"Saeed Ajmal found out in this match" : Rameez Raja

[MenInG]

I find that such a stupid remark by Raja! Saeed Ajmal who has been our match winner in so many games has NOT been found out Mr. Raja!

The pitch is insipid and he is facing some excellent batting!

[Legend Killer]

Stupid comment as usual by Ramiz, this track is one of the flattest in the world so it's obvious that all the bowlers including Saeed Ajmal will struggle to take wickets on it

[Pete Rose]

Rameez is prone to hyperbole...
I am sure he meant to say something else...

[Zamee]

lol Rameez sucking up again ?

[freelance_cricketer]

He's not been found out. Just a flat deck and Lankans have always been good players of spin bowling. Can't judge him

[talha3]

He went on to mention the dead track and excellent batting so let's hear the full quote before jumping the gun.

I heard it live and he didn't mean in any way that Ajmal's weapons have been negated or that his mystery has been worked out. But it has to be noted that Sanga has played Ajmal better than any other batsman in the past year or two.

[Zeeraq]

Originally Posted by talha3 He went on to mention the dead track and excellent batting so let's hear the full quote before jumping the gun. I heard it live and he didn't mean in any way that Ajmal's weapons have been negated or that his mystery has been worked out. But it has to be noted that Sanga has played Ajmal better than any other batsman in the past year or two.

Sanga is the best player of spin right?

Besides Sanga record against us -esque

[MenInG]

Originally Posted by Pete Rose Rameez is prone to hyperbole... I am sure he meant to say something else...

haha - very likely but TenSports really need to invest in an English coach for their comms

[shakil]

Saeed Ajmal is no Shane Warne and even Shane Warne would have struggled on this pitch against the Lankans

[waqar goraya]

perhaps rameez is carried away by rehman's good performance in this inning..

[Blistering Barnacle]

Rameez can be very annoying sometimes. He occasionally pulls out ridiculous comments.

[MenInG]

Originally Posted by Blistering Barnacle Rameez can be very annoying sometimes. He occasionally pulls out ridiculous comments.

I am beginning to think that his English is weaker than we assume - think he knows these phrases such as "found out" etc but has no idea of the context or the suitability of usage of such terms!

This is where Veterans like Chishti stand head and shoulder above people like Rameez.

[Pete Rose]

If Ajmal has been found out...then in Rameez speak then Abdur Rehman has been a 'revelation' in this match

[speed]

it's high expectations people expect ajmal to get a 5- for every test match.

[shortbread]

Ajmal must have refused to be a guest on Rameez's lounge thing on tv, Rambo will have his revenge!!

[khalil1986]

As usual crap pours out of his mouth, have always despised his commentary.

[DHONI183]

Bad observation by Ramiz Raja there. Saeed Ajmal should be allowed to have an off game.

But then again, if pitch and the opposition can be used in his defence, why is the term 'flat track bully' is used then for batsmen?

[Blistering Barnacle]

Originally Posted by MenInG I am beginning to think that his English is weaker than we assume - think he knows these phrases such as "found out" etc but has no idea of the context or the suitability of usage of such terms!

Exactly....and he uses those terms he has no idea about so confidently.

[JibranAnsari]

An off game and here goes rambo..

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by JibranAnsari An off game and here goes rambo..

Not really even an off game if you take pitch into consideration.

[IAJ]

Rameez has no idea of what he is talking about, anyways found this interesting stat from cricinfo:

"Top work from Ammar Ashraf, who has dug up the stat that Saeed Ajmal's 34 overs is most bowled by a Pakistani in a Test without a maiden".

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by IAJ Rameez has no idea of what he is talking about, anyways found this interesting stat from cricinfo: "Top work from Ammar Ashraf, who has dug up the stat that Saeed Ajmal's 34 overs is most bowled by a Pakistani in a Test without a maiden".

That is indeed a very interesting stat. Too bad a top bowler like Ajmal had to have this honor. Oh well, in the end it doesnt mean much but interesting nonetheless.

[Osama_B]

he has had a poor series

surprising

[Abid Z]

Sanga and dilshan have worked him out. The rest are as clueless as the English

[leatherface58]

this was going to happen.if it hasn't it will in the future. besides i think ajmal is good enough to do well without the mystery element

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[saeedhk]

Sanga plays him extremely well

[Zaz]

Stupid comment by raja, a lot of the times he uses words and phrases for the sake of it and doesnt really know when to use them

[shakil]

Ajmal now averages almost the same as Rehman

[James]

Ajmal is not to blame. Just goes to show what a performance it was from Swann to take 16 wickets in two tests in Sri Lanka against this same lineup.

