and performed in T20 competitions all over the world Nazir hasnt.Again he may get a contract but a permanent place in team he may not.The no.1 ranked batsman in t20s is sitting on the benches in IPL.

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by GujjarSher http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/356015.html Look at that match for example. Afridi gets 50 against top SA attack of Steyn, Morkel, Botha, Kallis. And he gets wickets of AB de Villiers and Gibbs while only giving up 16 runs. You're telling me Afridi won't be selected in the IPL?! He made short work of some of the best T20 players in the IPL right now!

He will be bowling againist Indian batsmen in IPL and againist them his bowling is poor.His batting is very inconsistent.so he may get a contract but not a regular place in the team.

[Gattuso]

Current Pak players are nothing special, except for Ajmal noone can expect to walk into the starting XI in any IPL team.
If Pak players are part of IPL next season and some of their heroes are benched like Tamim and Shakib..we'd start seeing the usual conspiracy threads about BCCI humiliating Pakistan .... so damned if we do, and damned if we don't !

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by Gattuso Current Pak players are nothing special, except for Ajmal noone can expect to walk into the starting XI in any IPL team. If Pak players are part of IPL next season and some of their heroes are benched like Tamim and Shakib..we'd start seeing the usual conspiracy threads about BCCI humiliating Pakistan .... so damned if we do, and damned if we don't !

i have bookmarked.this.

[freelance_cricketer]

^ Didn't Tamim Iqbal get any game this season?

[Third Umpire]

Apart from the financials, I don't see a reason why joining IPL would be good for Pakistani players,

There's nothing to suggest that participating in this tournament makes you a better T20 player. How many IPL stars are also international T20 stars?

[WithLoveFromCanada]

Originally Posted by Gattuso Current Pak players are nothing special, except for Ajmal noone can expect to walk into the starting XI in any IPL team. If Pak players are part of IPL next season and some of their heroes are benched like Tamim and Shakib..we'd start seeing the usual conspiracy threads about BCCI humiliating Pakistan .... so damned if we do, and damned if we don't !

err what?

To be honest I dont want Pakistani players to play in IPL

However just to answer the bolded part.

Afridi, Hafeez, Gul are few names who are probably more talented and hold more entertainment value than whole Indian team.

[Hamxa89]

I wonder why the Indian boys here are getting so hyper. What is all this talk about our players not being "anything special" ?

We're a higher ranked T20 side than India. We've got more bowlers in top 10 than India (India has none in top 15 btw ).. I guess top 3 T20 leading wicket takers are from Pakistan? ...

Even then if we consider our players as "nothing special" , I wonder what that makes those Indians playing in the IPL

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by WithLoveFromCanada err what? To be honest I dont want Pakistani players to play in IPL However just to answer the bolded part. Afridi, Hafeez, Gul are few names who are probably more talented and hold more entertainment value than whole Indian team.

when you dont have any stats for a backup, hide behind "your player is more talented than anyone" crap.

yeah afridi bites the ball better than any indian batsman. he can dance on the pitch better as well.

yeah hafeez is better than Shewag, Gambir, Rohit, Kohli, etc., whatelse?

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by Hamxa89 I wonder why the Indian boys here are getting so hyper. What is all this talk about our players not being "anything special" ? We're a higher ranked T20 side than India. We've got more bowlers in top 10 than India (India has none in top 15 btw ).. I guess top 3 T20 leading wicket takers are from Pakistan? ... Even then if we consider our players as "nothing special" , I wonder what that makes those Indians playing in the IPL

not sure why all the Pakistani fans comparing Pak players with Indian players. Pakistani players are going to compete with Non Indian players for the spot in the eleven. all in sudden ICC Ranking is the most important factor to judge the players.

[pakistanigoneaussie]

the top 3 international t20 wicket takers are

1. Afridi
2. Gul
3. Ajmal

im sure all will be picked and played for the most part

Mr Malik will be picked because of his wife and due to that fact he is a profoundly good India basher
Umar akmal also seems a certainty given players like miller get picked

Mohammad Hafeez has chance due to his allround utility

Abdul Razzaq maybe

and Misbah would if a team needs a captain

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by WithLoveFromCanada err what? To be honest I dont want Pakistani players to play in IPL However just to answer the bolded part. Afridi, Hafeez, Gul are few names who are probably more talented and hold more entertainment value than whole Indian team.

now that is a.seriously deluded.post.all the three players you mentioned are very avg players.

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila now that is a.seriously deluded.post.all the three players you mentioned are very avg players.

nothing new. he is known to come up with this kind of post.

