The Barcelona thread

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by w4s1m786 but none is same class as Ronny d

very few are - but systematical changes would need to be made - with possible 2 upfront to cover the loss

[w4s1m786]

personally if Barca were to get rid of Ronny d it would take a season to recover i think, if it were down to me id getrid of Eto as he is replaceable

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

yea that would be the best damage limitation scenario - get £40m from the sale of Etoo - add that to the transfer fund, Barca would be major players in the summer - with £70m+ to spend

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker yea that would be the best damage limitation scenario - get £40m from the sale of Etoo - add that to the transfer fund, Barca would be major players in the summer - with £70m+ to spend

eto'o 40m?? nah i think around the 25-30m mark would be more realistic

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by hasbeen eto'o 40m?? nah i think around the 25-30m mark would be more realistic

all i can say is that barca turned down £30m for him last year, granted this year he may want to leave but even then barca would be crazy to sell him for less than £35m

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker all i can say is that barca turned down £30m for him last year, granted this year he may want to leave but even then barca would be crazy to sell him for less than £35m

last year, he was happy and scoring for fun. this year he has been one of the reasons barca are not playing as a team and hence his value will have dropped. another factor is the african nations cup. he will only play 7 out of the 9 months and teams will not pay over the odds for him

[Daoud]

Last year Eto'o still topped la Liga's goal scoring charts despite being away for the African Cup of nations. Not likely to play a huge part in his price if he moves on

[w4s1m786]

i dont see Chelsae going in for him as Drogba will be the African nations cup, and Jose has said that they wont be spending crazy money this summer, and whoelse has got that sort of money

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by w4s1m786 i dont see Chelsae going in for him as Drogba will be the African nations cup, and Jose has said that they wont be spending crazy money this summer, and whoelse has got that sort of money

united and liverpool. iv got a bad feeling liverpool will get one of the top three strikers in spain: torres,etoo or villa

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by w4s1m786 i dont see Chelsae going in for him as Drogba will be the African nations cup, and Jose has said that they wont be spending crazy money this summer, and whoelse has got that sort of money

AC Milan if they dont get ronnyd or shevchenko.

Also Lpool could swing a deal of cash+player (either alonso or sissoko). Arsenal could do something similar - a swap for henry.

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker AC Milan if they dont get ronnyd or shevchenko. Also Lpool could swing a deal of cash+player (either alonso or sissoko). Arsenal could do something similar - a swap for henry.

you can swap eto for silvestre,richardson and saha if you want.

[Daoud]

Originally Posted by hasbeen you can swap eto for silvestre,richardson and saha if you want.

What about Smith, Oshea and Brown?

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by Daoud What about Smith, Oshea and Brown?

eyy dont get greedy now, we have to share them out to real madrid, ac milan and bayern munich

[Medic]

Originally Posted by Daoud What about Smith, Oshea and Brown?

*looks for release clause in contract* lol

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Medic *looks for release clause in contract* lol

[Amir]

I think hasbeen is being a tad bit harsh. They are not my favourite players either and I have bashed Oshea but fact is....he is a decent bench player when our guys are resting and injured. Same with Wes Brown. The only one I want to get rid of is Saha and possibly give smith a season.

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by Amir I think hasbeen is being a tad bit harsh. They are not my favourite players either and I have bashed Oshea but fact is....he is a decent bench player when our guys are resting and injured. Same with Wes Brown. The only one I want to get rid of is Saha and possibly give smith a season.

brown always seems to play well and then mke a mistake or get caught out. he was at fault for todays goal as well.

richardson is just crap and should be sold.

o shea is a ok squad player to be fair

saha too injury prone

smith aint talented but just works hard

silvestre was decent 2 yrs ago but not anymore

fletcher is also an ok back up player.


some of these however should be sold and replaced with better players.