[Havoc]

Why's he is Pakistan's most front-line cricket expert/commentator anyway.

[cricketworm]

Originally Posted by talha3 He went on to mention the dead track and excellent batting so let's hear the full quote before jumping the gun. I heard it live and he didn't mean in any way that Ajmal's weapons have been negated or that his mystery has been worked out. But it has to be noted that Sanga has played Ajmal better than any other batsman in the past year or two.

THIS!

And on topic, I have said it somewhere, Off spinner usually struggle on flat pitches! Nothing surprising in that.

And again, problem with this forum is misunderstanding and then unnecessary loathing and criticizing follow!

[kamran_uk]

Raja was not making the statement but was asking a question to D Morrison. Just to make it clear

[dadvoc]

Ramiz has a knack for blowing things out of proportion, he doesn't know the art of expressing himself within limits. I am sure his intentions were to say something else, but he ended up with this stupid remark.

[truthseer]

Originally Posted by James Ajmal is not to blame. Just goes to show what a performance it was from Swann to take 16 wickets in two tests in Sri Lanka against this same lineup.

English hyperbole! The English were playing on spin friendly tracks to guarantee a result so that Sri Lankans would roll over England

[Amjid Javed]

Typical non-sense from Rameez! il be happy the day he stops commentating!

[James]

Originally Posted by truthseer English hyperbole! The English were playing on spin friendly tracks to guarantee a result so that Sri Lankans would roll over England

Yeah like in the second match when Sri Lanka needed to win already being 1-0 up.

Oh wait.

Swann bowled superbly to Sri Lanka's excellent batsmen in both matches. Sixteen wickets in two tests. Away. In Sri Lanka.

Just give credit where it is due for a fantastic performance that has recently been put into even finer perspective. Can't be that difficult.

[alberto]

I think we need to revert back to a 3 seam attack so Rehman will be the casualty for me. No team does well with a 2 spin attack outside the subcontinent and it is a strategy bound to fail if Pakistan decide to do it in South Africa , Aus, England etc

[truthseer]

Originally Posted by James Yeah like in the second match when Sri Lanka needed to win already being 1-0 up. Oh wait. Swann bowled superbly to Sri Lanka's excellent batsmen in both matches. Sixteen wickets in two tests. Away. In Sri Lanka. Just give credit where it is due for a fantastic performance that has recently been put into even finer perspective. Can't be that difficult.

I am not understating Swann's achievement, it is a great one but comparing it to this road is a travesty of justice

[Sherlock]

They played him well because of 2 things.

: The conditions just did not sort him

: The batsmen know he's the main man thus play him out and occasionally when set, launch into him.

He bowled well in the 1st innings without ever looking dangerous. The 2nd innings was a case of knowing the match was unlikely to get a result.

[JibranAnsari]

Rameez probably was right in saying that...

[Zamee]

He was half effective because of the part time keeper!! But still took 3 wickets...

[JibranAnsari]

Originally Posted by Sherlock They played him well because of 2 things. : The conditions just did not sort him : The batsmen know he's the main man thus play him out and occasionally when set, launch into him. He bowled well in the 1st innings without ever looking dangerous. The 2nd innings was a case of knowing the match was unlikely to get a result.

This series was his test against better players of spin and did not do well (to his standards) and definitely in the last two matches not threatening at all.

[James]

Request for a Swann smiley

[JibranAnsari]

Swann completely beat saeed ajmal against sri lanka.

[speed]

haha swann did not have to play at the ssc where average runs per wicket is the highest in the world 44 runs per wicket.

swann performance at galle = ajmal performance at galle check the stats.

[James]

Always excuses

[Bilal7]

Ajmal has been below his best in this whole tour, to be honest every Pakistani player has performed below par.

No one can doubt Ajmal's status as the best spinner in all forms of the game though.

[Zamee]

He still is the highest wicket taker in tests this year despite playing the least amount of matches.

[truthseer]

Originally Posted by James Always excuses

Always arrogance
Two word replies prove?

[pakistani pride]

Our friend Dhoni 183 always finds a way to promote FTB and put a pakistani performance in a bad day light...

Take a chill pill dude.

[James]

I love the Ajmal/Swann fan rivalry actually. Two of the few genuinely top-class bowlers and great personalities left in the game

[insaan]

IMO, Ajmal is the best spinner on show today. Swann comes second best. As for their personalities, both are entertaining in their own way. Met Swann recently at Abu Dhabi, and told him how much I like his sense of humour.

