Beijing Olympics : Hockey Thread

[OZGOD]

Here's a pic:

[OZGOD]

Match report from foxsports.com.au

THE Kookaburras continued their relentless march towards the Olympic men's hockey semi-finals with a 3-1 win over Pakistan tonight. Pakistan were a conspicuous step up in class from Australia's first two opponents - Canada and South Africa - and it was just the hitout Australia needed as they prepare to take on great rivals the Netherlands tomorrow. Australia were again served well by their department of youth with Eddie Ockenden showing exceptional touch to beat three players before setting up the final goal for Travis Brooks. Playing his 60th match for Australia despite being just 21, Ockenden has been one of Australia's Games standouts. His form is no surprise given he was voted best player at the last two Champions Trophy tournaments. It was Australia's third win in succession and if they can muster even a draw from their last two games against the Netherlands and Great Britain they should advance to the play-offs and be two matches away from retaining their status as Olympic champion. Australia were one-down early after fleet-footed Shakeel Abbasi stunned the tournament favourites with a brilliant strike from an acute angle which gave him a target range of barely two metres wide - and that space included goal-keeper Stephen Lambert. The sweet strike rocketed into Lambert and then deflected into the goal. Australia, as they inevitably do, struck back soon after when Grant Schubert beat the advancing goal-keeper for the equaliser. Australia took the lead early in the second half when a brilliant piece of improvisation from a penalty corner in which the ball was neatly shuffled around the square until it found Jamie Dwyer unmarked just two metres from goal. Australia has got used to out-running opponents in the second half - and again they drew away after the break. But the competitive Pakistanis matched them is most areas of the game on a night free of Beijing's infamous heat and humidity. Supporting is growing behind the Australian teams as they show impressive form. Both the Kooaburras and Hockeyroos are undefeated after three games each and seemingly semi-final bound. Two large groups of green and yellow clad fans gave rowdy support tonight as part of a near capacity crowd. Australia have conceded just two goals in the tournament and with captain Bevan George the centrepiece of a near impenetrable wall. http://www.foxsports.com.au/beijing_...014107,00.html

[OZGOD]

This match between us and the Oranje will be epic. Definitely going to get up early for that and glad it's on the weekend.

[pakistanbest]

still not giving up on Pakistan

seemed like they played very well, sadly i was unable to watch it here in Enlgand, but Insh'Allah we can do the unexpected and qualify at the expense of Holland

[bablu_khan]

o no please don't say that we can 't qualify.

i have watched both games and i definately see this team can win and is strong. i don't know how they lost but this team can still defeat holland i must say. it's also a matter of luck

Inshallah we would go through some how with some miricle

[12thMan]

Well I checked the scores after 2-3 days and it looks like Pakistan is out. So less stress for everyone now. It is between Aus-Hol-GB now in the group. suprisingly Holland is not doing that good but I read about some controversy when Holland team was selected (I don't know what) so that might explain their low scoring.

In the other group Spain and NZ are on top and Germany has to catch up

[OZGOD]

Well, we need this medal badly - now that Ian Thorpe is gone we automatically have 2 less golds.

[pakistanbest]

Originally Posted by 12thMan Well I checked the scores after 2-3 days and it looks like Pakistan is out. So less stress for everyone now. It is between Aus-Hol-GB now in the group. suprisingly Holland is not doing that good but I read about some controversy when Holland team was selected (I don't know what) so that might explain their low scoring. In the other group Spain and NZ are on top and Germany has to catch up

mathamatically they are not out

[DeSi_DoN]

I watched this match today, finally been successful in reaching USA proxies, lol.
Unlucky day for Pakistan Hockey, played well in the 1st Half though, but oh well we still do have a chance?
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[DeSi_DoN]

Originally Posted by iZeeshan Unbelievable! Pakistani player is dribbling the ball, Australian just comes and puts his stick in front of his foot! Is that allowed?

Absolutely invalid, I was shocked to see the bad referee decisions today?!
70% of the time, decisions went against Pakistan when it was their right, this seems like a proof that money is the only thing left nowadays in sports!

[OZGOD]

Geez, so we complain about referees even if it's not cricket lol.

[DeSi_DoN]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Geez, so we complain about referees even if it's not cricket lol.

Lol, I am afraid to say that the truth is what you have read, and you know it is true!

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by OZGOD Geez, so we complain about referees even if it's not cricket lol.

no.... only if it is Australia................... or sometimes Sri Lanka!