[w4s1m786]

i would love to have Saha at the lane if Berbatov was ever to leave, the guy is quality when fully fit and great asset with his pace

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by w4s1m786 i would love to have Saha at the lane if Berbatov was ever to leave, the guy is quality when fully fit and great asset with his pace

thats his only problem

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Ronaldinho has pledged his future to Barcelona.
"There is no chance that I will leave Barcelona," Ronaldinho told the Press on Thursday. "I have a contract here and I am only focused on my club," added the former Golden Ball winner, whose side leads La Liga alongside Real Madrid with four matches to go.

"I want to do my best here next year and am trying to prepare for next season as well as I can."

The Brazilian continued: "My brother is in Italy often because he represents many other players apart from me. He doesn't go to Milan to speak about my position."

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if true then

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

with berlusconi saying that he wants sheva as his first choice ahead of etoo and ronnyd - means ronnyd likely to stay, etoo probably will end up in the premiership but would love for him to stay!!

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker with berlusconi saying that he wants sheva as his first choice ahead of etoo and ronnyd - means ronnyd likely to stay, etoo probably will end up in the premiership but would love for him to stay!!

he might come to united. dont rule it out.

[Medic]

WIY how many years left in RonnyDs contract??

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Medic WIY how many years left in RonnyDs contract??

runs till 2011 - there was meant to be another contract in the pipeline but that hasnt materialised

[Medic]

Do you honestly think he'll stay that long?? Players usually come out with these knid of statements only to leave in this summer...

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Medic Do you honestly think he'll stay that long?? Players usually come out with these knid of statements only to leave in this summer...

well it looks like he will stay for next year - that will be sealed if milan buy sheva for a fair bit of cash. The new contract was supposed to be for "life". But negotiations have stalled

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

barca have also injected cash into roberto assis' club - in porto alegre - ronnyd's childhood side, have a link up with them - that was part of the deal - so barca are doing everything possible to keep ronnyd

[Medic]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker barca have also injected cash into roberto assis' club - in porto alegre - ronnyd's childhood side, have a link up with them - that was part of the deal - so barca are doing everything possible to keep ronnyd

their desperate!! Dont blame them for wanting to keep such a quality player.

Btw will any of your youngsters be making some 1st team actions??

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Medic their desperate!! Dont blame them for wanting to keep such a quality player. Btw will any of your youngsters be making some 1st team actions??

there was some talk that bojan krcic could feature in the run in! but he is definitely going out on loan next year - huge number of clubs chasing him.

Gio dos santos wont get a look in till next year. Others like suarez and j dos santos are considered too raw.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

real 1 nil up at recreativo at HT. Need sinama pongolle and co to do us a favour!! doesnt look likely

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

This is real madrid's title - 2-2 and then bobby carlos pops up in injury time with the winner with a couple of seconds left in the match. Talk about having luck on ur side - lost count the numver of times theyve stolen matches in injury time - u need some luck to win a title and boy are they getting some !!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

so close to slipping up at the awful recreativo - would have been great, now barca away at athletico in a must win situation

[Rob H]

Ronny D smashes the woodwork with a free kick. Puyol's shot is saved on the rebound.

[Rob H]

Unbelievable goal by Messi. A fantastic run, he passes it to Eto'o who lays it back into him and then tucks it into the corner. Barca at their best. 1-0

[Amir]

Originally Posted by Rob H Unbelievable goal by Messi. A fantastic run, he passes it to Eto'o who lays it back into him and then tucks it into the corner. Barca at their best. 1-0

Damn it, I was kinda hoping soem faction play and then Messi trying to score himself

[Rob H]

3-0 now and it's not even half time. Eto'o scambles it in after a counter attack. Barca storming away with it.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

VINTAGE BARCA - THE BEAST has awoken!!! oh yeah!!! this is what we've been waiting for all season, just as real m scrape a win against recreativo - barca destroying atletico who are our bogey side!!! VINTAGE - 2 beautiful goals!!!

REAL M watch out - they still have zaragoza to play away from home - title back on!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Almost the perfect half from barca - clinical,incisive footy - finishing has been better!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

i wonder what the realm players/staff are thinking - the mind games they directed towards barca are backfiring BIG time!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

what a difference it makes to actually have a defensive midfielder playing - fullbacks can roam forward, provides stability.