[Savak]

He has had one bad series after a while. So what? Its not like he has been smashed around or anything, just hasnt picked up the wickets that were expected of him.

[MenInG]

Originally Posted by kamran_uk Raja was not making the statement but was asking a question to D Morrison. Just to make it clear

Would you agree that even as a comment it was totally mindless? Its like me saying "Imran was a one trick pony - what do you think about that?"

[DHONI183]

Originally Posted by pakistani pride Our friend Dhoni 183 always finds a way to promote FTB and put a pakistani performance in a bad day light... Take a chill pill dude.

What is it with this obsession with me?! It has been more than four years; you seriously have got to learn to live with the fact that I will continue to post here, God willing. Get a life please, brother. The "chill pill" sentence is there as if my post was too strong to digest (for you).

Now let me examine few things for you.

Originally Posted by DHONI183 But then again, if pitch and the opposition can be used in his defence, why is the term 'flat track bully' is used then for batsmen?

Where is it hinted that I am excluding the Pakistan batsmen here? Quite a few Pakistani posters here label batsmen such as Mohammad Hafeez as flat track bullies. Perhaps I am defending him here too? Check this thread and search for terms such as "FTB", "flat track", "pitch" etc.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=156678

Strangely enough, you said the same thing about him in that thread!

Originally Posted by pakistani pride LOL, still we need 2 new test openers... these 2 will always be in trouble against quality teams on good wickets.

^ http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...6&postcount=24 ^

What is meant here by "good wickets"? You know that, don´t you?

Quite a few people over here consider Virender Sehwag a 'flat track bully', but you clearly "promote" him. Here´s an example.

Originally Posted by pakistani pride Seaming wicket, bouncy wicket or a flat track . . . doesnt matter Sehwag is a monster. He can hit any bowler. The best opener of his generation ! CASE CLOSED !

^ http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...3&postcount=56 ^

Clearly bitter views about Mohammad Hafeez there but yet you promoted Virender Sehwag! Please, get rid off these double standards. And yes, before you say that it was "an old post" etc. rubbish. Here´s another very fresh example from 2011.

Originally Posted by pakistani pride Why cant we just accept it... Scoring 200 plus in an ODI is a historic and great achievement no matter what kind of pitch you play on. Sehwag deserves this since he is the best opener in this era.

^ http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...&postcount=134 ^

There you go, you just do the same thing of which you accused me of.

Dear brother, why these double standards? Why do you "promote" one 'flat track bully' and not the other? Why are you putting a Pakistani´s performance in a bad light?

As for me, well, doesn´t even matter since I only promote 'flat track bullies' (in your opinion).

In future, please 'try' not to waste my time and argue over posts or points instead of my personality.

[khalil1986]

Pure ownage by Dhoni183

[Badsha]

What rivalry James?

Be honest who would you take, Ajmal or Swann?

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by Badsha What rivalry James? Be honest who would you take, Ajmal or Swann?

Any proud Englishman will stick with Swann, Swann is a very very good bowler. If the roles were reversed we would still stick with Ajmal period.

[DHONI183]

Originally Posted by Badsha What rivalry James? Be honest who would you take, Ajmal or Swann?

Saeed Ajmal - the Glenn McGrath of spin bowling (my view only).

[Badsha]

Originally Posted by khalil1986 Any proud Englishman will stick with Swann, Swann is a very very good bowler. If the roles were reversed we would still stick with Ajmal period.

It's not about being an Englishman.


I just want to know what he thinks as a cricket fan.


I would take Cook instead of Taufeeq, Prior for Adnan Akmal and James anderson for Mohammad Sami.

Does that make me any less of a proud Pakistani?

Swann is very good bowler indeed but I ask again.


If you were to select one which one would you select?

[James]

Khalil nailed it. Ajmal is that bit better but an Englishman will always pick Swann. For several years he's been one of the best players in the team that we follow and love. 'Bias' is given a stigma by some of the hypocrites on PP but not only are we all guilty of it, there's nothing wrong with it.

[Sherlock]

To even criticise Ajmal is pretty ignorant of people.

He'll most likely end up top of the wicket taken stakes at the end of this series along with Junaid

[DHONI183]

Another thing that could well have effected his performance 'slightly' is that a Sri Lankan commentator continuously calls him 'Side' Ajmal.

[crikket fan]

i cant understand the logic behind his criticizing...
he has been performing for years and this test series also he gave his heart out,specially on dead 5th day wicket of final day...
and remember him bowling the critical overs millions of time in 20-20 and 50 overs matches and coming out as hero...

a single player can not win match on his own everytime,so we should respect him and support him....

i am sure he will win T-20 world cup for pak this year....