[iZeeshan]

Originally Posted by 12thMan Well I checked the scores after 2-3 days and it looks like Pakistan is out. So less stress for everyone now. It is between Aus-Hol-GB now in the group. suprisingly Holland is not doing that good but I read about some controversy when Holland team was selected (I don't know what) so that might explain their low scoring. In the other group Spain and NZ are on top and Germany has to catch up

Actually we're not. If we trash SAF, like 6-0 or 6-1, and then beat Holland by 1, we will be thru, provided that Australia beats Holland in a low scoring game.

Because if we beat Holland and SAF, and Holland loses to Australia, that gives each of us 3 wins in the group.

That way, it comes down to how many goals scored I believe.

[OZGOD]

This will be a huge game coming up between the Kookaburras and the Dutch.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by iZeeshan Actually we're not. If we trash SAF, like 6-0 or 6-1, and then beat Holland by 1, we will be thru, provided that Australia beats Holland in a low scoring game. Because if we beat Holland and SAF, and Holland loses to Australia, that gives each of us 3 wins in the group. That way, it comes down to how many goals scored I believe.

you are missing GB team in there and beating them was the most important game for Pakistani team. They have won two and lost one and they will probably win another one (Canada or South Africa - the one they have not played). Holland will probably lose to Australia. Holland-Pakistan match look tough even though I think this is a weak holland team. Holland beat England 1-0. So it can be a 3 way tie between Eng-Hol-Pak and Australia as the leader

I see Australia and GB or Holland going through

[DeSi_DoN]

Originally Posted by OZGOD This will be a huge game coming up between the Kookaburras and the Dutch.

Yeah, this game would probably be the most anticipated throughout the group matches, some futures depend on this game; Pakistan, Great Britain and ofcourse the Netherlands. I would be watching this game for sure, via the proxy thing lol .
Anyways, I've worked out what Pakistan needs to qualify with the qualifiers which are Australia;

1) I haven't read or heard anyone talking about the Great Britain vs Canada match today, if Canada pull off a surprise victory things can get easier for the Pakistani hockey team to qualify. This is how the tables would be if Pakistan win their next two matches against South Africa 'Comprehensively', and the Netherlands;
Great Britain has too lose to Australia in order to reflect this table.

Rnk Team GP W T L PF PA CLASS PTS
1. AUS 5 5 0 0 19 2 12
2. NED 5 3 0 2 10 2 9
3. PAK 5 3 0 2 6 8 9
4. GBR 5 2 0 3 6 3 6
5. CAN 5 2 0 3 4 13 6
6. RSA 5 0 0 5 0 17 0

This leaves Pakistan and the Netherlands at equal points, Pakistan should be able to qualify if Pakistan beats South Africa by a good score, perhaps beat them by around 4-5 goals or if not then beat Netherlands by a few goals as well which looks unlikely? So it's better off we play well against South Africa today and produce chances.

2) The second way is that, Great Britain, Netherlands and Pakistan share the same amount of points, Pakistan would be able to qualify if it beats South Africa by a good amount of goals, beat Netherlands by a one or a few goals and don't concede any goals against them, and finally Great Britain not beating Canada comprehensively will secure Pakistan a rank number 2 spot to go through, which am sure we all want ;)
Tables reflecting my views/predictions;

Rnk Team GP W T L PF PA CLASS PTS
1. AUS 5 5 0 0 19 2 12
2. NED 5 3 0 2 10 2 9
3. GBR 5 3 0 2 6 3 9
4. PAK 5 3 0 2 6 8 9
5. CAN 5 1 0 4 4 13 3
6. RSA 5 0 0 5 0 17 0

InshAllah Pakistan would be able to create some success!

[DeSi_DoN]

Canada 1 - 0 Great Britain!
2nd Half 22 mins remaining..

[DeSi_DoN]

Great Britain is out!
Great Britain 1-1 Canada
Canada played well compared to their game against Pakistan, they've got some talent in their team, bad luck for Canada some chances missed out and GBR scored their equaliser in the last minute when the match time was finished but because of a penalty corner which occured twice at that time GBR scored..
This is good news for the Pakistani fans in my opinion..

[OZGOD]

So what's the equation for Pakistan now? If we thrash the Dutch will it help you guys?

[DeSi_DoN]

Originally Posted by OZGOD So what's the equation for Pakistan now? If we thrash the Dutch will it help you guys?

Yeah, it definately will help because if you guys don't beat the Dutch we'll be out and you both teams would qualify, lol.
Will be based between Pakistan and Netherlands 'Points' if Pakistan manage to beat the Netherlands...