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by Hamxa89 I wonder why the Indian boys here are getting so hyper. What is all this talk about our players not being "anything special" ? We're a higher ranked T20 side than India. We've got more bowlers in top 10 than India (India has none in top 15 btw ).. I guess top 3 T20 leading wicket takers are from Pakistan? ... Even then if we consider our players as "nothing special" , I wonder what that makes those Indians playing in the IPL

i guess.everone mentioned akmal jnr ajma and gul being certainities in IPL.Afridis bowling is nothing when.he bowls to Indians and his batting well well.also you are forgetting they wont be competing for places againist Indian domestic guys but international stars like gayle abdv warner malinga lee etc etc.so yes most of Pak players are not certain to have a starting spot.Already we have Bangla fans crying that Tamim and Shakib didnt get enough chances so we are just telling Pak fans the situation of foreign players in IPL.Next year many of you will be saying its a consjpracy to humilate Pak.players by buying them and not playing them.

regarding rankings....the best ranked t 20 batsman is sitting on benches and hasnt got a chance this season.

[shan]

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila Have you.watched.IPL?if not then watch it before you make comments. Azhar Mahmood has played and performed in T20 competitions all over the world Nazir hasnt.Again he may get a contract but a permanent place in team he may not.The no.1 ranked batsman in t20s is sitting on the benches in IPL.

Shahzad and Nazir outperformed Azhar in BPL when they played toghether. So if Azhar can get in IPL then must of Pakistani players can also. But because of Indian obsesion with chitti chamri average players from SA & Aus will also be picked over good players.

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by shan Shahzad and Nazir outperformed Azhar in BPL when they played toghether. So if Azhar can get in IPL then must of Pakistani players can also. But because of Indian obsesion with chitti chamri average players from SA & Aus will also be picked over good players.

comparing batsmen with an allrounder.

Azhar Mahmood is an experienced T20 player who has done reasonably well for the last few yrs or so. Now he is playing for the team which does not have many big overseas stars and one of their main stars is injured as well.

Check teams like Delhi, Calcutta, Chennai, Bangalore,etc., roster is packed with plenty of overseas stars.

[Hamxa89]

Originally Posted by madaboutcricket not sure why all the Pakistani fans comparing Pak players with Indian players. Pakistani players are going to compete with Non Indian players for the spot in the eleven. all in sudden ICC Ranking is the most important factor to judge the players.

The point was not the comparison with Indian players, but to show how idiotic the statement of " Pak players not being anything special " was. When we say that we've got the most talented T20 players or make any other such statement, you kids ask for "stats" and not just statements. When we throw in the ICC rankings, you cry about how suddenly they've become all important? ICC ranking merely state the stats So, next time decide how you're going to judge a player before commenting on him.

Originally Posted by cricketjoshila now that is a.seriously deluded.post.all the three players you mentioned are very avg players.

err, right! How about proving that with "stats" and not just "very average players crap" You guys are the ones obsessed about them after all

[proud_pakistani]

Pakistan has plenty of players who will do well in the IPL format. Especially the bowlers. Lets not forget Pakistani bowlers have got the most experience in this format due to playing in it in various Ramadan tournaments. The level might have been low, but the ideology remains the same. Guys like Gul, Ajmal, Afridi, Hafeez will always be important players if they do take part in IPL. Other notable names that could come in would be Razzaq,Abdul Rehman, Umar Akmal, Nasir Jamshed and Ahmed Shehzad.

[cricketjoshila]

Originally Posted by shan Shahzad and Nazir outperformed Azhar in BPL when they played toghether. So if Azhar can get in IPL then must of Pakistani players can also. But because of Indian obsesion with chitti chamri average players from SA & Aus will also be picked over good players.

comparing an all rounder with batsmen.i dont see many so called.chitti chamari players in playing xi.

just because younthink Pakistan has best players doesnt mean they do.I.have seen.shahzaib and even Nazir againist the likes of Morkel Steyn Lee Hilfy Tait etc they may be sitting ducks.and againist spinners their are plenty of domestic players to take care of that.SA and Aus players play fast bowlers better.

[shortbread]

It is pointless comparing Pakistani players to Indian ones in the IPL. The Indian players have the advantage of being Indian, which means in every team there is a slot for 7 local players to be included. Therefore average trundler, flat track stars, average spinners are easily picked and paid obscene amounts of money.

Pakistani players are competing against their international counterparts which is far more competitive for a limited number of places, 4 per team. The likes of Shazad and Nazir will be a lot better than most Indian players but they have to stand in line behind the likes of Gayle, AB, du Plessis, Malinga, jayawardene, Warner etc..etc...

Its a more tougher proposition but most Pakistani players know these conditions especially the slow pitches and playing average spin a lot better. If and when they are included in the IPL I belive it will be the younger crop who will do better than the big names like Afridi, Misbah, Hafeez etc...

[in_cutter]

I hope not.,

[velu]

I think indian players have lot of things to learn from pakistan players.


j/k