[Rob H]

4-0 now, Amazing goal by Barca with Ronny D finishing it off. Awful defending by Atletico.

[hasbeen]

brilliant result so far 4-0. comon barcaaa

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by hasbeen brilliant result so far 4-0. comon barcaaa

hasbeen bro have u seen the goals? - BRILLIANT!!!! barca at their best!!

[Rob H]

5-0 now. Another amazing individual goal by Messi. Cool lob over keeper under pressure. Atletico playing ****!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

cmmon rob hand credit where its due

[Amjid Javed]

6-0 now... barca have been sublime tonite!

[Rob H]

Iniesta makes it 6 now, another exhibition of awful defending by Atletico.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

This is how we need to finish the season - win the remaining matches - im confident real m will slip up - probs to zaragoza!! we need the title badly

[Daoud]

Well our toughest game is out of the way. Its really a matter of who blinks first now. Bloody Madrid though. They've become another Chelsea with the way hey score in the dying seconds of a game

[w4s1m786]

what was real's score ?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

3-2 - carlos scored in last few seconds to win the game for real m. They were 2-0 up and nearly blew it against lowly recreativo!! They still have zaragoza, depor, mallorca!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

now might be a good idea to get maxi lopez fired up - he is loan at mallorca from barca - would be sweet if he could damage real m!!

[Geordie Ahmed]

yes get in excellent result for us

going right to the way, hopefully Real M slip up

[HAFRIDI]

LMAO at all of you like great result for'US'

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by HAFRIDI LMAO at all of you like great result for'US'

coming from a utd fan -

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by HAFRIDI LMAO at all of you like great result for'US'

just cos the Glaziers are from the US, doesnt mean nobody else can you use the word US

[Medic]

WOW! What a show from Barca! 6-0 against against a team who were unbeaten at home this year.

Real Madrid saved again, this time by Carlos. I think Madrid will win it, sorry WIY...

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Medic WOW! What a show from Barca! 6-0 against against a team who were unbeaten at home this year. Real Madrid saved again, this time by Carlos. I think Madrid will win it, sorry WIY...

thats fair enough medic - as u can see b4 the barca match started i thought the same - madrid have won several games in last few seconds of matches. However they still have to play Zaragoza - away from home i believe - just need to remember Barca have shown interest in 3 zaragoza players - they have perfect stage to impress!!

After today i'm confident that the title will stay at the nou camp!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

another factor could be Bojan Krcic - he is hot property, available for loan - Barca have a whole host of clubs they can pick from - including depor, zaragoza, mallorca - who just happen to be real m opponents

also espanyol/getafe have shown interest and they have barca still to play

[Daoud]

So a bunch of teams hoping to do Barca a favour, and the team that does that may end up being the team that gets Bojan for a season.

Is niiiice

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Daoud So a bunch of teams hoping to do Barca a favour, and the team that does that may end up being the team that gets Bojan for a season. Is niiiice

exactly!! depor in particular desperately want Bojan!! - but hey barca may want something in return

[Medic]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker thats fair enough medic - as u can see b4 the barca match started i thought the same - madrid have won several games in last few seconds of matches. However they still have to play Zaragoza - away from home i believe - just need to remember Barca have shown interest in 3 zaragoza players - they have perfect stage to impress!! After today i'm confident that the title will stay at the nou camp!!

Yep. That'll be tough, but cant see Real sliping up. They've won their last 8/9 games (no matter late goals or not), so momentum is on their side. And most importantly their fate is in their own hands, something Barca cant say...