[iZeeshan]

Oh Canada you beauty!

12th Man, you are right, I had completely forgotten about GB but that concern is over.

Australia please do not let Holland score more then 1 goal. Or at least beat them by 2.

Let's beat South Africa by 5.

And beat Holland by 1.

[PlanetPakistan]

whats the average age of the Pakistani team? ...because if these boys are young then our hockey future isn't as dark as some people think it is.

[Muddaser]

Originally Posted by PlanetPakistan whats the average age of the Pakistani team? ...because if these boys are young then our hockey future isn't as dark as some people think it is.

Very young if you ask me.

Akbar Salman - Jan 03 1982
IMRAN Muhammad - Jan 12 1979
WAQAS Muhammad - Sep 03 1988
ATEEQ Muhammad - Sep 09 1989
BILGRAMI Syed Abbas Haider - Oct 26 1989
KHAN Shabbir Ahmed - Jun 20 1986
MAQSOOD Adnan - Jan 12 1979
WARSI Syed Imran Ali - Jun 05 1985
RANA Muhammad Asif - Apr 20 1985
SAQLAIN Muhammad - Feb 23 1978
AHMED Nasir - Nov 07 1984
ASHRAF Zeeshan - Feb 28 1977
JAVED Muhammad - Aug 14 1982
AKBAR Waqas - Nov 26 1988
ABBASI Shakeel - Jan 05 1984
RASOOL Shafqat Dec 10 1988
ZUBAIR Muhammad Forward Oct 12 1988
BUTT Rehan Jul 06 1980

http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/EN.../9991312.shtml

[PlanetPakistan]

Thanks Muddaser.

Not a hockey expert here but it seems that these boys are very skillful and if they stick with this set of players and keep politics out of hockey then we should have an excellent team by the 2010 world cup.

[Saj]

guys when is our next game ?

[iZeeshan]

Its supposed to start any minute now...

[Obeid]

hmmm we have any chance of advancing? zeeshan come online

[iZeeshan]

Well, we gotta get scoring...

[Obeid]

Watching this team this olympics and ive noticed were not good finishers....and just as i speak pakistan scores!!!!!!!!!!

[iZeeshan]

Just as I speak, SCORE!

Pak 1 RSA 0

[Obeid]

1-1...wow

[faizpak]

Live streaming on http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/olympics/ CHANNEL 8

Enjoy!

[iZeeshan]

This is really bad.

Just 1-1 after the half.

We have to score AT LEAST 4 goals next half, and not let them score any to advance.

[faizpak]

Live streaming on http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/olympics/ CHANNEL 8

Enjoy!

[Hash]

so what was the full time score?

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by Hash so what was the full time score?

3-1 Pak.

[iZeeshan]

We're pretty much out now.

Unless Aus beats Netherlands 4-0, and we beat Netherlands 2-0.

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by iZeeshan We're pretty much out now. Unless Aus beats Netherlands 4-0, and we beat Netherlands 2-0.

Wouldn't Pak go through if Holland and Pak end on equal points since it means we would have beaten Holland?

[iZeeshan]

Hmm, I don;t know. Never thought of it like that.

[PakPassionate]

[PakPassionate]

Originally Posted by Xoib Wouldn't Pak go through if Holland and Pak end on equal points since it means we would have beaten Holland?

Goal Average

[iZeeshan]

Which is?

[faisalm]

The difference between the goals scored and conceded.
Holland has +8
Pakistan has 0

When a team scores, + 1 to the GD
When a team concedes, -1 to the GD

So Pakistan need a 4 goal win if Holland lose by 1 to Australia. As Holland GD would be +7, while Pakistan GD would be 0. They need 4 because for every goal Pakistan scores against Holland, there is a 2 point swing (+1 for Pakistan GD, - 1 for Holland GD).

[iZeeshan]

I see. Unless of course, Australia, THRASHES Holland like 6-0.

If only we scored more against SAF!

[12thMan]

Germany-Spain has started. 20 minuted later it will be Australia-Holland

Dissapointing 3-1 win over SA. Australia beat them 10-0 so Pakistan should have atleast scored 5 goals but they just cannot finish

[pakistanbest]

whats the latest on the Aussie-Dutch match?

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by PakPassionate Goal Average

meh, so we are virtually out.

[Boi]

http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/olympics/

hockey on live 05


Germany v Spain

[Boi]

1-0 to Germany!