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by Badsha It's not about being an Englishman. I just want to know what he thinks as a cricket fan. I would take Cook instead of Taufeeq, Prior for Adnan Akmal and James anderson for Mohammad Sami. Does that make me any less of a proud Pakistani? Swann is very good bowler indeed but I ask again. If you were to select one which one would you select?

The players you mentioned are a world apart though, surprised you didn't mention Gilchrist instead of Akmal. The gap between Ajmal and Swann is not that huge IMO.

[pakistani pride]

Sorry to derail the thread
@ Dhoni 183 yes i rate Sehwag i think he is a great opener, yes great !

what i dont understand and never will is a pakistani being such a die hard fan of the indian captain. i mean to even put his pic in you display.... disgusting.

Again you can think whatever you want or feel like but its just not done brother....

[Ironcat]

Even in his "found out" series, he averaged 29.93 with 5 wickets per match. Including the test at the graveyard (SSC).

[DHONI183]

Originally Posted by pakistani pride Sorry to derail the thread

You don´t need to be sorry as you had derailed the thread a long time back.

Originally Posted by pakistani pride @ Dhoni 183 yes i rate Sehwag i think he is a great opener, yes great !

Difference here is that I cannot remember considering MS Dhoni the best in any regard despite being his fan. Anyway, you can overlook this part since I "promote" 'flat track bullies' anyway.

Originally Posted by pakistani pride what i dont understand and never will is a pakistani being such a die hard fan of the indian captain. i mean to even put his pic in you display.... disgusting. Again you can think whatever you want or feel like but its just not done brother....

Don´t you ever feel embarrassed when you continuously comment about someone´s personal choice, personality etc. who is as harmless as anything or earth and takes no interesting in you or your posts?

What do you want, please tell me? You want me to be stoned to death or what? Why can´t you get rid off your obsession?

You think it is "disgusting", I respect your opinion and let things be there, but you somehow cannot digest my presence on PP! I think you really want to dig things deeper. I have no problem.

So, why is it "disgusting"? Is MS Dhoni a murderer, rapist, suicide-bomber, corrupt politician, match-fixer, blasphemer or what? From what I understand, he captains a cricket team of a country which is like any other country on earth. I do not want to make any allegations, but if I had England´s Alastair Cook´s picture on my avatar, would you have spent three years fighting with me over it?

Definition of "cricket":

1. Sports. An outdoor game played with bats, a ball, and wickets by two teams of 11 players each.

Get a good and nice life, brother. There is no use of this life if we are going to spend our life´s three-four years being obsessed with a poster on an Internet forum.

If all of it is not possible for you then please let me live in peace at least!

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by DHONI183 You don´t need to be sorry as you had derailed the thread a long time back. Difference here is that I cannot remember considering MS Dhoni the best in any regard despite being his fan. Anyway, you can overlook this part since I "promote" 'flat track bullies' anyway. Don´t you ever feel embarrassed when you continuously comment about someone´s personal choice, personality etc. who is as harmless as anything or earth and takes no interesting in you or your posts? What do you want, please tell me? You want me to be stoned to death or what? Why can´t you get rid off your obsession? You think it is "disgusting", I respect your opinion and let things be there, but you somehow cannot digest my presence on PP! I think you really want to dig things deeper. I have no problem. So, why is it "disgusting"? Is MS Dhoni a murderer, rapist, suicide-bomber, corrupt politician, match-fixer, blasphemer or what? From what I understand, he captains a cricket team of a country which is like any other country on earth. I do not want to make any allegations, but if I had England´s Alastair Cook´s picture on my avatar, would you have spent three years fighting with me over it? Definition of "cricket": 1. Sports. An outdoor game played with bats, a ball, and wickets by two teams of 11 players each. Get a good and nice life, brother. There is no use of this life if we are going to spend our life´s three-four years being obsessed with a poster on an Internet forum. If all of it is not possible for you then please let me live in peace at least!

Why give so many explanations mate just accept it that your an Indian

[DHONI183]

Originally Posted by Zamee Why give so many explanations mate just accept it that your an Indian

Oye chupp kar!

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by DHONI183 Oye chupp kar!

Acha

[insaan]

I have a friend (Indian) who keeps changing his wallpaper from Imran to Wasim to Inzi, including other cricketers as well. I never understood that as an Indian, and will let him know it is so disgusting, just not done.