[HAFRIDI]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed just cos the Glaziers are from the US, doesnt mean nobody else can you use the word US

haha what a cheesy reply, not that i expected anything better of course

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by HAFRIDI haha what a cheesy reply, not that i expected anything better of course

make cheesy posts and you will get cheesy posts in reply

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Medic Yep. That'll be tough, but cant see Real sliping up. They've won their last 8/9 games (no matter late goals or not), so momentum is on their side. And most importantly their fate is in their own hands, something Barca cant say...

certainly true - but u must consider this

All the trials and tribulations faced in recent times - the infighting, uncertainty over futures etc. Then real madrid go top of table, sneak a winner at recreativo seconds before the barca players step onto the pitch against out bogey side away from home(been terrible away from home) - Then go on to deliver the performance of the season for them, thoroughly outplaying athletico!! i think that one match could have swayed things!!

[Daoud]

True. The fact that we managed to prevent Torres from scoring also says a lot. But not only preventing him from scoring but also scoring 6 goals away from home is mindblowing.

If someone told me that the result was going to be 6-0 I'd have honestly thought it would be in their favour, not ours. I actually did initially when I heard the score was 6-0 but then realised it was in our favour

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

couldnt agree more with u Daoud. The cleansheet was quite sweet in the face of el nino, maxi rodriguez, sergio aguerro!!

This would be the equivalent of someone like Chelsea going to white hart lane and winning 6-0!! actually probably harder than that as spurs dont have a great record against chelsea!!

[Medic]

Daoud & WIY did you see Maxi's challenge on Iniesta!! Not even a yellow card! That angered me alot, he could be seriously injured...

[w4s1m786]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker couldnt agree more with u Daoud. The cleansheet was quite sweet in the face of el nino, maxi rodriguez, sergio aguerro!! This would be the equivalent of someone like Chelsea going to white hart lane and winning 6-0!! actually probably harder than that as spurs dont have a great record against chelsea!!

i like the lil dig

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by w4s1m786 i like the lil dig

it was one of my more subtler digs


congrats on picking it up

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Medic Daoud & WIY did you see Maxi's challenge on Iniesta!! Not even a yellow card! That angered me alot, he could be seriously injured...

the refs in spain are substandard - that is being kind to them!!

[w4s1m786]

why, thank u

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by w4s1m786 why, thank u

no problem, credit where credit's due

[Medic]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker the refs in spain are substandard - that is being kind to them!!

Too true. I was watching the Real - Recreativo game, when Ramos body slamed Pongolle ( i think), I immediatly thought free kick and booking, but the ref just signalled him to get up.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Originally Posted by Medic Too true. I was watching the Real - Recreativo game, when Ramos body slamed Pongolle ( i think), I immediatly thought free kick and booking, but the ref just signalled him to get up.

that was pretty funny!! and then u get refs that are the complete opposite - allow no contact whatsoever!!

[w4s1m786]

well be fair to spurs we have sort broken our cob webs against Chelsea in away as we finally beat them and should of beaten them at the bridge but didnt,

[Medic]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker that was pretty funny!! and then u get refs that are the complete opposite - allow no contact whatsoever!!

at least the ref's in the prem are crap as a unit

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

that is true, i was thinking historically - recent times i.e. 5 years

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

This is the true Barcelona" declared Ronaldinho after last night's amazing 6-0 thumping of Atletico Madrid at the Vicente Calderon.

Atletico captain Fernando Torres admitted afterwards that "in the end it was like we were playing against a team of 20" and "every player deserves zero out of ten".

For his part, Ronaldinho fired a title broadside at rivals Real Madrid.

"This is the true Barcelona. This performance was a warning to everyone. We're now returning to our best, we're stronger," said the Brazilian. "This was the Barca of always, the one that knows how to play."

Barca captain Carles Puyol, however, had his own warning for his teammates.

"We must stay grounded," said the defender, "and not believe that this automatically makes us the best.

"We must be conscience that we have to keep working hard and fighting because if we fail again, then tonight's performance will mean nothing.

"The teams around us all did well, but this victory is significant, there's no doubting that."

Argie whiz Leo Messi also remarked: "This result strengthens us after a difficult period. We won by playing good football. We put everything into it."

[hasbeen]

has this performance come too late though??? if madrid win all their games it dont matter if barca win every game 5-0