[iZeeshan]

We're officially out now.

Aus and Ned tied 2-2

[Xoib]

Originally Posted by iZeeshan We're officially out now. Aus and Ned tied 2-2

Massive disappointment! always new the loss to GB will come back to bite us.

[DeSi_DoN]

Yeah, unfortunately Pakistan are out, well let's try to get a good place in the 5-12's for less disappointment..

[12thMan]

Germany wins 1-0 against Spain and keep themselves alive. Now the group A is open for the 4 teams Spain, Germany, South Korea, New Zealand. They play against each other in 2 days.

[pakistanbest]

very sad to hear that news, Insh'Allah Pakistan can claim the 5ht position

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by pakistanbest very sad to hear that news, Insh'Allah Pakistan can claim the 5ht position

for that Pakistan has to beat Holland. Right now it looks like they will play for 7-8 position

[pakistanbest]

with Holland qualifying, they may just be a bit laid back approach from them and just maybe Pakistan can take advantage and gain victory Insh'Allah

[DeSi_DoN]

Originally Posted by pakistanbest with Holland qualifying, they may just be a bit laid back approach from them and just maybe Pakistan can take advantage and gain victory Insh'Allah

To be honest, I have lost all hopes on Pakistan sports. This can only improve if Pakistani boards invest more and too support that the Pakistani Government needs to establish itself which is unlikely at the moment, it will take atleast 2-3 years..

[12thMan]

GEO News finally got it right . I saw two reports earlier today of the Pak-SA hockey match and they were showing the clip of the match against GB. The latest clip finally had SA team playing

[12thMan]

today Pakistan plays Holland at a decent time. 8:30 pm EST (USA)

[12thMan]

Pakistan leading holland 1-0 after 30 min of 1st half
pakistan wearing all green today and sleeveless. They mean business

[12thMan]

From Pakistan I saw atleast two saves which were sure golas

[12thMan]

Holland scores in 6th minute of 2nd half.
1-1 now

[12thMan]

Ball out of pakistan half

[12thMan]

Holland scores on penalty corner. they were lucky as ball went up and there were only one defender and golakeeper in the area and ball was going into the goal. No headbut tried by the defender there
2-1 to Holland - 22 min left

[12thMan]

javaid gets a greecard because he wanted to hug a holland player and Holland misses a simple chance

[12thMan]

Sub kay sub hakka bakka reh gaye
Holland wins 4-2
lets see if they accept the after match challenge and play another half

[PlanetPakistan]

well thats very poor from PAK

[PakPassionate]

Yaar GEO SUPER said they will show live match pak v holland but they are not showing why is that/?

[faisalm]

Originally Posted by PakPassionate Yaar GEO SUPER said they will show live match pak v holland but they are not showing why is that/?

It's already over, Pakistan lost 4-2.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by PakPassionate Yaar GEO SUPER said they will show live match pak v holland but they are not showing why is that/?

on the Pakistan hockey website there is an article saying that Pak-Aus was not shown live but instead they showed Tennis and soccer?? even though GEO had said all Paksitan hockey games will be live

[SameerM]

We would have won, if the Pak team had watched ShaRukh and 'Chuk De India' movie before the matches

[PlanetPakistan]

PAK is currently playing NZ for the 7th place

[PlanetPakistan]

NZ lead 1 nil

[PlanetPakistan]

NZ score again....this is not good for PAK

[PlanetPakistan]

NZ have decided to score again

3 nil now

[PlanetPakistan]

PAk score

3-1 now

[b0wld]

Pak looses 4-2 to NZ and finishes the Olympics campaign at 8th position... off with their HEADS and THONGS

[Mohsin]

In any case, Pakistan has never before ended at any place below sixth at the Olympic Games level. Beijing will be the lowest point in the country’s hockey history in this mega competition. The only consolation with which they might take the field today is that New Zealand have never defeated Pakistan in a hockey match in an Olympiad! Of the six matches since Melbourne 1956, Pakistan have won five while one ended in a draw.

Also


Whether it be cricket or hockey or whatever, it seems all our records are being broken!

Bloody millennium bug!

[12thMan]

I missed the matches but some surprises in Men's semi-finals:

Netherlands 1-1 Germany (Germany win 4-3 on pens)

Spain 3-2 Australia

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Saturday 23 August

Men's Bronze medal match: 11 am UK time
Netherlands v Australia

Men's Gold medal match: 1:30 pm UK time
Spain v Germany

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somehow Chinese women's team have made the women's final by defeating Germany